England

[K-Hod]

Two defensive mids. Against Albania.

Christ.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

4 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Two defensive mids. Against Albania.

Christ.

That was my first thought. Southgate’s not related to Mowbray is he ?

[Sparks Rover]

No idea England, Albania are better so far...

Nice header by Kane to be fair....

Edited March 28, 2021 by Sparks Rover

[jim mk2]

Are we managing to keep Albania out? 

[roversfan99]

Such a drab first half, I have to say our central midfield area is a major concern and possibly a big reason why our favourites for the Euros tag is a little premature, the likes of Kalvin Phillips and Declan Rice are ok, they are functional but little more, better teams will dominate the midfield against us.

Mount is a weird one, he is a good player but there should be some serious consideration about playing him deeper, question is does he have the discipline to play in a 2? He is better than the aforementioned players in that position, in the final third he is not at the same level for me as Foden, Grealish, even Maddison and we need 2 ideally from Sterling, Sancho, Rashford and Saka to run in behind Kane.

The team isnt balanced right either, Kane needs players running in behind and we dont have enough of that.

[jim mk2]

14 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Such a drab first half, I have to say our central midfield area is a major concern and possibly a big reason why our favourites for the Euros tag is a little premature

Why are England favourites and who made them favourites?

We've reached one (and won) major final in our entire history.

England will and always will be favourites to fail

[roversfan99]

25 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Why are England favourites and who made them favourites?

We've reached one (and won) major final in our entire history.

England will and always will be favourites to fail

Many bookmakers have us as favourites:

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/euro-2020/winner

[jim mk2]

5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Many bookmakers have us as favourites:

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/euro-2020/winner

An invitation to lose money. Do the opposite

[Tormund]

Could win it under a more positive manager.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Dull game. I could have played in goal for England tonight in my slippers.

[Darrenbot]

1 hour ago, jim mk2 said:

Why are England favourites and who made them favourites?

We've reached one (and won) major final in our entire history.

England will and always will be favourites to fail

Semi finals and final are at Wembley and all group games are there for us which help the odds but we have to get to the semi finals first to have it matter where they are.

[jim mk2]

5 minutes ago, Darrenbot said:

Semi finals and final are at Wembley and all group games are there for us which help the odds but we have to get to the semi finals first to have it matter where they are.

Didn't do us much good at Euro 96 - another one we "should" have won but screwed up again

[Darrenbot]

Just now, jim mk2 said:

Didn't do us much good at Euro 96 - another one we "should" have won but screwed up again

We got a great song out of it lol 

[Sparks Rover]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Many bookmakers have us as favourites:

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/euro-2020/winner

What does @Mercerbet say?

[chaddyrovers]

Why is Boothroyd not picked Eberechi Eze Conor or Gallagher or Dwight McNeil or Curtis or Max Aarons or Lloyd Kelly?

Edited March 28, 2021 by chaddyrovers

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, jim mk2 said:

Why are England favourites and who made them favourites?

We've reached one (and won) major final in our entire history.

England will and always will be favourites to fail

Cos we have a talent squad..

Looking at the Major countries who should be favourite then?

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Mount is a weird one, he is a good player but there should be some serious consideration about playing him deeper, question is does he have the discipline to play in a 2? He is better than the aforementioned players in that position, in the final third he is not at the same level for me as Foden, Grealish, even Maddison and we need 2 ideally from Sterling, Sancho, Rashford and Saka to run in behind Kane.

Coming around to my way of thinking about Mount playing the deeper midfield role with Rice. 

[Tormund]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Why is Boothroyd not picked Eberechi Eze Conor or Gallagher or Dwight McNeil or Curtis or Max Aarons or Lloyd Kelly?

Why is Boothroyd still manager for a start, that’s the question. 

[roversfan99]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Coming around to my way of thinking about Mount playing the deeper midfield role with Rice. 

Not sure he has the discipline though, nor would it be playing to his strengths.

Unfortunately I think the centre of midfield is a real problem position, and one that will be part of the reason why as much as there is reason for optimism and some good players, we wont win the Euros.

Struggling to look past France personally, an embarrassment of riches.

[chaddyrovers]

4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Not sure he has the discipline though, nor would it be playing to his strengths.

Unfortunately I think the centre of midfield is a real problem position, and one that will be part of the reason why as much as there is reason for optimism and some good players, we wont win the Euros.

Struggling to look past France personally, an embarrassment of riches.

Mount can play there and could be discipline in there. 

I really dont think Centre midfield is a problem. Against the major nations Rice and Philips will play. Right way probably allowing Mount, Foden and Sterling behind Kane  

I dont see France as Favourite at all. Probably Belgium. But the Euros will be wide open especially with the pandemic around in mainland Europe. 

Edited March 28, 2021 by chaddyrovers

[DeeCee]

Too many back and sideways passing, the Boro connection?

[K-Hod]

18 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Coming around to my way of thinking about Mount playing the deeper midfield role with Rice. 

To be fair, I don’t think I’ve seen you suggest that. I’ve seen you suggest Mount ahead of Maddison, Grealish or Foden, which I don’t agree with at all, but that’s up to you obviously.

I feel like I mention this too often, but two defensive midfielders is overly negative.

[roversfan99]

18 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Mount can play there and could be discipline in there. 

I really dont think Centre midfield is a problem. Against the major nations Rice and Philips will play. Right way probably allowing Mount, Foden and Sterling behind Kane  

I dont see France as Favourite at all. Probably Belgium. But the Euros will be wide open especially with the pandemic around in mainland Europe. 

Do you think Kalvin Phillips and Declan Rice have the quality against the likes of France, Belgium etc? Jordan Henderson is proven as better than them both but is an injury doubt.

If that is the team, theres no real threat in behind when Kane drops off. Needs more pace, in my opinion from Sancho but Saka and Rashford are also alternatives.

[chaddyrovers]

11 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

To be fair, I don’t think I’ve seen you suggest that. I’ve seen you suggest Mount ahead of Maddison, Grealish or Foden, which I don’t agree with at all, but that’s up to you obviously.

I feel like I mention this too often, but two defensive midfielders is overly negative.

Here I suggested playing 4-3-3 with Foden, Rice and Mount in midfield 3

https://www.brfcs.com/forums/topic/32147-premier-league-stuff/?do=findComment&comment=2183727

 

[K-Hod]

9 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Here I suggested playing 4-3-3 with Foden, Rice and Mount in midfield 3

https://www.brfcs.com/forums/topic/32147-premier-league-stuff/?do=findComment&comment=2183727

 

Right, but that’s not the exact same as Mount playing further back....

Anyhow, I would actually not mind that, anything bar the two sitting midfielders. If they were more box to box, it wouldn’t be so bad, but they aren’t really attacking at all!