Season Tickets 2020-21

[Ossydave]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

well when the government wont let you what can you do? 

 

 

Nowt. 

It wasn't a negative comment towards the club chaddy don't fret.

[chaddyrovers]

Just now, Ossydave said:

Nowt. 

It wasn't a negative comment towards the club chaddy don't fret.

I wasn't having a go, I was disappointed we couldn't hold a pilot scheme as it would have been good for the club, fans and players. 

I can understand why the government is being over cautious. 

 

[Ossydave]

53 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I wasn't having a go, I was disappointed we couldn't hold a pilot scheme as it would have been good for the club, fans and players. 

I can understand why the government is being over cautious. 

 

Well I was thinking earlier and realised barely anything i was doing in March has now returned to a true normal, so it would be incredibly optimistic to think football will for quite some time yet ?

Work - still nowhere near normality, haven't been in the office since early March, now told no return expected till January.

Pub - ok so this has been bearable for the most part, for now, but still miles from true normality

Gym - again bearable,  just lots of wiping with alcohol spray etc

Even if these pilot games go ok i think the local infection rates would mean we're excluded from admitting fans for some time, I think January would be optimistic sadly now, and even then it's not gonna be the football we knew. All rather depressing when its been part of of lives for so many years.

[chaddyrovers]

14 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

Well I was thinking earlier and realised barely anything i was doing in March has now returned to a true normal, so it would be incredibly optimistic to think football will for quite some time yet ?

Work - still nowhere near normality, haven't been in the office since early March, now told no return expected till January.

Pub - ok so this has been bearable for the most part, for now, but still miles from true normality

Gym - again bearable,  just lots of wiping with alcohol spray etc

Even if these pilot games go ok i think the local infection rates would mean we're excluded from admitting fans for some time, I think January would be optimistic sadly now, and even then it's not gonna be the football we knew. All rather depressing when its been part of of lives for so many years.

It's good points bout Gyms, work and pubs. I've havent been in work since Mid April. Been furlough. Looks like I will be made redundant next Wednesday. 

Been in pubs and restaurants. The only difference is not being allow to go bar and stand there. order by app in most restaurants I've been in. 

Blackburn isnt in the top 5 of the number of total cases in the last 7 days. I've seen data that say only 61 total cases. Worst areas are Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds, Bradford and Manchester(I think). 

[Parsonblue]

51 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

It's good points bout Gyms, work and pubs. I've havent been in work since Mid April. Been furlough. Looks like I will be made redundant next Wednesday. 

Been in pubs and restaurants. The only difference is not being allow to go bar and stand there. order by app in most restaurants I've been in. 

Blackburn isnt in the top 5 of the number of total cases in the last 7 days. I've seen data that say only 61 total cases. Worst areas are Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds, Bradford and Manchester(I think). 

Sorry to hear your news about possible redundancy, hopefully it doesn't happen. 

The figures aren't looking good for Blackburn chaddy.  Latest I saw, today, for September 7-13 show 180 new cases which is an increase of 80 and our rate is now 120 in 100,000 whilst the average in the UK is 18.  

If this continues upward - and there is no suggestion it won't - I suspect it may be some time before the government allow fans back into Ewood Park.  Personally, I'm increasingly doubtful that fans will be allowed back into the stadium before next spring.

[DeeCee]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

It's good points bout Gyms, work and pubs. I've havent been in work since Mid April. Been furlough. Looks like I will be made redundant next Wednesday. 

Been in pubs and restaurants. The only difference is not being allow to go bar and stand there. order by app in most restaurants I've been in. 

Blackburn isnt in the top 5 of the number of total cases in the last 7 days. I've seen data that say only 61 total cases. Worst areas are Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds, Bradford and Manchester(I think). 

Bolton top of the list

[Paul]

23 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

For anyone who hasn't seen, this is the code of conduct for attending matches...

• Sounds like a right hassle to be honest, I think i'm out for the foreseeable.

Can I ask why it's a hassle? Celebrating and singing aside all of these points we are being asked to accept in our day to day lives. None of it surprises me though I was surprised, and pleased, to see the club issue a Code of Conduct.

[MarkBRFC]

1 hour ago, Paul said:

 Can I ask why it's a hassle? Celebrating and singing aside all of these points we are being asked to accept in our day to day lives. None of it surprises me though I was surprised, and pleased, to see the club issue a Code of Conduct.

I understand the code of conduct has to be in place obviously.

For me though, I'm not that desperate to go back under these conditions. It's a 100 mile round trip for me, one that I have been doing since the late 80's.

A huge part of the day is mingling with mates I don't see in everyday life, sometimes opposition fans, having a couple of beers in the nearby pubs or going to the strikers lounge with my lad (which is closed for the foreseeable). Get in the ground, have a bit of a sing song and have a good celebrate when we score or win.

Travelling 50 miles to be told when I have to enter the ground, when I have to leave, not be able to sit with mates, not to chant or sing, or celebrate when we score is just not for me.

I get for you that you are local, and its probably just about going and watching the football and then going home, for me I might as well just pay the £10 on ifollow and save myself a few hours travel where I can be doing other things. The matchday experience will be exactly the same.

On top of all that, my seat in the Riverside has gone up by £80 from last season.

 

Edited September 17, 2020 by MarkBRFC

[Paul]

29 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

I understand the code of conduct has to be in place obviously.

For me though, I'm not that desperate to go back under these conditions. It's a 100 mile round trip for me, one that I have been doing since the late 80's.

A huge part of the day is mingling with mates I don't see in everyday life, sometimes opposition fans, having a couple of beers in the nearby pubs or going to the strikers lounge with my lad (which is closed for the foreseeable). Get in the ground, have a bit of a sing song and have a good celebrate when we score or win.

Travelling 50 miles to be told when I have to enter the ground, when I have to leave, not be able to sit with mates, not to chant or sing, or celebrate when we score is just not for me.

I get for you that you are local, and its probably just about going and watching the football and then going home, for me I might as well just pay the £10 on ifollow and save myself a few hours travel where I can be doing other things. The matchday experience will be exactly the same.

On top of all that, my seat in the Riverside has gone up by £80 from last season.

 

Ah that makes perfect sense. I didn't realise you had the journey etc. Yes, for us it is go to Ewood, watch the game, perhaps bump in to a few friends and go home.

[Parsonblue]

51 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

I understand the code of conduct has to be in place obviously.

For me though, I'm not that desperate to go back under these conditions. It's a 100 mile round trip for me, one that I have been doing since the late 80's.

A huge part of the day is mingling with mates I don't see in everyday life, sometimes opposition fans, having a couple of beers in the nearby pubs or going to the strikers lounge with my lad (which is closed for the foreseeable). Get in the ground, have a bit of a sing song and have a good celebrate when we score or win.

Travelling 50 miles to be told when I have to enter the ground, when I have to leave, not be able to sit with mates, not to chant or sing, or celebrate when we score is just not for me.

I get for you that you are local, and its probably just about going and watching the football and then going home, for me I might as well just pay the £10 on ifollow and save myself a few hours travel where I can be doing other things. The matchday experience will be exactly the same.

On top of all that, my seat in the Riverside has gone up by £80 from last season.

 

Perfectly understandable why you wouldn't want to come to Ewood having to travel those sort of distances.  As you say, the matchday experience for many supporters will be very different from what we are used to.  I meet up with friends who I sit with but, as we aren't in the same bubble, that will not be possible.  I suspect iFollow will be how most supporters watch Rovers this season as I can't see us getting anywhere near back to normal before the start of the 21-22 season.

[A Northern Horde...]

By God it sounds like a lot of hassle to watch a Football Match..and then slap a price increase on top  BOOM!!

I'm out personally until matters return to a normality.

[chaddyrovers]

 

[K-Hod]

21 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

[Tom]

30 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

[Dreams of 1995]

14 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

 

I was more thinking this with Waggot's pricing structure........................

 

[arbitro]

As a group of six friends and family none of us are renewing. Whilst there are some reasons which Rovers have no control over uppermost in at least four of the group is the price increase particularly after a big increase only two seasons ago. Waggotts belligerence and lack of understanding is going to hit Rovers hard.

[Mattyblue]

I expect out of those fans that can generally ‘take it or leave it’ and just go out of habit and for a bit of socialising will be knocking it on the head in big numbers.

But if whole groups that are as Rovers mad as I imagine your lot are, aren’t renewing too, then we are in big trouble.

 

Edited September 17, 2020 by Mattyblue

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

#WeAreTogether

#WeAreTooSkint

[Miller11]

The club have written an open letter “to a number of leading local MPs”

 

 The last six months have presented unprecedented challenges of unparalleled levels, the likes of which this great football club has never encountered before in its proud 145-year history.

Our revenue streams have been decimated and our hard losses could have a crippling effect on the financial future of the club.

Throughout this period, our Owners have continued to be as supportive as they can be, whilst their own business battles with the issues created by the global pandemic.
Whilst the world that we are living in at present is shrouded in uncertainty, one thing remains clear ... football is nothing without its fans.
The last time we had supporters inside the stadium – and generated any matchday income – was when Swansea City visited Ewood Park in late February.

For generations, Blackburn Rovers has been the heartbeat of the local community. It cannot be stressed enough how important fans attending games is to the local economy, through direct employment of local people, supporting the local supply chain and providing much needed revenues across a number of businesses in the local area.

And during these troubled times, watching live sport can provide relief, enjoyment and entertainment to so many. The ability for supporters to attend games will provide a much- needed outlet for all the stress our supporters are facing in their own lives.
Over recent weeks and months, the club has undertaken a tremendous amount of work behind the scenes, with government agencies, the local authorities and football bodies amongst others, to put comprehensive plans and procedures in place to ensure the safe return of players and staff, for games to be played behind closed doors, and we are contacting you today to ask for your crucial support as we seek to bring supporters back to the stadium.

It goes without saying, the health and wellbeing of the public when attending matches is our absolute priority and we will be guided by the Government and relevant authorities with regards to revised stadium capacity and stringent social distancing guidelines, in the hope that the stadium can be permitted to operate on a reduced capacity basis in compliance with all the advice received.
Detailed operational protocols have already been implemented at football stadiums across the country by experienced crowd safety professionals, in order to prepare grounds for the safe return of crowds, with successful ‘pilot’ events having been held across the sporting sector throughout September.

With your support, we therefore urge the Government to give the green light to the return of crowds from the beginning of October, as originally planned.

Failure to do so, or to at least provide any credible roadmap back to the return of fans in the near future, could have catastrophic consequences for many football clubs, like ourselves, and the communities they represent.
Football is facing an impending financial crisis as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. A reasonable resolution must be reached at the earliest opportunity to avoid unimaginable outcomes.

Therefore, we write to you for your public support for the safe return of fans to Ewood Park as we move forward.

 

 

 

The paragraph in bold really annoys me. They haven’t given a shit about the local community for the last 10 years. They’ve also ignored countless open letters and direct correspondence from the very people they are now appealing to.

[arbitro]

4 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

The club have written an open letter “to a number of leading local MPs”

 

 The last six months have presented unprecedented challenges of unparalleled levels, the likes of which this great football club has never encountered before in its proud 145-year history.

Our revenue streams have been decimated and our hard losses could have a crippling effect on the financial future of the club.

Throughout this period, our Owners have continued to be as supportive as they can be, whilst their own business battles with the issues created by the global pandemic.
Whilst the world that we are living in at present is shrouded in uncertainty, one thing remains clear ... football is nothing without its fans.
The last time we had supporters inside the stadium – and generated any matchday income – was when Swansea City visited Ewood Park in late February.

For generations, Blackburn Rovers has been the heartbeat of the local community. It cannot be stressed enough how important fans attending games is to the local economy, through direct employment of local people, supporting the local supply chain and providing much needed revenues across a number of businesses in the local area.

And during these troubled times, watching live sport can provide relief, enjoyment and entertainment to so many. The ability for supporters to attend games will provide a much- needed outlet for all the stress our supporters are facing in their own lives.
Over recent weeks and months, the club has undertaken a tremendous amount of work behind the scenes, with government agencies, the local authorities and football bodies amongst others, to put comprehensive plans and procedures in place to ensure the safe return of players and staff, for games to be played behind closed doors, and we are contacting you today to ask for your crucial support as we seek to bring supporters back to the stadium.

It goes without saying, the health and wellbeing of the public when attending matches is our absolute priority and we will be guided by the Government and relevant authorities with regards to revised stadium capacity and stringent social distancing guidelines, in the hope that the stadium can be permitted to operate on a reduced capacity basis in compliance with all the advice received.
Detailed operational protocols have already been implemented at football stadiums across the country by experienced crowd safety professionals, in order to prepare grounds for the safe return of crowds, with successful ‘pilot’ events having been held across the sporting sector throughout September.

With your support, we therefore urge the Government to give the green light to the return of crowds from the beginning of October, as originally planned.

Failure to do so, or to at least provide any credible roadmap back to the return of fans in the near future, could have catastrophic consequences for many football clubs, like ourselves, and the communities they represent.
Football is facing an impending financial crisis as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. A reasonable resolution must be reached at the earliest opportunity to avoid unimaginable outcomes.

Therefore, we write to you for your public support for the safe return of fans to Ewood Park as we move forward.

 

 

 

The paragraph in bold really annoys me. They haven’t given a shit about the local community for the last 10 years. They’ve also ignored countless open letters and direct correspondence from the very people they are now appealing to.

And in that decade of decay local businesses have seen their income drop hugely as the home and away support has diminished. Also in the decade of decay Rovers have laid off lots of staff or vastly reduced numbers. It almost reads like Venkys have reduced their financial input to a trickle.

[Dreams of 1995]

They didn't give a flying shite when approx 5,000 started boycotting in the early days. Ignored it all completely. Since they have taken over there's been plenty of business closures around Ewood that relied on the bigger match day attendances (Ewood Arms and Aqueduct) but they didn't care then.

They don't care about the community because look at the filthy state of the stadium.

Time for an open letter from ourselves that demands the changes we have been crying out for for 10 years? I suspect that will be filed with the remaining dozen or so letters penned to our custodians - the bin.

Isn't it funny how a club message never ever fails to praise the "Owners" for "their continued support". F*ck off, it's your job as the owner of a business to support it.

Every piece of correspondence the club gives out alienates me further from them. It's why in later years I've tried my best to treat Rovers as a squad and not as a club. I follow the manager and the players, what happens to Waggots and Venkys bank balance is none of my concern, because I would continue to follow Rovers even if we had to start all over again. 

The funny thing is more Rovers fans would be prepared to generate income for Rovers if Waggot hadn't behaved in the way he had. He's clearly annoyed a lot of people, but rather than address those issues he gives some other heartfelt plea for help.

When they came they always promised to respect Uncle Jack's legacy. Never, ever, ever forget that line when considering listening to a heart felt plea from the owners / directors of this club because they never once respected the legacy of this club, and continue to treat it with utter disdain, despite the fact they pay the electric bill. 

 

Edited September 17, 2020 by Dreams of 1995

[phili]

What we should have done is admit that fans in large numbers will not  likely to be in the stadium until January so we should have based prices on these assumptions..

Season tickets should have been £199 with a free IFollow season pass, if we get fans in the ground before Jan so be it. The Away Ifollow pass should have also been half price for the season to ensure fans keep watching and stay in a habit of watching.

Doing the above we would have generated about the same income, reinvigorated fans, kept the watching habit going and people would not be as furious as they are now, infact we would probably have a lot of positive press, happy fan base etc. For Venky's could have shown them in a good light too, all in this together and they want to help fans who are going through a very hard time.

My issue is that as soon as fans get used to not watching and out of the habit of attending they never return. We are going to be very lucky to get 3-4000 season ticket sales and to be honest that will be our new rate once all of this dies down, our once hard core fan base just won't be bothered attending.

[perthblue02]

1 hour ago, arbitro said:

And in that decade of decay local businesses have seen their income drop hugely as the home and away support has diminished. Also in the decade of decay Rovers have laid off lots of staff or vastly reduced numbers. It almost reads like Venkys have reduced their financial input to a trickle.

A Decade of Decay, a fantastic theme for the upcoming 10th anniversary celebrations of the V's takeover. 

Just need Swag to come out and tell supporters  to stop moaning and "get real" ,to get the party started

[barry_]

I wonder what the 'general' (not just on BRFCS) feeling is about the club's price increase/policy. 

Having been upset by the club (waggot) closing down the DE for home fans, the continued decision of the club (waggot) to have the DE closed is just too much for me. 

I look forward to seeing the minutes of the 'fans forum' but don't expect anything but (more) grovelling from the 'fans'. 

Edited September 17, 2020 by barry_

[JHRover]

2 hours ago, arbitro said:

As a group of six friends and family none of us are renewing. Whilst there are some reasons which Rovers have no control over uppermost in at least four of the group is the price increase particularly after a big increase only two seasons ago. Waggotts belligerence and lack of understanding is going to hit Rovers hard.

Deeply concerning yet will Waggott and co. learn anything from it? I doubt it.

As it stands two of my three are unlikely to renew at this stage. This leaves me in a difficult position firstly because I don't want to go on my own and sit away from others and more importantly because I am very uncomfortable handing over £400 to fund Waggott's obscene salary with no guarantee of entry and have to pay an extra £200 to ensure I can go to the trial fixtures.

I've paid enough over the years and my database is close to 100% since 2010. I'm not being held to ransom.