Stoke (h) Saturday 16th Jan

[rigger]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

It's you asking about what Waggott role is wont he been advising the owners. 

From the looks of it, no. 

[Fraserkirky]

I thought Bradley Johnson weighed in with the worst half of football by a Centre midfielder in a rovers shirt since Jason Lowe. Seems to have gone unnoticed.

He should be nowhere near the starting 11

[Tormund]

7 minutes ago, Fraserkirky said:

I thought Bradley Johnson weighed in with the worst half of football by a Centre midfielder in a rovers shirt since Jason Lowe. Seems to have gone unnoticed.

He should be nowhere near the starting 11

Funny how he rarely gets slated but the ones who have performed do! Amazing!

[Blue blood]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Well the last 4 managers have all come from the same agency. Who to say it wouldn't be from the same agency again. 

 

It's the only possible argument that has any credence whatsoever as to why TM should stay, but I would like it if said argument was accompanied by the acknowledgement that TM is pretty poor. 

As it is the arguments gets weaker every day as TM continues with error after error, and with absolutely shocking comments, lowering the bar so even the said agency has comparable.candidtates. 

[Herbie6590]

1 hour ago, Riverside under the drip said:

A thought which amused me as I sat through that bilge was the idea of my plastic alter-ego boycotting the rest of the season. I could ask for it to be removed. Imagine the publicity if plenty of people did that (mental villainous mwah ha ha)...

 

[Bigdoggsteel]

1 hour ago, Fraserkirky said:

I thought Bradley Johnson weighed in with the worst half of football by a Centre midfielder in a rovers shirt since Jason Lowe. Seems to have gone unnoticed.

He should be nowhere near the starting 11

Ya, he was dreadful. He's in the undroppable category now and his performances show it. I can't remember the last time he had a decent game. I can't barely remember the last time he did anything decent , full stop. He has it in him, he just seems to have faded through maybe exhaustion? Burn out? He looks like he is running through quicksand at times. Surely Trybull or Davenport would be the better option. 

 

[Ghost7]

1 hour ago, Fraserkirky said:

I thought Bradley Johnson weighed in with the worst half of football by a Centre midfielder in a rovers shirt since Jason Lowe. Seems to have gone unnoticed.

He should be nowhere near the starting 11

He's past it. Offers very little going forward or defensively imo. I'm not sure why he is making the starting 11.

Then again John Obi Mikel made it look easy enough.

[Fraserkirky]

24 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Ya, he was dreadful. He's in the undroppable category now and his performances show it. I can't remember the last time he had a decent game. I can't barely remember the last time he did anything decent , full stop. He has it in him, he just seems to have faded through maybe exhaustion? Burn out? He looks like he is running through quicksand at times. Surely Trybull or Davenport would be the better option. 

 

Yeah late to every single ball today, way too slow. His last and maybe only really good performance was away at Cardiff last year second half.

I think he is an abysmal player at this level and a huge issue. No doubt will be first name on the team sheet on Tuesday.

Edited January 16, 2021 by Fraserkirky

[Doogs]

Blessing in disguise that we cant get on Ewood, and watch this shite week in and week out...I dread to think how many season tickets will be sold in the summer...

[Wood26]

26 minutes ago, Doogs said:

Blessing in disguise that we cant get on Ewood, and watch this shite week in and week out...I dread to think how many season tickets will be sold in the summer...

Irrelevant from our performances. We sold 2k season tickets and another 2k at best watch online on day pass.

Our attendance will stay levels it is unless we go up.

Online fans who don’t watch the team yet jump on this message board and social media to demand change, sure that audience will continue to be here.

[yankfan]

Post match comments from TM are laughable.  Blaming the pitch, sure it’s bad but Stoke seemed to adapt. We had trained there all week so the condition shouldn’t have come as a surprise...Then to talk about the players not being up to it, which is also true, but whose job is it for them to be prepared?

 

Both comments point right at TM.  He says he’s like to have 4 million quid to sign players, but has 14 million of strikers on the bench or playing on the wing. 

Edited January 17, 2021 by yankfan

[simongarnerisgod]

11 minutes ago, yankfan said:

Post match comments from TM are laughable.  Blaming the pitch, sure it’s bad but Stoke seemed to adapt. We had trained there all week so the condition shouldn’t have come as a surprise...Then to talk about the players not being up to it, which is also true, but whose job is it for them to be prepared?

 

Both comments point right at TM.  He says he’s like to have 4 million quid to sign players, but has 14 million of strikers on the bench or playing on the wing. 

i would`nt give him a f*****g bean seeing as what he`s spent 12 million quid on,should be a sacking offence on it`s own and thats before his criminal criticism  to the press about some of his players,not surprised he`s lost the dressing,it should be kept behind the scenes

[Sparks Rover]

32 minutes ago, Wood26 said:

Online fans who don’t watch the team yet jump on this message board and social media to demand change, sure that audience will continue to be here.

Like who?  Give us some names of people on here who don't watch the team.

[Wood26]

7 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Like who?  Give us some names of people on here who don't watch the team.

Scroll through yourself pal and you will see those who said they didn’t bother.

[Sparks Rover]

Just now, Wood26 said:

Scroll through yourself pal and you will see those who said they didn’t bother.

I can't find anyone.  Give us some  names mate..there's a good chap.👊

[Wood26]

Just now, Sparks Rover said:

I can't find anyone.  Give us some  names mate..there's a good chap.👊

😂 you didn’t look, obviously. I don’t need to name people like it’s some kind of shame. Just different types of fans on here and social media.

[Sparks Rover]

2 minutes ago, Wood26 said:

😂 you didn’t look, obviously. I don’t need to name people like it’s some kind of shame. Just different types of fans on here and social media.

Ok fair enough mate. 👍 

Lousy today though eh? Mowbray masterstroke with the sub though....

 

[Wood26]

1 minute ago, Sparks Rover said:

Ok fair enough mate. 👍 

Lousy today though eh? Mowbray masterstroke with the sub though....

 

Yeah, miserable to watch until last 10 minutes, as per usual for a home game it seems these days.

As it seems of late, it’s good we can bring subs on who can improve the side (like Holtby, Davenport) worrying thing is when these players start they don’t produce. (Not Davenport he was good his first start) But squad in general

[Crimpshrine]

4 hours ago, Riverside under the drip said:

A thought which amused me as I sat through that bilge was the idea of my plastic alter-ego boycotting the rest of the season. I could ask for it to be removed. Imagine the publicity if plenty of people did that (mental villainous mwah ha ha)...

Do it please. Or ask for your cutout to be turned to face away from the pitch.

[joey_big_nose]

4 hours ago, rigger said:

One thing I find strange is that people are fixated by league position. Personally I judge on the football produced. The two usually go hand in hand. The football we are producing is utter dross and has been for most of the season.

First 8 games or so we looked really good. Wheels came off when the games came thick and fast in run up to Christmas. We couldn't sustain a high intensity 433 and the injury list just kept growing.

Looking back I would say our big problems were 1) not getting more defenders and signing a decent left back 2) not having a defensive tactical alternative to 433 - say a 343 - we could wheel out against teams who were better than us (Norwich, Watford, Reading) or could nullify us with their own 343 (Bristol City, Stoke).

It's a real shame to be sat here only half way through the season with a really decent squad with virtually no prospect of top six. Better defensive planning would have avoided this situation.

[Fraserkirky]

Holtby and Rothwell need to do so much better for us. Holtby today came off the bench and looked the best player on the pitch, where the hell has that been the last 10 games or so. What is going on?

[bigbrandjohn]

On the positive side I hear Branthwaite had a positive start. 

[AllRoverAsia]

I watched the game in real time and have just re-watched on the iFollow extended highlights.

Armstrong was onside, no doubts about that.

The ball looked over the line before Elliott passed to Buckley to score. There is a side on camera angle in the highlights.

Armstrong was fouled when breaking clear a long way from goal. He's not that good on 1 on 1 so maybe a 20% chance he scores.

Kaminsky made a great save, so did the Stoke Keeper. Stoke hit the post.

On the Stoke goal as the corner kick comes in Nyambe pushes Johnston forcibly in his back as Johnson is running towards the cross. The result of that odd behaviour is that Johnson is pushed under the cross, Nyambe in anchored to the floor and an unmarked Powell nods in. I have no explanation other than Nyambe is trying to give Johnson leverage to jump and it fails miserably.

 

Johnson was appalling, Branthwaite had an excellent debut, Davenport looks good and should now be a starter, Travis and Dack are way of being match fit but have to play to achieve that, Kaminski had a great save but also got lucky with a low cross he just deflected out into play. Elliott was quiet until he got the (fortunate) assist and gets a pass on making any 50/50 challenges but we can't expect perfection from a young lad. Hes going to play in the PL for someone.

 

Brereton injected energy when he came on, I may criticise him but hell he tries hard. Douglas did reasonably ok.

 

We were crap for 75 minutes and did well to escape with a point.

 

i wish we had someone who could have taken 'care' of Powell and Allen.

The Ref and his flag-bearers have never played Football, maybe Netball

 

The Pitch - a leg breaker, like being back in the 70's and earlier. A disgrace on the Club.

 

Edited January 17, 2021 by AllRoverAsia

[@roverseas]

Absolutely woeful display by Rovers. Out thought and out played by Stoke... AT HOME! The club needs some fresh ideas, and also bare in mind... Stoke didnt have a striker on the pitch! Livid.  Swansea on Tuesday will be painful.

 

 

[Mattyblue]

Little dig from Sharpe in his verdict. Though a bit snide if it’s only ever in copy and not held to account in interviews...

‘But of late, neither your eyes or the statistics are offering much comfort to supporters, many who fear that just two league games in 2021 another long run to the finish line awaits.’