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20 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Obviously it is the League cup, but was unsure where to put this.

But Sky Sports couldnt have seemingly chosen 2 less educated and less informed pundits in regards to a Championship club in Brentford and a recently promoted Premier League club in Jamie Redknapp and Paul Merson.

Considering the amount that they charge (I think I have a good deal getting the sports package on Now TV for £25) the regularity in which the pundits fundamentally do not know what they are talking about is crazy.

The pre match coverage consisted of Merson dismissing Benrahmas value "because you can get Barkley on loan instead and Benrahma didnt even show up at Wembley" and then the pair trying to figure out exactly what Antonee Robinson was in terms of a left back based on a brief montage having clearly never seen him prior.

Sky seem to have had a cull this summer but I am not sure how Jamie Redknapp and Paul Merson survived it, and indeed what the likes of Akinfenwa who has been on Championship duty despite not knowing various fairly well known names is beyond me.

What do people think about the standard of punditry in general? Roy Keane is a bit of a guilty pleasure in spite of his presence purely to cause friction, and its difficult not to like Souness and Shearer. In general, the actual knowledge behind it seems to be on the wane.

Hargreaves is decent on BT sports, refreshing to have what used to be a standard ie a bit of actual knowledge, and they do have more expert analysis albeit usually of other European leagues, although the commentary of Steve McManaman is as aggravating as Jamie Redknapps punditry.

Completely agree regarding last night. Merson was awful as a pundit. Normally I just switch off regardless who is in the studio, but I actually stopped to take note last night as he was making very little sense.

There's a big difference between what Merson is asked to do on Soccer Saturday (which I admit I don't mind him on), and being sat in a studio giving serious, professional punditry on games.

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2 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Completely agree regarding last night. Merson was awful as a pundit. Normally I just switch off regardless who is in the studio, but I actually stopped to take note last night as he was making very little sense.

There's a big difference between what Merson is asked to do on Soccer Saturday (which I admit I don't mind him on), and being sat in a studio giving serious, professional punditry on games.

True on Soccer Saturday, that has always lived on that vibe of old players having a laugh together, indeed blatant incompetence such as Kamara missing red cards and Merson unable to pronounce names has always been part of its supposed charm.

They seem keen to move away from that now but I think it has just become confused. Not sure how Merson has survived the cull either.

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Soccer Saturday as a premise is 4 ex pros being watched as they watch football... for about 6 hours.

So of course it needs to be light hearted with them bouncing off each other, not earnest tactical discussion all day long (not that the new panelists can offer that either) but as you say, Sky seem to have forgot what the show’s USP is, diversity quotas need to be met, I suppose...

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3 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Kudos to Micah Richards and his agent. Gone from nowhere to everywhere in about 12 months...

No time for that pillock. All be does is laugh at his own comments and say 'it's just incredible' whenever he's talking about Kevin De Bruyne or City in general.

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It took Chris Sutton a long time to become a pundit. He now has a regular slot on 606. I never liked the bloke during his football career; his character that is. But as a radio pundit I think he's great.

Now Roy Keane shouldn't be allowed on TV. The man is boring; no charisma whatsoever.

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Just now, Norbert Rassragr said:

Martin Tyler used to be good, but now he's Mr. Corporate hyperbole. ".....And it's live!!!!"

Yes, we know you ____. We pay an effing fortune to see it you mong.

Depends how much you are paying watch it. I'm paying £21 a month for the Sky Sports Channels which I think is a bargain considering all the sport I watch..

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12 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Again, im not too sure how, dont think hes the best myself.

It's not about how good you are, it's about your face fitting and who you know.

Just look at Redknapp - he's awful, but has been a SKY pundit forever.

Carragher spat at a child and kept his job. 

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2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Depends how much you are paying watch it. I'm paying £21 a month for the Sky Sports Channels which I think is a bargain considering all the sport I watch..

Fair enough on value but do you think Martin Tyler is anything but an irritating commentator that should step aside?

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10 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Fair enough on value but do you think Martin Tyler is anything but an irritating commentator that should step aside?

No I don't think Martin Tyler is all irritating commentator at all. Great experience and knowledge. 

I think what I paid for my overall Sky package is a bargain at the minute. Plus Netflix and Amazon packages aswell. 

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I thought Martin O'Neill was a good pundit at the 2014 World Cup for ITV, often putting know-nowt World Cup winners (Cannavaro and Vieira) in their places.

Memorably:

'I've not won the World Cup,  and Fabio reckons I've never played. But I've won 2 European Cups, how many have you superstars won?'

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I’ve always enjoyed martin Tyler’s commentary . Still do being honest. But every now and again he’s started throwing in random things like Andy Carroll with a header. He’s he gets his hair cut at the same hairdressers as David Ghandi . It’s just unnecessary imo. But his voice I’ve grown up with and still love his style so I let things like that slide lol

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48 minutes ago, Oldgregg86 said:

I’ve always enjoyed martin Tyler’s commentary . Still do being honest. But every now and again he’s started throwing in random things like Andy Carroll with a header. He’s he gets his hair cut at the same hairdressers as David Ghandi . It’s just unnecessary imo. But his voice I’ve grown up with and still love his style so I let things like that slide lol

I honestly miss Andy Gray. 

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12 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I honestly miss Andy Gray. 

He should've kept up his 'treat women like shit in public' schtick, he could've been President by now.

But he was a great pundit. I liked his half-hour tactics show after SuperSunday too.

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31 minutes ago, jodrell said:

My favorite is the late Brian Clough For anyone not old enough to remember him.

 

Brian Clough's greatest quotes: 152 brilliant lines from iconic Nottingham Forest manager

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/brian-cloughs-greatest-quotes-152-22099030

I absolutely love Cloughie, and I was born in 1991! What a man to miss out on.

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