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10 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

The most trophy laden club in the league (with Forest) are ‘unfashionable’, oh to be as prestigious as fecking Brentford...

Achievement and fashion are far from the same thing. I think the only time we have been remotely fashionable was a few years at the beginning of the 1990s. Many of us, including me, relish the fact that we're NOT fashionable.

I suspect that there is a pretty good chance that we will feature more prominently on Quest in our next two Saturday games.

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3 minutes ago, only2garners said:

Achievement and fashion are far from the same thing. I think the only time we have been remotely fashionable was a few years at the beginning of the 1990s. Many of us, including me, relish the fact that we're NOT fashionable.

I suspect that there is a pretty good chance that we will feature more prominently on Quest in our next two Saturday games.

I’m not arsed, our history and traditions speak for themselves, just think we’ve gone through the looking glass when the likes of Reading and Brentford are deemed ‘fashionable’.

With the league now without the likes of ‘glamorous’ Leeds and Villa, even taking away being the joint biggest historical achievers in the league, on the present day pitch we are the highest goalscorers in the division with the top scorer in AA, if that still doesn’t make you ‘attractive’ to broadcasters, what does?

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3 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Moved due to Doncaster races, from memory. 

Actually it was moved due to the national Jet Skiing championships that were taking place on the artificial Lake adjacent to their stadium on the Saturday. Has to go down as the most random reason a Rovers game has had to be brought forward.

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It is an interesting concept is 'fashion' in football. What or who decides which clubs are fashionable or not?

Is it location, style of play, success?

I mean Spurs have always been promoted by the London media as a fashionable club, which seems to be based upon playing nice football and winning some cups 40 odd years ago. Yet today they remain 'fashionable' despite winning nowt, spending most of the PL era floating around in mid table and being based in one of the least fashionable and most deprived areas of the country. West Ham fall into this category despite Upton Park being one of the least pleasant places you could ever go to.

The likes of Fulham and QPR have always attracted romantic and positive press for being fashionable little clubs by virtue of their locations in West London and particularly Fulham with their romantic little ground by the Thames yet neither have won anything of significance in the game.

Just down the road Millwall and Charlton have at least matched if not bettered the above clubs achievements and yet have never been treated with the same level of positive press, presumably because they are in less nice neighbourhoods.

Swansea are another lot as are Bournemouth that are now perceived as being fashionable clubs purely due to deploying an easy on the eye style of play in recent years yet 20 years ago both were 4th division fodder.

'Up North' the only qualification appears to be winning trophies. Man City, Man Utd and Liverpool deemed fashionable due to the immense trophy hauls they have had yet not sure what is fashionable about Salford, East Manchester or the back streets of Liverpool. All are similarly deprived and unpleasant in parts as Blackburn, Preston and Burnley yet are perceived as being very different.

Very peculiar stuff but such is the power of the media in generating and maintaining these perceptions.

I do think we as a club could do more to smarten up our image - this starts with making Ewood a nicer place to be.

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10 hours ago, JHRover said:

It's interesting because after our goal laden start to the season and unpredictability on results along with possessing the top scorer in the League you'd think we'd be ripe for the picking for the selectors down at Sky HQ, on the look out for 'entertainers' to broadcast.

Seems nonentities like Reading and Brentford get that honour although no surprises on location and London-centric attitudes.

There's a vacuum to be filled with Leeds exiting the division and no Villa/Newcastle coming down so it seems they've adopted a new policy. Doesn't bother me just hope Rovers are kicking up a stink about the hundreds of thousands of pounds in extra money the likes of Brentford will presumably be getting for all this.

Sky really don't give a sh*t about Rovers. At all.

I remember they did a little video montage once, which showed all the Premier League winning teams, apart from us.

There's only 7 bloody teams that have won it. Liverpool hadn't even won it by this point, so 6.

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2 hours ago, JHRover said:

'Up North' the only qualification appears to be winning trophies. Man City, Man Utd and Liverpool deemed fashionable due to the immense trophy hauls they have had yet not sure what is fashionable about Salford, East Manchester or the back streets of Liverpool. All are similarly deprived and unpleasant in parts as Blackburn, Preston and Burnley yet are perceived as being very different.

I can see Old Trafford from my window. Salford Quays is very nice I'll have you know!

Even nicer when United lose and I can watch all the glum faces trudging past from my balcony.

2 hours ago, davulsukur said:

Sky really don't give a sh*t about Rovers. At all.

I remember they did a little video montage once, which showed all the Premier League winning teams, apart from us.

There's only 7 bloody teams that have won it. Liverpool hadn't even won it by this point, so 6.

On Sky they have a show called Premier League Years, each has a cover image. Invariably it is the team celebrating the league win or their star player, the year Leicester won the show even has the subtitle "Leicester's Year"...

94/95... Picture of Matt Le Tissier celebrating his lob at Ewood. Sums up what Sky think of Rovers perfectly.

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44 minutes ago, XLM said:

I can see Old Trafford from my window. Salford Quays is very nice I'll have you know!

Even nicer when United lose and I can watch all the glum faces trudging past from my balcony.

On Sky they have a show called Premier League Years, each has a cover image. Invariably it is the team celebrating the league win or their star player, the year Leicester won the show even has the subtitle "Leicester's Year"...

94/95... Picture of Matt Le Tissier celebrating his lob at Ewood. Sums up what Sky think of Rovers perfectly.

Sky don't like us,

We don't care.

Top tip, don't subscribe to sky, and it all goes away.

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3 hours ago, JHRover said:

It is an interesting concept is 'fashion' in football. What or who decides which clubs are fashionable or not?

Is it location, style of play, success?

I mean Spurs have always been promoted by the London media as a fashionable club, which seems to be based upon playing nice football and winning some cups 40 odd years ago. Yet today they remain 'fashionable' despite winning nowt, spending most of the PL era floating around in mid table and being based in one of the least fashionable and most deprived areas of the country. West Ham fall into this category despite Upton Park being one of the least pleasant places you could ever go to.

The likes of Fulham and QPR have always attracted romantic and positive press for being fashionable little clubs by virtue of their locations in West London and particularly Fulham with their romantic little ground by the Thames yet neither have won anything of significance in the game.

Just down the road Millwall and Charlton have at least matched if not bettered the above clubs achievements and yet have never been treated with the same level of positive press, presumably because they are in less nice neighbourhoods.

Swansea are another lot as are Bournemouth that are now perceived as being fashionable clubs purely due to deploying an easy on the eye style of play in recent years yet 20 years ago both were 4th division fodder.

'Up North' the only qualification appears to be winning trophies. Man City, Man Utd and Liverpool deemed fashionable due to the immense trophy hauls they have had yet not sure what is fashionable about Salford, East Manchester or the back streets of Liverpool. All are similarly deprived and unpleasant in parts as Blackburn, Preston and Burnley yet are perceived as being very different.

Very peculiar stuff but such is the power of the media in generating and maintaining these perceptions.

I do think we as a club could do more to smarten up our image - this starts with making Ewood a nicer place to be.

Some good points but I always thought Sky chose their games through number of subscriptions in the area of the club?

Hence why city teams more likely than smaller towns, and also why Leeds played every week on Sky every week when in a lower division 

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1 hour ago, XLM said:

I can see Old Trafford from my window. Salford Quays is very nice I'll have you know!

Even nicer when United lose and I can watch all the glum faces trudging past from my balcony.

On Sky they have a show called Premier League Years, each has a cover image. Invariably it is the team celebrating the league win or their star player, the year Leicester won the show even has the subtitle "Leicester's Year"...

94/95... Picture of Matt Le Tissier celebrating his lob at Ewood. Sums up what Sky think of Rovers perfectly.

I remember working on a job at a rubber factory in Salford a few years ago. We'd stopped in a local boozer for a couple of pints and a pie because we'd worked while about 9-00 pm. When we went to leave the landlord insisted on escorting us to our works van - " Just in case lads, I wouldn't want you to get into any bother ! "

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13 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I remember working on a job at a rubber factory in Salford a few years ago. We'd stopped in a local boozer for a couple of pints and a pie because we'd worked while about 9-00 pm. When we went to leave the landlord insisted on escorting us to our works van - " Just in case lads, I wouldn't want you to get into any bother ! "

When I'd just moved here after I left Uni, we played United at Old Trafford on New Year's Eve I think it was (or around then), the game was on Sky and a couple of mates and I went looking for a pub that was showing the game. We ended up in a little place not far away called The Broadway. It was the game where we won 3-2, Yakubu scored a penalty, Hanley got the winner from a corner and (I think) Jordan Slew made his debut (whatever happened to him?).

That was by far the roughest pub I've ever been in. A proper council estate community pub with United flags covering all the windows so there was no light (and no one could see what was happening in there!) and earless locals skinning up joints on the bar. Like a real world Shameless but not watered down for terrestrial TV. We somehow survived until the final whistle and left sharpish.

Someone was shot in there a week later and the place has since been knocked down.

 

... Still stand by it's nice on the Quays though!

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2 hours ago, XLM said:

I can see Old Trafford from my window. Salford Quays is very nice I'll have you know!

Even nicer when United lose and I can watch all the glum faces trudging past from my balcony.

On Sky they have a show called Premier League Years, each has a cover image. Invariably it is the team celebrating the league win or their star player, the year Leicester won the show even has the subtitle "Leicester's Year"...

94/95... Picture of Matt Le Tissier celebrating his lob at Ewood. Sums up what Sky think of Rovers perfectly.

If you live there you (and @JHRover) should know that Old Trafford is not and never has been in Salford!

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21 minutes ago, Blueandwhitemike said:

If you live there you (and @JHRover) should know that Old Trafford is not and never has been in Salford!

Aye, the demarcation is the Irwell. Can still see it from here and be there in a 10 min walk though - for better or for worse!

9 minutes ago, only2garners said:

He's at Morecambe. 18 appearances so far this season and just the one goal.

Surprised he's that high up the ladder. Think Henley might have made his debut in that game too and he at least looked a decent prospect.

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36 minutes ago, XLM said:

When I'd just moved here after I left Uni, we played United at Old Trafford on New Year's Eve I think it was (or around then), the game was on Sky and a couple of mates and I went looking for a pub that was showing the game. We ended up in a little place not far away called The Broadway. It was the game where we won 3-2, Yakubu scored a penalty, Hanley got the winner from a corner and (I think) Jordan Slew made his debut (whatever happened to him?).

That was by far the roughest pub I've ever been in. A proper council estate community pub with United flags covering all the windows so there was no light (and no one could see what was happening in there!) and earless locals skinning up joints on the bar. Like a real world Shameless but not watered down for terrestrial TV. We somehow survived until the final whistle and left sharpish.

Someone was shot in there a week later and the place has since been knocked down.

 

... Still stand by it's nice on the Quays though!

Sounds like the same place.

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