England

[riverholmes]

England U21's struggles in their championship has surprised me - as someone who doesn't really follow that team but noticed that they seemed to have a strong squad. I wonder to what extent it is a case of other teams have superior (though, less hyped) players and England under-performing?

Aside from the striking position, where Nketiah has not been prolific at club level, though in qualifying, he has scored a lot, it seemed as if England had a team full of proven club experience. That said, I don't know about the standard of their opposition.

Edited March 30, 2021 by riverholmes

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 minute ago, riverholmes said:

England U21's struggles in their championship has surprised me - as someone who doesn't really follow that team but noticed that they seemed to have a strong squad. I wonder to what extent it is a case of other teams have superior (though, less hyped) players and England under-performing?

Too many think they’ve got it made already. They’re on easy street. Having a decent coach would help though.

[roverandout]

1 hour ago, riverholmes said:

England U21's struggles in their championship has surprised me - as someone who doesn't really follow that team but noticed that they seemed to have a strong squad. I wonder to what extent it is a case of other teams have superior (though, less hyped) players and England under-performing?

Aside from the striking position, where Nketiah has not been prolific at club level, though in qualifying, he has scored a lot, it seemed as if England had a team full of proven club experience. That said, I don't know about the standard of their opposition.

Down to boothroyd completely.  Hes like the under 21 version of Mowbray.  Clueless.  Its an outstanding squad

[roverandout]

6 hours ago, Oldgregg86 said:

never write the germans off

I'm not writing anyone off as the Germans always come good but defensively they're shite 

[roverandout]

14 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said:

defensively england are very poor and will always be caught out when playing against the best,our defensive capability ended with rio,terry,cole and neville,there has`nt been an england defender iv`e trusted since the the above all retired,kyle walker especially should`nt be anywhere near the national side,he`s a liabilty who can`t work out when to  go forward or stay back

Stones is back to his best. Walker is still an able defender but should be at fullback.  I see a new breed of young defenders coming through.  Konsa tomori gomez gheui White.  

[joey_big_nose]

1 hour ago, riverholmes said:

England U21's struggles in their championship has surprised me - as someone who doesn't really follow that team but noticed that they seemed to have a strong squad. I wonder to what extent it is a case of other teams have superior (though, less hyped) players and England under-performing?

Aside from the striking position, where Nketiah has not been prolific at club level, though in qualifying, he has scored a lot, it seemed as if England had a team full of proven club experience. That said, I don't know about the standard of their opposition.

One credible defence is a lot of their best players are now in the first team - TAA, Rice, Saka, Sancho, Bellingham, Mount.

Not sure is that's the same elsewhere in Europe or we are particularly aggressive at promoting players.

It seems when the players get a senior cap they aren't asked to step down again.

[Mattyblue]

1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Too many think they’ve got it made already. They’re on easy street. Having a decent coach would help though.

Reading in The Times today that Boothroyd is more worried about being liked than pushing the players. Obviously not an issue when they stroll through qualifiers, but they get repeatedly shown up in tournaments. 

I presume he’ll be on his bike by the weekend...
 

[joey_big_nose]

Have to say we look really impressive so far against Poland. Rice and Phillips are so physically dominant and passing forward well.

[RoverDom]

Does anyone actually get excited when Sterling is on the ball? 

[joey_big_nose]

2 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

Does anyone actually get excited when Sterling is on the ball? 

Well he's beaten his man half a dozen times and won a penalty so he's not doing too badly...

But yes final ball has been poor. If he'd been better we would have scored another one or two.

[roverandout]

Rice has been excellent again.  Phillips is dreadful.  Poland want to be taken seriously without lewondovski they need to be more adventurous.  They're garbage 

[roverandout]

10 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

Does anyone actually get excited when Sterling is on the ball? 

Sterling is magic when he's running at defenders but he can be far too lapsidasical 

[RoverDom]

Running with the ball / running at someone he's class but I have no expectation that he'll do anything with it. He either over thinks and holds onto it far too long or fluffs a shot or cross. 

Few years  off yet but when his pace goes he's finished 

[joey_big_nose]

Classic Stones... Can't afford madness like that at international level.

[matt83]

Back to his old ways. 

[rigger]

3 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Classic Stones... Can't afford madness like that at international level.

I wouldn't accept that sort of mistake at Alehouse level

[matt83]

The euro 2021 favourites have been poor this half. But like rovers flatter to deceive with pointless possession. 

[simongarnerisgod]

11 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Classic Stones... Can't afford madness like that at international level.

he thinks he`s franco baresi but in reality he`s more like darren peacock!!!!!

[joey_big_nose]

Finding Kane's positioning super weird.

I'd get Calvert-Lewin on, need another big target in the box with Poland so deep.

[RoverDom]

How have we not made a sub? 

[matt83]

England faff about with it far higher up the pitch than rovers do but often the end result is the same. Square root of fuck all created. 

[joey_big_nose]

5 minutes ago, matt83 said:

The euro 2021 favourites have been poor this half. But like rovers flatter to deceive with pointless possession. 

How can we be favourites? We're not bad, but obviously some European teams better than us.

[benhben]

Southgate a very limited manager. How has he not made a sub after a tepid second half and 80 mins gone....

England are like Rovers. Talented group with a limited Mowbray esque manager 

[matt83]

3 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

How can we be favourites? We're not bad, but obviously some European teams better than us.

Several. France, Belgium, Portugal, Germany. Probably Italy and Holland with a bit of tournament pressure.   

[RoverDom]

Lucky there I thought, pretty shite corner.