rigger Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: At least Buckleys mistakes didn't lead to goals. The same can't be said for Bennett and Douglas. Other players mistakes do not make Buckley a reasonable full-back. 2 Quote
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Blue blood Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 Blimey Bennett or Buckley at rb. Talk about a race to the bottom. Neither good enough for a championship reserve RB. Criminal that this is the debate. 7 Quote
rigger Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Blue blood said: Blimey Bennett or Buckley at rb. Talk about a race to the bottom. Neither good enough for a championship reserve RB. Criminal that this is the debate. Especially if Pike could fill in there. Mowbray is the person to blame. 2 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, rigger said: Other players mistakes do not make Buckley a reasonable full-back. Agreed, but I was just stating Bennett isn't a better option Edited January 15, 2021 by RoversClitheroe 1 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, rigger said: Especially if Pike could fill in there. Mowbray is the person to blame. Agreed too. Rigger stop talking sense. Quote
rigger Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, RoversClitheroe said: Agreed, but I was just staring Bennett isn't a better option Everyone has their own opinion. Mine is that Bennet is a better cover at right-back, than Buckley. This does not mean that I think he is good in that position. 3 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 On 13/01/2021 at 13:28, Bbrovers2288 said: Jordan Rhodes argument again. His career after rovers showed the doubters to be correct. All Armstrong gives is pace, head down and tunnel vision to get shots away. He won’t be a prem success, misses 1 v 1s and not a team player. yes goals would need to be replaced, and your right it probably won’t be somebody that scores as much but a team player striker to compliment others and notch a few would be a damn side more useful. We need a team that works as a unit rather than suited to have one player ahead of the goal table. we are where we are, Brentford model, sell the stars, build the team but then again, mowbray isn’t the man to do the build Well Rhodes never had the game for Premier league. No pace or Strength. Armstrong has pace. Armstrong is a team player but can be selfish when opportunities arrive in the box and outside. Like any normal striker Quote
Mercer Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 3 hours ago, DavidMailsTightPerm said: As a squad player I think we have missed him - gotta say he is a better right back than Buckley. Bit like a doctor saying we need to amputate a leg - can be left or right, the choice is yours! 3 Quote
BigBar Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mercer said: Bit like a doctor saying we need to amputate a leg - can be left or right, the choice is yours! Can't you just fix the issue with the right tools for the job?...why would I do that?😂 1 Quote
Vilesinner Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, rigger said: Other players mistakes do not make Buckley a reasonable full-back. No, but they make them sh1t. Quote
BigBar Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 Scary thing that I have realised watching more championship football than I would like is with a bit of investment, not as much as you would think and the right manager you would get promoted fairly easily. The standard is very average, even the teams at the top of the table aren't that great imo. 1 Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted January 15, 2021 Author Posted January 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, BigBar said: Scary thing that I have realised watching more championship football than I would like is with a bit of investment, not as much as you would think and the right manager you would get promoted fairly easily. The standard is very average, even the teams at the top of the table aren't that great imo. Yep, very average division. Always a couple of stand out teams but the rest is just down to competency. Look at Boro under Warnock, no real changes to a squad that he saved from relegation last season. 3 Quote
Bbrovers2288 Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Beanie01289 said: Thats true but would he have ever have turned down Everton to come here i think not. Wasn’t really meaning the lad turn down Everton, more that type of player from lower down we could pluck for ourselves. The diamonds in the rough so to speak. Never known us to be so reliant on loans 1 Quote
neophox Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 Pickering and Kipre may come depending on Raya's transfer to Arsenal. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 15 hours ago, JHRover said: But come May Ayala will still have 2 years to run and a dodgy injury record and Wharton will be barely half way through his absence with serious injury. Williams, Bell, Nyambe, Douglas, Braithwaite and Bennett all on their way meaning at least 6 decent defenders needed in the summer. 2x RB, 2x LB and 2x CB. Rothwell and Nyambe has a 12 months club option in their contract. Bell and Williams need to go anyway. 14 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Im not sure they could have gathered too much from 4 games to have such a glowing opinion to be fair. They seen alot more of him than any of us have really. Hope he turns out to be a good loan signing. 1 Quote
Damien Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 13 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Of course you would know after 4 games at that level. You would know after 30 minutes. I remember Phil Jones playing his first for us and I said to my father, “he is unbelievably good!” Quote
JHRover Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, neophox said: Pickering and Kipre may come depending on Raya's transfer to Arsenal. What happened to Venkys agreeing to back Mowbray this window? Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, JHRover said: What happened to Venkys agreeing to back Mowbray this window? Well one signing in so far and possible of couple more hopefully 1 Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Damien said: I remember Phil Jones playing his first for us and I said to my father, “he is unbelievably good!” He was though. That's why Fergie signed him. Who knows fully what happend him after that. 3 Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said: At least Buckleys mistakes didn't lead to goals. The same can't be said for Bennett and Douglas. Bizzare logic. Buckley is the worst of the 3 at right back. Imagine him trying to defend against a good winger, god almighty. Don't misunderstand that I am saying Bennett or Douglas are good rights backs. 2 Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Blue blood said: Blimey Bennett or Buckley at rb. Talk about a race to the bottom. Neither good enough for a championship reserve RB. Criminal that this is the debate. It's not. Our right back is Nyambe. Some are just intent on making Buckely into a player he isn't, even at right back. 2 Quote
Blue blood Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: It's not. Our right back is Nyambe. Some are just intent on making Buckely into a player he isn't, even at right back. It's not? I get we are talking about back up but to suggest either are adequate back up at rb is very low standards indeed. I get Nayambe is our RB and the reserve won't be as good. However there are still certain levels that they need to reach. And neither of them do as both are liabilities at rb. 1 Quote
bluebruce Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Rothwell and Nyambe has a 12 months club option in their contract. I've seen it mentioned twice now that Nyambe has a 12 month option in our favour, but I'm yet to see an actual source. Can you provide one? Edited January 15, 2021 by bluebruce 2 Quote
rigger Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Blue blood said: It's not? I get we are talking about back up but to suggest either are adequate back up at rb is very low standards indeed. I get Nayambe is our RB and the reserve won't be as good. However there are still certain levels that they need to reach. And neither of them do as both are liabilities at rb. I think that everyone bar Mowbray is in agreement on that. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, bluebruce said: I've seen it mentioned twice now that Nyambe has a 12 month option in our favour, but I'm yet to see an actual source. Can you show one? 1 Quote
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