Let's Talk Tyrhys Dolan

[wilsdenrover]

4 minutes ago, J*B said:

Probably - they’re all equally as not good enough, just one is very small. 

Please don’t criticise a man for his size without getting the facts straight first…

[roversfan99]

23 minutes ago, J*B said:

Yeah, just none of the three we’ve got at the moment. I’d sell any of them except for Kaminski if we could get a decent fee. 

We need 2 senior keepers, like every other team.

[philipl]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

We need 2 senior keepers, like every other team.

Dolan is a bit small to be a keeper isn't he?

[Bohinen1983]

I was placing Pears in the Jason Steele category of keepers up until his stint this season. He's been tremendous.  Absolutely deserves the no1 jersey until he loses it.  What a turn around.  Well done, lad. Credit to yourself. 

 

[NeilInBristol]

https://youtu.be/jnf7fCZ3rDk

 

Just watching the highlights, he got in to a great position to have scored and most attacking players would have put that away especially considering how desperate we are to a) score a goal b) make the play offs. 

 

Watching his performance recently particularly live and as he has had more starts I have been wondering what is his best position?

 

He isn't an out and out striker.

 He isn't a traditional winger like Thomas who crosses in to the box..

Is he an attacking mf? Is he a no.10? Would he be better with an out and out striker to pass to?  Does he keep the ball too much because no one else is making the runs he requires so he ends up in a dead end?

 

 

[Wheelton Blue]

His effort and energy are endearing, but for a club with aspirations of promotion, Dolan shouldn't be anywhere near the first team.

[Mattyblue]

Mods - Maybe merge this with the Dolan thread already going (page 3)?

[Penwortham Blue]

1 hour ago, Wheelton Blue said:

His effort and energy are endearing, but for a club with aspirations of promotion, Dolan shouldn't be anywhere near the first team.

Agreed, bench player and that is where his best work has come from.

[toogs]

2 poor games - he’s shit. 
2 good games - he's great. 
Half a season scoring goals - he’s worth £25m in the current market (Diaz). 
4.5 seasons being poor to average - he’s not good enough - bench him, don’t care if he leaves. 

If Dolan’s decision making was better he wouldn’t be playing for us. 
 

If Dolan’s work rate and effort was worse, he wouldn’t be playing for us. 

Imo he’s still developing and I haven’t written him off. Some clearly have. 

[rigger]

1 minute ago, toogs said:

2 poor games - he’s shit. 
2 good games - he's great. 
Half a season scoring goals - he’s worth £25m in the current market (Diaz). 
4.5 seasons being poor to average - he’s not good enough - bench him, don’t care if he leaves. 

If Dolan’s decision making was better he wouldn’t be playing for us. 
 

If Dolan’s work rate and effort was worse, he wouldn’t be playing for us. 

Imo he’s still developing and I haven’t written him off. Some clearly have. 

I don't think anyone is writing Dolan off. The question was, where, in your opinions, is Dolans best position ? In some peoples opinions he is best coming off the bench. On your second player (Diaz), again I don't think most people are saying drop him because he isn't good enough, they are saying drop him because he is leaving our club and seems disintrested.

[Wheelton Blue]

13 minutes ago, toogs said:

2 poor games - he’s shit. 
2 good games - he's great. 
Half a season scoring goals - he’s worth £25m in the current market (Diaz). 
4.5 seasons being poor to average - he’s not good enough - bench him, don’t care if he leaves. 

If Dolan’s decision making was better he wouldn’t be playing for us. 
 

If Dolan’s work rate and effort was worse, he wouldn’t be playing for us. 

Imo he’s still developing and I haven’t written him off. Some clearly have. 

What's he 'developing' into?

[davulsukur]

He'd be a class 5 aside player.

[Exiled_Rover]

Utility attacking player from the bench to add energy for 20-30 minutes. Similar to Hedges, really.

[NeilInBristol]

1 hour ago, toogs said:

2 poor games - he’s shit. 
2 good games - he's great. 
Half a season scoring goals - he’s worth £25m in the current market (Diaz). 
4.5 seasons being poor to average - he’s not good enough - bench him, don’t care if he leaves. 

If Dolan’s decision making was better he wouldn’t be playing for us. 
 

If Dolan’s work rate and effort was worse, he wouldn’t be playing for us. 

Imo he’s still developing and I haven’t written him off. Some clearly have. 

I like this. 

Haven't written him off. Am curious on his best position. Think attacking cmf? He doesn't seem to have an eye for goal or that final shot so needs someone up top to pass to?

[philipl]

I like Dolan and he has undoubtedly improved a lot this season.

But that miss against Hull. 

I hope it doesn't join MGP's header against Chelsea in the horror moment Rovers memories

[Atko's Engine]

For those who have been sticking the boot into Dolan recently, I've just seen the highlights from yesterday.

Whilst I accept they are just that, he was responsible for winning the ball high up the pitch - with a right foot tackle - for our chance that was saved before Girona's 2nd goal, and then took in a ball from JRC perfectly in a backwards half turn - again with his right foot - and then straight away played a lovely weighted left footed pass through for Szmodics to run onto & cross to Leonard to score bravely.

He can be frustrating, but to say he has no right foot, no vision & no end product are just plain wrong.

To let him leave for nothing, or for peanuts, is a decision we'd almost certainly regret in time. Let's not be like the Nobbers eh?!

Edited July 30, 2023 by Atko's Engine

[rigger]

22 minutes ago, Atko's Engine said:

For those who have been sticking the boot into Dolan recently, I've just seen the highlights from yesterday.

Whilst I accept they are just that, he was responsible for winning the ball high up the pitch - with a right foot tackle - for our chance that was saved before Girona's 2nd goal, and then took in a ball from JRC perfectly in a backwards half turn - again with his right foot - and then straight away played a lovely weighted left footed pass through for Szmodics to run onto & cross to Leonard to score bravely.

He can be frustrating, but to say he has no right foot, no vision & no end product are just plain wrong.

To let him leave for nothing, or for peanuts, is a decision we'd almost certainly regret in time. Let's not be like the Nobbers eh?!

I think most people want to keep hold of Dolan ; I think he is a bench and cup player.

[Colt Seavers]

I think Dolan is useful to have around. He is still young and will get better. 

At the present time I see him as an impact sub to close down defenders and be a nuisance factor late on. Along with Pickering, Travis and Hedges, he is more suited to lower end Championship rather than a starter in a side looking for promotion.

[LeftWinger]

22 hours ago, Atko's Engine said:

He can be frustrating, but to say he has no right foot, no vision & no end product are just plain wrong.

To let him leave for nothing, or for peanuts, is a decision we'd almost certainly regret in time. Let's not be like the Nobbers eh?!

According to the BBC club top scorers page - he got 6 goals and 7 assists last season - so 13 goal contributions.

North End's top goal contributions were:

Evans - 10

Cannon - 9

Potts - 7

Riis - 5

Whiteman - 5

So pretty sure they'd have liked to have kept him.

We should definitely look to keep him.

 

[AllRoverAsia]

22 hours ago, Atko's Engine said:

For those who have been sticking the boot into Dolan recently, I've just seen the highlights from yesterday.

Whilst I accept they are just that, he was responsible for winning the ball high up the pitch - with a right foot tackle - for our chance that was saved before Girona's 2nd goal, and then took in a ball from JRC perfectly in a backwards half turn - again with his right foot - and then straight away played a lovely weighted left footed pass through for Szmodics to run onto & cross to Leonard to score bravely.

He can be frustrating, but to say he has no right foot, no vision & no end product are just plain wrong.

To let him leave for nothing, or for peanuts, is a decision we'd almost certainly regret in time. Let's not be like the Nobbers eh?!

Dolan's only good foot is his right foot.

Or am I looking at my TV through a mirror 

[Tom]

I’ve long been a defender of Dolan as felt he’s had some unfair criticism before but patience is wearing thin now.

I’m loathe to make assumptions but going off his Instagram he’s gone from a young lad desperate to succeed in the game to someone who is loving the footballer life style.

He got the England youth call up, got a goal but since then his stock has dropped massively and if he is hesitant to sign a new deal I’d question what advice he is getting as I’d be shocked if there is a better move in the offing than what he has here 

Needs to step up now 

[roversfan99]

Hes never been particularly good hence his inability to ever nail down a starting place. Problem is due to constant budget cuts, we need him to step up more than ever and he isnt capable.

[tomphil]

For now i'd be re acquainting him with the U 21s

I suspect there is interest in him from elsewhere and if once his agent change goes through they don't get him a good deal at Ewood he'll be off in Jan.

[DE.]

Has had some very unfair criticism in the past, but unfortunately this season it's warranted. He's not been good enough. 

[CambridgeRover]

Get him out, complete waste of space