Mowbrays Successor

[Ewood Ace]

14 minutes ago, Gav said:

Again you’re cherry picking, Mowbray has been with us 4+ seasons - Leeds have spent well over £40m in that time, we’re not even close EA.

Because thanks to Mowbray taking us down we had to spend a year in the third tier, where Mowbray had a budget that blew the whole division out of the water but could still only muster second place. I am going of the time that Mowbray has spent in the second tier. 

Also why do you continue to ignore the points about net spend Leeds only spend that money because they sold Wood for £15 Million, Cook for £6 Million, Roofe for £5 Million, Viera for £6 Million, Jansson for £5 Million, Clarke for £10 Million. Mowbray since he has has been manager (including in League 1)  has spent getting on for £19 Million and has only sold Raya for £3 Million and Steele for £500K.

It doesn't take a genius to work out how Mowbray could increase his transfer budget you simply do what the likes Leeds, Brentford etc do which is to cash in on their high value players and reinvest in the squad. Mowbray is very luck in that he gets to keep the likes of Nyambe, Dack, Travis and Armstrong and he is also given funds to add to the squad as well. There aren't many managers in this division who are able to do that. 

Edited January 3, 2021 by Ewood Ace

[Gav]

52 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

Also why do you continue to ignore the points about net spend Leeds only spend that money because they sold Wood for £15 Million, Cook for £6 Million, Roofe for £5 Million, Viera for £6 Million, Jansson for £5 Million, Clarke for £10 Million.

Leeds spent much more than that, you are cherry picking again. 

But....

If Mowbray sold Armstrong for £30m and reinvested that £30m in players, would you argue he’d spent net zero? Had nothing to spend? Or sack him he’s wasted a fortune? 

Edited January 3, 2021 by Gav

[Norbert Rassragr]

Would you expect that the theoretical £30m be spent well though?

[Gav]

19 minutes ago, Norbert Rassragr said:

Would you expect that the theoretical £30m be spent well though?

Yes

[DeeCee]

If TM could sell AA for £30M I'd show my arse on the Town Hall steps. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

7 hours ago, dingles staying down 4ever said:

Correction.....mainly the same players bar the keeper. Nymabe, Lenihan, Wharton and Williams were all here.

Wharton would have been playing for the under 16's then I suppose. Only Williams was an experienced regular player. I've tried to block out the memories of the dross that was pulling on the shirt in Coyle's time here.

[Gav]

33 minutes ago, DeeCee said:

If TM could sell AA for £30M I'd show my arse on the Town Hall steps. 

My dad said that in 1990 when I told him we'd tried to sign Gary Lineker - 😃

But yes DeeCee, its hypothetical.....

[Ewood Ace]

1 hour ago, Gav said:

If Mowbray sold Armstrong for £30m and reinvested that £30m in players, would you argue he’d spent net zero? Had nothing to spend? Or sack him he’s wasted a fortune? 

Well he would have spent net zero wouldn't he. I don't need to argue it that would be a simple fact. 

 

37 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Wharton would have been playing for the under 16's then I suppose. Only Williams was an experienced regular player. I've tried to block out the memories of the dross that was pulling on the shirt in Coyle's time here.

Didn't Coyle give Wharton his first team debut. I'm almost certain that he played in a draw at home to Burton as well as scoring in a league cup game.

[47er]

10 hours ago, davulsukur said:

19/20 - 63pts, 66 GF, 63 GA

18/19 - 60pts, 64 GF, 69 GA

Some improvement, although marginal. 

glacial

[47er]

1 hour ago, Gav said:

Yes

I wouldn't. 

[47er]

In the end every manager runs his course. The players need fresh input, they get sick of hearing the same old stuff, the supporters need something to believe in again and so on.

We are not going up with this bloke and, if we did, it would be embarrassing.

We're stale and its time.

[DE.]

If we spent £30m the only guarantee would be that none of it would be spent on the back four. We'd end up with five new CM's, three strikers to compete for left/right wing slots and another goalkeeper. 

[Gone to seed]

I see there is a locally based nut job suddenly available for the (yet to be vacated)TM role who would take a very different approach with our players..

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jan/04/joey-barton-leaves-role-as-fleetwood-town-manager

Go on then, all together now... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

[Waggy76]

17 hours ago, Ewood Ace said:

Well he would have spent net zero wouldn't he. I don't need to argue it that would be a simple fact. 

 

Didn't Coyle give Wharton his first team debut. I'm almost certain that he played in a draw at home to Burton as well as scoring in a league cup game.

He did

[Leonard Venkhater]

15 minutes ago, WIR Second Coming said:

I see there is a locally based nut job suddenly available for the (yet to be vacated)TM role who would take a very different approach with our players..

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jan/04/joey-barton-leaves-role-as-fleetwood-town-manager

Go on then, all together now... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Mulgrew to take over?

[rigger]

3 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

Mulgrew to take over?

Isn't he only on loan at Fleetwood.

[Leonard Venkhater]

5 minutes ago, rigger said:

Isn't he only on loan at Fleetwood.

Yep...but it might be an opportunity to suit all three parties?

[rigger]

29 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

Yep...but it might be an opportunity to suit all three parties?

How much would you except for Mulgrew ?

[Leonard Venkhater]

17 minutes ago, rigger said:

How much would you except for Mulgrew ?

I think we are at the stage of it being enough, just to get his wages off the books/paid for...

[neophox]

Michael Appleton is doing a really good job with Lincoln. Remember he was here in a short period of time and was a up and coming manager that has done well with Lincoln.

[roversfan99]

He must have improved plenty since his time here, of course it was a tough time but his football was mind numbingly bad and he cost us a semi final at Wembley.

[bazza]

Appleton wasn't here long enough for us to see what he could do.

Neither was Berg.

[Mike E]

1 hour ago, bazza said:

Appleton wasn't here long enough for us to see what he could do.

Neither was Berg.

I struggled with Berg, but I really liked Appleton. He was a blunt instrument and seemed to be getting a lot more effort out of those players. Needed longer to see it translate into results.

[Blue blood]

McCarthy has left his latest role in Cyprus. Would take him over TM despite it not working out over there. He's now out of work which seems a key requirement for our owners.

[Sparks Rover]

That's Bilic ruled out. Gone to China for a couple of seasons...