roversfan99 Posted December 17, 2020 Posted December 17, 2020 Scapegoats? Players who put in regular poor performances get more criticism, I don't get how the scapegoat can change from week to week. 3 Quote
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Sparks Rover Posted December 17, 2020 Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, islander200 said: Rothwell deserves more criticism than Buckley for last night and against Forest the senior players were poor aswell. Give it a rest. When Bucko scores a goal like Joe did the other day then he gets a pass when he plays shit. Joe can drift past players in his sleep that Bucko could only dream of doing....come on. Bucko hasn't done anything of note in his whole career to date. Mr Average in every aspect of his game. 5 Quote
joey_big_nose Posted December 17, 2020 Posted December 17, 2020 Just seen Williams is out for "months not weeks...". Christ. Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted December 17, 2020 Posted December 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said: Just seen Williams is out for "months not weeks...". Christ. injury prone and not very good,get shut of him 3 Quote
islander200 Posted December 17, 2020 Posted December 17, 2020 57 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said: Give it a rest. When Bucko scores a goal like Joe did the other day then he gets a pass when he plays shit. Joe can drift past players in his sleep that Bucko could only dream of doing....come on. Bucko hasn't done anything of note in his whole career to date. Mr Average in every aspect of his game. No you give it a rest with your weird obsession with younger players and being over critical. If you took the time to read my post I said clearly Rothwell is the better player but let's not pretend that Rothwell has been anything but average in his time here. Rothwell has talent no doubt about it but he is 25 and has spent his career in league 1 and the rest of the time on our bench mostly. Rothwell has not YET delivered on his promise the stats clearly prove that.A few nice dribbles and runs that lead to nothing isn't good play imo 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted December 17, 2020 Posted December 17, 2020 Rothwell couldnt sum us up more aptly really. Full of promise and useful attributes but never mainfests into any sort of consistency. 4 Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted December 17, 2020 Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, roversfan99 said: Rothwell couldnt sum us up more aptly really. Full of promise and useful attributes but never mainfests into any sort of consistency. We have lots of decent CM's capable of good performances, but not one (except Travis) who is capable of consistently playing well, it would seem. 1 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted December 17, 2020 Posted December 17, 2020 3 hours ago, islander200 said: Buckley played well against QPR when he came on early. He was poor last night as he was against Forest, but Rothwell deserves more criticism than Buckley for last night and against Forest the senior players were poor aswell. Jesus Tony is that you? What a load of complete twonk. 3 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted December 17, 2020 Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) Rothwell for me is in the top 5 to start every game. No excuse at all for him to be dropped for any future games....Ooooon The other hand, I wouldn’t want to be at this club under this delusional Dino we have. Edited December 17, 2020 by BankEnd Rover 4 Quote
islander200 Posted December 17, 2020 Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, BankEnd Rover said: Jesus Tony is that you? What a load of complete twonk. Rothwell should be considered a senior player.He wasn't as bad as Buckley last night but he still played crap. If you think Rothwell played well last night then I think it's you talking twonk. Rothwell has had plenty and plenty of chances and goes missing absolute loads.Like I have said the talent is clearly there but one goal or assist every 20 appearances isn't good enough for a player with his attributes Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted December 17, 2020 Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, islander200 said: Rothwell should be considered a senior player.He wasn't as bad as Buckley last night but he still played crap. If you think Rothwell played well last night then I think it's you talking twonk. Rothwell has had plenty and plenty of chances and goes missing absolute loads.Like I have said the talent is clearly there but one goal or assist every 20 appearances isn't good enough for a player with his attributes No one played well last night. Out of everyone, like the last few games, he’s the only one that looks like doing anything. We have a donkey on the wing & Tony’s tombola boy playing like a rabbit in headlights but Tony still takes Joe off. Mowbray knit picks at Rothwell & the moment he’s lost a little momentum, he’s off. Edited December 17, 2020 by BankEnd Rover 1 Quote
islander200 Posted December 17, 2020 Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, BankEnd Rover said: No one played well last night. Out of everyone, like the last few games, he’s the only one that looks like doing anything. We have a donkey on the wing & Tony’s tombola boy playing like a rabbit in headlights but Tony still takes Joe off. Mowbray knit picks at Rothwell & the moment he’s lost a little momentum in a he’s off. Rothwell has talent but how many times last night did he get the ball with space in front of him and he didn't drive into it. I like Rothwell but he doesn't get the numbers a player with his attributes should and he does go missing an awful lot. I agree it looks like Mowbray harder on Rothwell but Rothwell has been here a few years now and is still doing the same old things in matches and his numbers in terms of goals and assists is terrible if we are going to be truthful. I know it's the in thing on here to blame everything on Mowbray but surely Rothwell should take some responsibility for his own performances.He is 25 years old and his career to date has been spent in league one and for the majority of his time here on the bench that isn't good enough for someone with his talent . 1 Quote
Sparks Rover Posted December 17, 2020 Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, islander200 said: Rothwell has talent but how many times last night did he get the ball with space in front of him and he didn't drive into it Probably worried that he had no proper back up in Bucko if he lost it. Rothwell is in our best 11, he's assisted, scored a beauty last week and consistently picks the ball up and takes the game to the opposition. He has credit in the bank and we forgive the odd poor game because we know what he is capable of. We cannot say the same about the Mr Buckley. Quote
darrenrover Posted December 18, 2020 Author Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Sparks Rover said: Give it a rest. When Bucko scores a goal like Joe did the other day then he gets a pass when he plays shit. Joe can drift past players in his sleep that Bucko could only dream of doing....come on. Bucko hasn't done anything of note in his whole career to date. Mr Average in every aspect of his game. Having read your negative comments on Bucko for a while, I really did feel you had some form of vendetta against him for some reason, to the point of thinking that he must be your wife's illegitimate son or something! That said, having watching him play for a while recently, I feel that some of your negative views may have an element of truth. He does flatter to deceive but does have something about him in terms of potential, even though he gives the impression that he's afraid of his own shadow at times. After all, were United and Everton not supposed to be courting his services a couple of years back? They must have seen something in him. I feel that he's not yet ready for regular Championship football, needs to beef up a bit and probably sent away on loan in January to gain more experience of 'grown up football'. Remember that fella' who cost £7 million and everybody wrote off as a dud (including me), now we're all clamouring for his first team return, who'd 'ave thowt it? Players can come good and perhaps Bucko is the current Jason Wilcox, who will then go on to have a sterling career! I bet you used to stand in the old Nuttall St Enclosure Sparks?! Give the lad a break, you just never know! Edited December 18, 2020 by darrenrover 6 Quote
nathan_rovers1 Posted December 18, 2020 Posted December 18, 2020 A thumping 2-1 win for us this weekend, for me I think this period is vital. I think is we can pick up 3 wins from the next four, it will set us well for next year, unlikely I know! Quote
Mattyblue Posted December 18, 2020 Posted December 18, 2020 11 hours ago, joey_big_nose said: Just seen Williams is out for "months not weeks...". Christ. So down to just two (injury prone themselves) centre halves for the season and it’s not even Christmas. Who’d have thought it? 7 Quote
darrenrover Posted December 18, 2020 Author Posted December 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: So down to just two (injury prone themselves) centre halves for the season and it’s not even Christmas. Who’d have thought it? I can think of about 10 bloody thousand for starters Matty! 2 Quote
Hoochie Bloochie Mama Posted December 18, 2020 Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) Brereton update & Rovers defender out for 'months not weeks' | Lancashire Telegraph “Huge credit to Derrick, he played with an injury, that was the players’ decision, and it probably hasn’t done him any favours, or us any favours long-term, because it now looks like it could keep him out for a sustained time.” No wonder there are so many long-term injuries. Letting the players and not the medical team decide is nonsense. Edited December 18, 2020 by Hoochie Bloochie Mama 7 Quote
G Somerset Rover Posted December 18, 2020 Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: Brereton update & Rovers defender out for 'months not weeks' | Lancashire Telegraph “Huge credit to Derrick, he played with an injury, that was the players’ decision, and it probably hasn’t done him any favours, or us any favours long-term, because it now looks like it could keep him out for a sustained time.” No wonder there are so many long-term injuries. Letting players not the medical team decide, is nonsense. Wow. Given Ayala was fit, that’s an absolutely ludicrous decision by Mowbray and our medical team. Forget Derrick FFS, he shouldn’t be telling us he’s starting. Edited December 18, 2020 by Gavlar Somerset Rover! 2 Quote
CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber Posted December 18, 2020 Posted December 18, 2020 We'll lose this. Michael O'Neill will have out thought and out maneuvered Tony who will be focusing on listing off the entire Stoke squad, describing why each and every single one of them is a huge threat to little old Blackburn Rovers. 2 Quote
davulsukur Posted December 18, 2020 Posted December 18, 2020 Goes without saying if we play like we did against Rotherham, we will be in for a tubbing. As always options are limited: --------------Kaminski Nyambe--Lenihan--Ayala--Whoever ----Rothwell---Trybull---Holtby ---Elliott----Armstrong--Dolan Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted December 18, 2020 Posted December 18, 2020 4 hours ago, darrenrover said: Having read your negative comments on Bucko for a while, I really did feel you had some form of vendetta against him for some reason, to the point of thinking that he must be your wife's illegitimate son or something! That said, having watching him play for a while recently, I feel that some of your negative views may have an element of truth. He does flatter to deceive but does have something about him in terms of potential, even though he gives the impression that he's afraid of his own shadow at times. After all, were United and Everton not supposed to be courting his services a couple of years back? They must have seen something in him. I feel that he's not yet ready for regular Championship football, needs to beef up a bit and probably sent away on loan in January to gain more experience of 'grown up football'. Remember that fella' who cost £7 million and everybody wrote off as a dud (including me), now we're all clamouring for his first team return, who'd 'ave thowt it? Players can come good and perhaps Bucko is the current Jason Wilcox, who will then go on to have a sterling career! I bet you used to stand in the old Nuttall St Enclosure Sparks?! Give the lad a break, you just never know! To be fair Brereton had done a lot more at Forrest than Buckley has done in senior football, so we had that to cling to lol. Buckley now is luxury we can't afford. We have midfielders who can do more for the team. The step up from under 23 football is huge and you can see it with him. He probably should have been sent out on loan already, but as was mentioned the other day, would any league 1 manager guarantee him starts? I remember league 1 and I don't remember any players that slight in the midfield Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted December 18, 2020 Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said: We'll lose this. Michael O'Neill will have out thought and out maneuvered Tony who will be focusing on listing off the entire Stoke squad, describing why each and every single one of them is a huge threat to little old Blackburn Rovers. Very possible. I would certainly take a draw right now if offered it. 1 Quote
Sparks Rover Posted December 18, 2020 Posted December 18, 2020 5 hours ago, darrenrover said: I feel that some of your negative views may have an element of truth. He does flatter to deceive ? Players can come good and perhaps Bucko is the current Jason Wilcox, who will then go on to have a sterling career! I bet you used to stand in the old Nuttall St Enclosure Sparks?! Give the lad a break, you just never know! He doesn't flatter to deceive as he has never done anything of note in any match. Do you mean the england international and Premier league winning winger, Wilcox? When Jason was 18 he was dribbling past players in the reserves who had played for England and current pros coming back from injury...I watched the reserves every home game when he was a trainee. I'll give him a break when he's gone and is playing at a level he should be. National League....we aren't a charity and I feel he is getting special treatment. Why would any top prem club want him? They have 17 year olds who are better now. Quote
SBlue Posted December 18, 2020 Posted December 18, 2020 Bloody hell he's a bit of a way to go but National League? Surely you can see why that kind of ridiculous hyperbole is divisive. 2 Quote
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