Tugayisgod Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/transfer-news/ben-brereton-nottingham-forest-transfer-2389411.amp&ved=2ahUKEwjJ28Dx8sbuAhWmQkEAHeTsApEQFjAFegQIDxAB&usg=AOvVaw1GdNu_vsuAMkICLG5jArN1&cf=1 Quote
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Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted January 31, 2021 Author Posted January 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/transfer-news/ben-brereton-nottingham-forest-transfer-2389411.amp&ved=2ahUKEwjJ28Dx8sbuAhWmQkEAHeTsApEQFjAFegQIDxAB&usg=AOvVaw1GdNu_vsuAMkICLG5jArN1&cf=1 Sorry, what does that prove? It doesn't say what the up front fee was? The accounts at the time suggested Rovers had forked out a big chunk up front on BB. 1 Quote
Lucimo Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 39 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Werent even the best at the club. Berg and Short were twice the player they were. Weren't very good and yet both won League Cup medals in 2002. 🤔 5 Quote
RoverKyle Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 Some embarrassing comments on here tonight. Trying to compare defenders that were competent in the Premier League to defenders we have that are middling in the Championship is a non starter. 9 Quote
Tugayisgod Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: Sorry, what does that prove? It doesn't say what the up front fee was? The accounts at the time suggested Rovers had forked out a big chunk up front on BB. The way I read it is that the transfer COULD be worth UP TO 7m, depending as I said if all the clauses are met, presumably such as appearances, goals, international call ups. I don't recall an actual up front amount being mentioned at the time. I would also think that with his improvement over the last few months if we were ever to sell Brereton we could at least get our money back Quote
Bbrovers2288 Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 33 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Wish we could sign players, sick of putting other teams youngsters in the shop window 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Bbrovers2288 said: Wish we could sign players, sick of putting other teams youngsters in the shop window We do sign players tho. Shop window?. Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gav said: The same club that has spent £4.99 on Armstrong and Dack who are now probably worth £30m+ in todays market. Its just a lazy argument concerning Gallagher and Brereton, its time to move on, posters need some new material. By the way Tiny Taylor was an awful centre back, if you think any different that says about your ability to spot a player than anything else, Johansson was a bit better. He was good enough win a cup winners medal with us playing out of position. None of our other " stars " has come near since then. We can't even get past the Doncasters of the football world with what we have at the moment. Edited January 31, 2021 by Tyrone Shoelaces 1 Quote
davulsukur Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 Liverpool have agreed a £2m fee for PNE centre back Ben Davies, with Sepp Van Den Berg going on loan to PNE. Not sure if they would use that £2m to try and sign Kipre or if the loan signing of SVDB would be enough? With us linked with this man city lad, could leave Kipre at WBA after all. Quote
bazza Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: There was a time when I though Tiny Taylor and Johanneson were going to be our long term centre backs. Look how that worked out. 2 hours ago, Gav said: By the way Tiny Taylor was an awful centre back, if you think any different that says about your ability to spot a player than anything else, Johansson was a bit better. Taylor at right back and Johannson alongside Berg in central defence in a patched up Rovers team were absolute heroes at Millennium stadium, Cardiff in 2002. The sight of Tiny attacking the Spurs' defence down the right wing in the last 10 minutes of the game still warms the cockles of my heart. Both were streets ahead of anything we have had under Venkys' tenure. 8 Quote
jim mk2 Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Shop window?. Giving them a platform for other clubs to sign... eg, Tosin who played well for us but we could never afford him so he went to Fulham. Elliott is another, we'll never be able to buy him and Liverpool will likely sell him on eventually for a big fee. This City lad if he comes will be the same. We're just a nursery for the "big" clubs. 2 Quote
roversfan99 Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 They wouldnt be able to afford Kipres wages like we wouldnt but they are rumoured to still want him on loan, although Van Den Berg would be a 5th loan which is the maximum you can have in a squad at one time. Quote
Popular Post Tyrone Shoelaces Posted January 31, 2021 Popular Post Posted January 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, bazza said: Taylor at right back and Johannson alongside Berg in central defence in a patched up Rovers team were absolute heroes at Millennium stadium, Cardiff in 2002. The sight of Tiny attacking the Spurs' defence down the right wing in the last 10 minutes of the game still warms the cockles of my heart. Both were streets ahead of anything we have had under Venkys' tenure. Johannson scored a goal any striker would have been proud of in the earlier round against City. They were two good players for Rovers. When they were just starting out I had hopes they would develop into a long term partnership. That didn't happen but to try and make out that the players we have now are somehow better is laughable. 12 Quote
BlackburnEnd75 Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Tugayisgod said: No they weren't, its ironic that to prove a point about Mowbray, people trundle out these figures as if it was paid up front. We all know transfer fees are staggered over the years, and performance based. If most people on here are correct about them,we'll have nothing to worry about on that score. Staggered and performance based are two sperarate things. If they are staggered then they arent inflated. In fact most modern transfers are staggered. Quote
Beanie01289 Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, jim mk2 said: Giving them a platform for other clubs to sign... eg, Tosin who played well for us but we could never afford him so he went to Fulham. Elliott is another, we'll never be able to buy him and Liverpool will likely sell him on eventually for a big fee. This City lad if he comes will be the same. We're just a nursery for the "big" clubs. Has Elliott been a good player for us? Could we have signed a player of his ability for what we had to spend just about every championship team signs loan players who cares as long as they play well for us. We are in with a chance of the play offs if these lads help us get were we are aiming to go then they have been more than worth it. 2 Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Beanie01289 said: Has Elliott been a good player for us? Could we have signed a player of his ability for what we had to spend just about every championship team signs loan players who cares as long as they play well for us. We are in with a chance of the play offs if these lads help us get were we are aiming to go then they have been more than worth it. If we went up and signed them permanently , some would still be complaining 😉 Edited January 31, 2021 by Bigdoggsteel Quote
Bbrovers2288 Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 47 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: We do sign players tho. Shop window?. Most of our signings past few years have been loans, I’m not a fan of them without an option to make perm. Literally developing players for other teams, we get little out of it really. Come the next window we are back to square one and having to look for a replacement. I’d rather buy potential like Pickering than some Man City wonderkid on loan. See tosin for shop window Quote
Angry_Pirate Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 Just for fun/concept, can any FM21 players highlight what we can expect from Pickering? Haven't been this excited about a LB signing since the signing of Douglas... or Bell before that. 🥴 1 Quote
Gav Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, bazza said: Taylor at right back and Johannson. Both were streets ahead of anything we have had under Venkys' tenure. In my opinion, Scott Dann was better than Tiny Taylor, Phil Jones and Tosin too. But we digress. Edited January 31, 2021 by Gav Quote
Mattyblue Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 Taylor spent a decade as a PL regular, it’s the fact we had much higher standards/were used to top quality centre halves back then, and TT didn’t quite measure up, not that he was a poor player. Christ we’ve seen much worse this past decade. 1 Quote
den Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 We had a full back called Pickering once before. He was converted to centre forward, turned out to be as good as Shearer (according to Bryan Douglas who played with him) and left for a British record transfer fee. Can Harry play centre forward? 2 Quote
47er Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said: If we went up and signed them permanently , some would still be complaining 😉 Ridiculous. Quote
Mattyblue Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 ‘Wovers’, interesting name to choose, isn’t that one of the charming ways we are referred by on Dingle forums? Quote
47er Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Tugayisgod said: I would also think that with his improvement over the last few months if we were ever to sell Brereton we could at least get our money back Seriously doubt that. If anyone offers it we would snap their hand off. 1 Quote
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