Championship Season 2020 - 2021

[bazza]

10 minutes ago, north_ender said:

Reports this evening that he will be leaving imminently. Good manager who has on the whole done a decent job. Apparently things have been a bit tense behind the scenes this season with multiple key players allowed to run their deals downed, who were then sold in January without adequate replacement. It has made things very difficult and Neil seems to have now given up.

He will go on to do well elsewhere but a parting of ways now feels like the right thing to do for all parties.

Hey. Do you fancy poaching Tony Mowbray from us. He's brilliant; just who you need.

[chaddyrovers]

12 minutes ago, north_ender said:

Reports this evening that he will be leaving imminently. Good manager who has on the whole done a decent job. Apparently things have been a bit tense behind the scenes this season with multiple key players allowed to run their deals downed, who were then sold in January without adequate replacement. It has made things very difficult and Neil seems to have now given up.

He will go on to do well elsewhere but a parting of ways now feels like the right thing to do for all parties.

Who will you look to replace him with? 

Who would you want? Any suggestions? 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Who will you look to replace him with? 

Who would you want? Any suggestions? 

Steve Bruce should be available pretty soon.

[47er]

1 hour ago, bazza said:

Hey. Do you fancy poaching Tony Mowbray from us. He's brilliant; just who you need.

Tony will shake things up for you. Your team has got too complacent, thinking that because they are a left-footed defender, that's where they'll play.

Tony will reinvigorate them with new challenges. Every week!

[north_ender]

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Who will you look to replace him with? 

Who would you want? Any suggestions? 

It sounds like they want to appoint a young upcoming coach as more of a head coach, with the club controlling transfers by investing more in recruitment staff and analysts. Like at Brentford or Barnsley.

Neil is a good coach but he has had tensions with the hierarchy about transfers throughout his tenure and is more of a 'win now' manager, whereas the club want to generally bring in younger players and bring them on.

He has hardly played Tom Bayliss, for example, who the club bought from Coventry, but experienced heads like Ched Evans or Cunningham are thrown straight into the side and trusted from the off.

The two parties are no longer on the same page. He will do well elsewhere and we will be capable of kicking on without him, but for everyone's sake he needs to be moved on with the club's best wishes.

Edited March 21, 2021 by north_ender

[darrenrover]

6 hours ago, bazza said:

Hey. Do you fancy poaching Tony Mowbray from us. He's brilliant; just who you need.

...and take his 2 chums with him!... Deepdale is brilliantly placed for either retail or residential development, I'm surprised 'Degsy shelf man' nor Trevor Hemmings ever considered it!

[darrenrover]

A Director of Nobend couldn't even get a number plate straight!

'Plastics'?.... Feck off, WE ARE The Rovers!!

[chaddyrovers]

7 hours ago, north_ender said:

It sounds like they want to appoint a young upcoming coach as more of a head coach, with the club controlling transfers by investing more in recruitment staff and analysts. Like at Brentford or Barnsley.

Neil is a good coach but he has had tensions with the hierarchy about transfers throughout his tenure and is more of a 'win now' manager, whereas the club want to generally bring in younger players and bring them on.

He has hardly played Tom Bayliss, for example, who the club bought from Coventry, but experienced heads like Ched Evans or Cunningham are thrown straight into the side and trusted from the off.

The two parties are no longer on the same page. He will do well elsewhere and we will be capable of kicking on without him, but for everyone's sake he needs to be moved on with the club's best wishes.

Thanks for reply. 

How has Bayliss been used since signing there and why did the club signed him if Neil didn't want him. You could have bought a striker with that money which you have lacked during his spell there

[Exiled in Toronto]

On 17/03/2021 at 09:33, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Low cost, high pressing: how Barnsley took the Championship by storm | Football | The Guardian

Lowest budget in the Championship. 

Interesting read. 

Fascinating read. Seems like the German manager was more the final piece of the jigsaw rather than the sole messiah. Proper owners who know what they are doing.

Mowbray bangs on about new trends in the game like being possession-based, data-based recruitment etc but is really just grandad pretending he knows how to reboot his wifi. Data-based recruitment at Barnsley means they have set rules which are followed whoever is the manager - the ex-owners son runs recruitment not some old duffer manager remembering someone who had a decent game against Coventry once.

As Gav often says on here, and I agree with him, we’re going nowhere with these owners.

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Just now, Exiled in Toronto said:

Mowbray bangs on about new trends in the game like being possession-based, data-based recruitment etc but is really just grandad pretending he knows how to reboot his wifi.

Ha, yeah, that's one way of putting it!

[chaddyrovers]

Alex Neil bas left Preston

 

 

[JacknOry]

15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Alex Neil bas left Preston

 

 

Did a good job overall, guess like with most clubs (not us though) things start to go stale after a while

[Tom]

Preston 2 points behind us, let’s see where we end up after them taking action 

[Blue blood]

26 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Alex Neil bas left Preston

 

 

Not my first choice to take over but doesn't play strikers at right back which is a start! 

Probably had Preston punching above their weight for a few seasons, especially given their resources. Success at Norwich too. So seems like a step up from TM in my book. 

[Ossydave]

Wilder seems a perfect fit for them next season, hope they don't get him mind!

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Neil had to sell his best players and had a smaller budget than us. I don't think we've finished above the since returning to the Championship. 

I'd swap him with Mowbray in a heartbeat. 

Edited March 21, 2021 by Hoochie Bloochie Mama

[Bigdoggsteel]

I wonder has Neils sacking got Mowbray sweating? Very close to home and Mowbray has had far more in his favour here 

Edited March 21, 2021 by Bigdoggsteel

[Rogerb]

Neil potted after one win in nine and who was that win over yes Tony it was you

[Stuart]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Alex Neil bas left Preston

 

 

Astonishing really. Don’t they know the rules?

Rovers have one win in 12 and “the club and owners still [have] every faith in his management” and at least one cheerleader pleading for “caution” in any decision. At least “morale remains high”.

And that while that one win Preston had in their last nine was against Huddersfield, their previous win, ten games ago? Yes, you guessed it, Neil out-witted Tony Mowbray.

[Richard Oakley]

Preston have 1 point from their last 15 available; Mowbray has 6. Vultures have been circling around Neil for some time. Mowbray's better at 'digging out' results and 'managing expectations'. I think Mowbray has now been found out.

[JacknOry]

45 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said:

Preston have 1 point from their last 15 available; Mowbray has 6. Vultures have been circling around Neil for some time. Mowbray's better at 'digging out' results and 'managing expectations'. I think Mowbray has now been found out.

But we didt lose our 3 best players...Tm has not had to sell anyone.

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

 

1 hour ago, Richard Oakley said:

Preston have 1 point from their last 15 available; Mowbray has 6. Vultures have been circling around Neil for some time. Mowbray's better at 'digging out' results and 'managing expectations'. 

Selective use of stats.

PNE have 4 pts from the last 6 games. We have 6 pts from the last 6 games.

PNE have 8pts from the last 10 games. We have 7pts from the last 10 games. 

They've won 2 in 12. We've won 1 in 12.

Neil's stats slightly better, with a far worse squad IMO. 

Mowbray is a very lucky man to still be in a job. Lucky to have idiots above him. 

[Richard Oakley]

2 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

 

Selective use of stats.

PNE have 4 pts from the last 6 games. We have 6 pts from the last 6 games.

PNE have 8pts from the last 10 games. We have 7pts from the last 10 games. 

They've won 2 in 12. We've won 1 in 12.

Neil's stats slightly better, with a far worse squad IMO. 

Mowbray is a very lucky man to still be in a job. Lucky to have idiots above him. 

You're using a different selection of stats. I was looking at the situation since the vultures circled. You are, I think, correct in saying Preston have a weaker squad. By all objective criteria Mowbray ought not still have a job.

[Hoochie Bloochie Mama]

Just now, Richard Oakley said:

You're using a different selection of stats. I was looking at the situation since the vultures circled. You are, I think, correct in saying Preston have a weaker squad. By all objective criteria Mowbray ought not still have a job.

Neil#s been under pressure for quite a while. It's not a last fortnight thing. 

[Richard Oakley]

2 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Neil#s been under pressure for quite a while. It's not a last fortnight thing. 

He had a couple of wins, which seemed to starve off the threat of the  sack. Then nothing (1 pt) That looked to have sealed his fate.