Let's Talk Tyrhys Dolan

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

For me his biggest failing was always his decision making. He got too many wrong. Shooting when he should pass, passing when he should shoot. The spinning on the ball until he lost it etc. is it only me that thinks that aspect of his game has improved since Ismael arrived ?

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, arbitro said:

Is that £15k a basic wage or the maximum he can earn including bonuses?

It's not as simple as plucking a figure out of the air as contracts are complex and can be onerous.

With bonuses £15k could easily become £20k.

No. I would put him as one of our highest wage earner unless he wont stay 

[DE.]

Dolan is our second top goalscorer and assister, I think. Imagine he's there or thereabouts most seasons, as his stats are quite consistent. Certainly different to if we were losing someone like Hedges with 1 goal and 2 assists. 

[jim mk2]

There's alot of revisionism on Dolan here. He's a flawed player with an average scoring record and, like all players, is replaceable.  I'd rather he stayed but won't be shedding any tears if he goes.

[47er]

Contradict me if I'm wrong but is Dolan on the same money he was when Preston dumped him and we took him on?

In other words having played 200 games for us he's still being paid the same as when he was a teenager we took a gamble on.

In Jacks day contracts were routinely revised (upward!) to ensure loyalty, reward players doing well and to avoid them ever being out of contract. If Venkys had been in charge Shearer would have left for nothing!

He started on £950,000 a year but finished on much more. We lost him but at least Newcastle had to pay a then record transfer fee for him.

This lot have no idea how to run a football club.

 

 

[47er]

6 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

There's alot of revisionism on Dolan here. He's a flawed player with an average scoring record and, like all players, is replaceable.  I'd rather he stayed but won't be shedding any tears if he goes.

You will when you see his replacement!

[KentExile]

56 minutes ago, 47er said:

Contradict me if I'm wrong but is Dolan on the same money he was when Preston dumped him and we took him on?

In other words having played 200 games for us he's still being paid the same as when he was a teenager we took a gamble on.

In Jacks day contracts were routinely revised (upward!) to ensure loyalty, reward players doing well and to avoid them ever being out of contract. If Venkys had been in charge Shearer would have left for nothing!

He started on £950,000 a year but finished on much more. We lost him but at least Newcastle had to pay a then record transfer fee for him.

This lot have no idea how to run a football club.

 

 

Not quite 

He signed a contract with Rovers the summer of 2020 when Preston released him.  - This would have been on well under £1K/week wages as he was a signing for the U21s at the time

and another 6 months later after he had made several first team appearances for Rovers - which I would hazard a guess would have probably been in the region of an initial £4K - £5K/week

But nothing since that point (February 2021) which is criminal seeing as he has been a regular first team squad member since arriving almost 5 years ago

 

Edited 3 hours ago by KentExile

[Gav]

31 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

There's alot of revisionism on Dolan here. He's a flawed player with an average scoring record and, like all players, is replaceable.  I'd rather he stayed but won't be shedding any tears if he goes.

Most of it by you Jim looking back through this thread...🙄

Dolan is a very good player at this level, letting him walk is a disgrace, but not unexpected by these abhorent owners. We need a steady squad, we need players that know each other and would run through brick walls for the team, its more than just about a players individual ability for me, although that is important of course.

Transiant player recruitment isn't the answer for me.

 

[Mashed Potatoes]

26 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Not quite 

He signed a contract with Rovers the summer of 2020 when Preston released him.  - This would have been on well under £1K/week wages as he was a signing for the U21s at the time

and another 6 months later after he had made several first team appearances for Rovers - which I would hazard a guess would have probably been in the region of an initial £4K - £5K/week

But nothing since that point (February 2021) which is criminal seeing as he has been a regular first team squad member since arriving almost 5 years ago

 

But didn't the club open negotiations for a new contract early last year ?

[KentExile]

9 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

But didn't the club open negotiations for a new contract early last year ?

Apparently since at least the summer of 2023, and by all accounts offered very similar terms to what he is already on

Why would he commit to being tied down for longer on the same/very similar terms?  When he could easily get more than double that elsewhere

Edited 3 hours ago by KentExile

[Mashed Potatoes]

1 minute ago, KentExile said:

Apparently so, and by all accounts offered very similar terms to what he is already on

Why would he commit to being tied down for longer on the same/very similar terms?  When he could easily get more than double that elsewhere

By whose accounts exactly ?

[Mattyblue]

No revisionism from me, a decent Championship player, like he has been for years.

The only revisionism I can see is from those now tiptoeing away from their 'he's a League 1 player', 'he'll never play at this level again' statements.

[Wheelton Blue]

On his day, he's decent.

On his off days, he's poor.

So yeah, an average Championship player.