Rogerb Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, skous18 said: Weird. I would have thought that the Greek guy should have been the one sent on loan It's an emergency 7 day loan so could be soon back 1 Quote
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Tormund Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 First I’ve seen about Pickering today, been hard at it at work. After all of the build up yesterday, deal being close etc....typical Rovers. Centre half next please. Quote
magicalmortensleftpeg Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 2 hours ago, JHRover said: Selling Armstrong for over 10 million secures Mowbray's position for another couple of years. He'll be Mr Popular with the Venky bean counters and point to his approach being vindicated. Not what we need. We need to keep Armstrong as long as possible and make a managerial change to bring in the staff needed to get us promoted. The Armstrongs of this world are like gold dust. Very difficult to replace. The Mowbrays of this world are easy to replace. When did we last sell a decent player? Of all the accusations to throw at Mowbray or Venkys, you can’t argue that they’ve shown willingness to sell our best players at the first opportunity. If Armstrong goes for good money to a prem team, so be it. It happens to all Championship clubs. I don’t want him to go and I’d be concerned where the money might end up, but I wouldn’t blame the club IF the offer is right. Hopefully we’ll hold on to him until the summer at least. 1 Quote
JHRover Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said: When did we last sell a decent player? Of all the accusations to throw at Mowbray or Venkys, you can’t argue that they’ve shown willingness to sell our best players at the first opportunity. If Armstrong goes for good money to a prem team, so be it. It happens to all Championship clubs. I don’t want him to go and I’d be concerned where the money might end up, but I wouldn’t blame the club IF the offer is right. Hopefully we’ll hold on to him until the summer at least. Nor would I blame the club. I accept that we are where we are. Provided we got a reasonable price for him I wouldn't have an issue with selling him, although I would be concerned/disappointed if we did. We ain't going up any time soon unless something drastic changes so don't see how we could reasonably deny him a Premier League move. What I would object to is handing Mowbray whatever proceeds we got. He's had enough and we need to be moving on. My worry is that a sale or two of prized assets is just going to see the 'slow build' continue for another few years and the owners think Mowbray is great because he's turned them a good profit. 1 Quote
Bbrovers2288 Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 I’d sell Armstrong once it hits the 15 mill mark. I don’t think he is all that and a bag of chips. Never been so frustrated with one player being so ball greedy. He scores goals and those are hard to be replaced but I think to strengthen other areas I’d be willing to sell. Kipre, Lewis ferguson, Ronan Curtis and a striker. I’d love Gayle but probably too far out of reach. Back in for assombalonga? 1 Quote
rhodie Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 2 hours ago, JHRover said: Selling Armstrong for over 10 million secures Mowbray's position for another couple of years. He'll be Mr Popular with the Venky bean counters and point to his approach being vindicated. Not what we need. We need to keep Armstrong as long as possible and make a managerial change to bring in the staff needed to get us promoted. The Armstrongs of this world are like gold dust. Very difficult to replace. The Mowbrays of this world are easy to replace. We aren't anywhere near ready for promotion even if we went on a run. It would be embarrassing how dismal we would be in the premier League with this team and management. 1 Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, rhodie said: We aren't anywhere near ready for promotion even if we went on a run. It would be embarrassing how dismal we would be in the premier League with this team and management. Hypothetical because we're miles away...but you can do wonders, just with the proceeds of one season.... 3 Quote
EwoodGlory Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, skous18 said: Weird. I would have thought that the Greek guy should have been the one sent on loan Should have offered pears 3 Quote
JHRover Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, rhodie said: We aren't anywhere near ready for promotion even if we went on a run. It would be embarrassing how dismal we would be in the premier League with this team and management. Agreed. Which is why we need a manager and coaching staff able to get us there. Coming up on 3 years now and still nowhere near. 3 Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said: I’d sell Armstrong once it hits the 15 mill mark. I don’t think he is all that and a bag of chips. Never been so frustrated with one player being so ball greedy. He scores goals and those are hard to be replaced but I think to strengthen other areas I’d be willing to sell. Kipre, Lewis ferguson, Ronan Curtis and a striker. I’d love Gayle but probably too far out of reach. Back in for assombalonga? 2 minutes ago, JHRover said: Agreed. Which is why we need a manager and coaching staff able to get us there. Coming up on 3 years now and still nowhere near. This is the longest period in my lifetime, where we haven't even mustered a challenge... ..and that includes a period with four consecutive years in the Third.. 4 Quote
WacoRover Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, JHRover said: Agreed. Which is why we need a manager and coaching staff able to get us there. Coming up on 3 years now and still nowhere near. Who would that manager & staff be? Quote
JHRover Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, WacoRover said: Who would that manager & staff be? I've already named a dozen managers who are available who i think would progress us. If you go back through my posts. If I was being paid £300,000 a year I'd be able to find more. 6 Quote
WacoRover Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 That’s good. no thanks, no desire to read 37 pages. I had mine as well, but not on this thread. Quote
47er Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, WacoRover said: That’s good. no thanks, no desire to read 37 pages. I had mine as well, but not on this thread. Well you did ask! Quote
47er Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Leonard Venkhater said: Hypothetical because we're miles away...but you can do wonders, just with the proceeds of one season.... Yeah but we wouldn't! Quote
47er Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Bbrovers2288 said: I’d sell Armstrong once it hits the 15 mill mark. I don’t think he is all that and a bag of chips. Never been so frustrated with one player being so ball greedy. He scores goals and those are hard to be replaced but I think to strengthen other areas I’d be willing to sell. Kipre, Lewis ferguson, Ronan Curtis and a striker. I’d love Gayle but probably too far out of reach. Back in for assombalonga? The fee would be bigger than that I think but Newcastle get 30% of it! I wouldn't mind selling him for a big fee if a good manager were allowed to spend all the proceeds on players that would take us up. But that's just a dream. Quote
Uddersfelt Blue Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 IMO Armstrong going nowhere. Most certainly not to the Premier League for a massive fee. As for the badly needed centre back, as usual it will be an 11th hour signing on the last day of the window. We need one now i.e. before the Stoke match. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Bbrovers2288 said: I’d love Gayle Hes 30 years and played half the league games as Armstrong has. Armstrong is twice the player Gayle is Quote
Butty Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 5 hours ago, StevenSK said: They couldn’t afford said benrahama for 25 and spent 5 for the loan. They’re hardly suddenly finishing riches during covid whilst losing money to pay for AA are they! They’ve just sold Haller for 20+ million. Quote
Bbrovers2288 Posted January 13, 2021 Posted January 13, 2021 38 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Hes 30 years and played half the league games as Armstrong has. Armstrong is twice the player Gayle is Couldn’t disagree more tbh. Armstrong really isn’t as good as some make out Quote
roversfan99 Posted January 13, 2021 Posted January 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Bbrovers2288 said: Couldn’t disagree more tbh. Armstrong really isn’t as good as some make out 27 goals in a year for a mid table side. 2 Quote
Bbrovers2288 Posted January 13, 2021 Posted January 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: 27 goals in a year for a mid table side. Million shots, ball greedy, doesn’t look up, doesn’t pick right option 9/10 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 13, 2021 Posted January 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said: Couldn’t disagree more tbh. Armstrong really isn’t as good as some make out Well his goalscoring stats say he is good. 27 goals in 2020. That is good stats what more do you want? Quote
Sparks Rover Posted January 13, 2021 Posted January 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Well his goalscoring stats say he is good. 27 goals in 2020. That is good stats what more do you want? They are probably both god championship players but unlikely to make it in the top league. Not sure how anyone can say one is miles better than the other. Hayley does have some premier league goals to his name, so that might make him slightly more valuable. Quote
roversfan99 Posted January 13, 2021 Posted January 13, 2021 31 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said: Million shots, ball greedy, doesn’t look up, doesn’t pick right option 9/10 So he picked the wrong option at least 243 times, assuming that the only times he ever chose correctly, he scored. Quote
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