Tyrone Shoelaces Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 Just now, rovers11 said: Well done to Adam Armstrong. He's worked hard, given everything here, and richly deserves his move to the premier league. I can't think of a single reason why he should stay here. I hope he does really well. I think he will. I'm not sure how pleased the Saints will be with the signing as he's nowhere near as good as Ings and is completely unproven at the top level. I agree, Ings is a much better all round forward. I’m not convinced Armstrong has what it takes to make it at the very top, he’s too one dimensional for me. 6 Quote
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JBiz Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said: So an emergency loan because we hadn't invested properly at the back. He looked every inch an emergency loan as well. Out of all the loans we've had over the last 3-4 years, I'd say Harrison Reed (wasn't used properly by TM though), Tosin, Elliott and Hardwood Bellis have been a cut above what we had. The rest have been on a sliding scale of bang average to shite. That's probably around a 30% success rate. If we are making 5 loans this summer. The likelihood is that a maximum of 2 will actually improve the team. Injuries to 2 centrebacks aka Ayala and Wharton don’t forget. Hindsight is a fantastic thing. Also - out of all the loans last season, Branthwaite was probably the least convincing. Harwood bellis was good enough, Harvey was a sensation, Trybull didn’t do too badly, Douglas struggled with injuries but was an improvement on Bell. Sounds more like 80% justifiable to me, and the one not so much an “emergency”. Season before was Tosin, Walton and Cunningham. Walton was poor, however we needed a GK and I’m happy we waited because the player we got eventually is a cracking GK. Tosin was excellent and Cunny got injured early doors. Hard to suggest that season was “loan bust”? Season before - Palmer, Brereton (with fee agreed) and Harrison… I would say all three decent acquisitions at the times. Again - an improved squad due to loans. Despite all this, we could easily sign 5 loans this season and it could be 0% successful, but I’d put that down to choice of player recruited - not because they’re “loans”. In an ideal world weve just signed Harry Wilson 12m in attempt to instantly get promoted, but I’m sure most rovers fans would accept that’s almost impossible when trying to compete with wages / fees that relegated premier league teams can manage. 1 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 Just now, Mercer said: The lad missed the 2nd half of last season through injury!!! Hope it isn't going to be another one of those................................. Welcome to the BRFC convalescent ward. Quote
JohnGo Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, K-Hod said: Steady on assuming what I’d be doing. Like walking into Tesco, seeing a lettuce for 50p, then offering 35p…. You can do exactly that, a price in a shop is an “offer to treat” in law. Try it. You don’t like any criticism of your posts. Quote
Mercer Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, callumrovers said: Ive seen a few figures banded about.on twitter by journalists. 15 mil max + add ons. Read it again !!! "Adam Armstrong of up to £15m with add-ons" It's in the wording ie UP TO £15million when adds on are taken into account. If it was £15m plus add ons, it would say so!!! I'll back my colleague in NE over any Talkshyte presenter. Edited August 9, 2021 by Mercer 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 Only £15m for Armstrong is a very low fee, considering we have "held out." It is a myth that Venkys always hold out for the highest fee, look at Cairney, Gestede and Duffy for example. We HAVE to sign a permanent replacement, of course at a fraction of the fee we receive. This Khadra doesn't excite me, minimal first team exposure, a total unknown. Loans in general (as long as you dont sign too many) can be a very useful method of signing players better than what we have, seen with Harwood Bellis, Elliott, Reed and Adarabioyo. 3 Quote
1864roverite Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: I agree, Ings is a much better all round forward. I’m not convinced Armstrong has what it takes to make it at the very top, he’s too one dimensional for me. Valid point. Looking at Che Adams, its taken him almost 2 years to get up to speed in the PL. I wish him all the very best but would welcome him back with open arms Quote
roversfan99 Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 https://www.footballinsider247.com/brentford-set-sights-on-signing-blackburn-rovers-26-yr-old/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1628503168-1 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: https://www.footballinsider247.com/brentford-set-sights-on-signing-blackburn-rovers-26-yr-old/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1628503168-1 And fans don't rate Rothwell 🥴🥴🥴 7 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted August 9, 2021 Moderation Lead Posted August 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, JohnGo said: You can do exactly that, a price in a shop is an “offer to treat” in law. Try it. You don’t like any criticism of your posts. Criticise away, I’ve a skin thicker than a rhino 👍 Quote
TruRover Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: I agree, Ings is a much better all round forward. I’m not convinced Armstrong has what it takes to make it at the very top, he’s too one dimensional for me. Personally I think he’ll do well. He can score from anywhere and has got pace to burn. Got to remember he’s only 24. 1 Quote
RoverDom Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, K-Hod said: I’ve a skin thicker than a rhino Aye we've all put on a few pounds during lockdown 4 Quote
bluebruce Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, callumrovers said: Ive seen a few figures banded about.on twitter by journalists. 15 mil max + add ons. Villa watch can stfu. It's not expensive, it's cheap. And only possible at that price because of his contract. Edited August 9, 2021 by bluebruce Quote
JBiz Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: And fans don't rate Rothwell 🥴🥴🥴 Less than 50 goals/assists combined in 250 career appearances for someone who is an attacking midfielder might explain why he’s not as well thought of universally. Personally thought the change to 433 with him one of the CMs on the side plays to his strengths though. Issue with that is the closing down, positioning to stop direct balls behind the defence (like the one kaminski stopped early doors on Saturday) Quote
4000Holes Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 Of all the clubs thar Armstrong has been linked with, I think Southampton is the best fit from his point of view. Norwich, he would be playing us again next season, as long as we are not relegated. Palace might join them. Southampton have a good manager who appears to get the best out of his players and it’s a well run club. I wish Armstrong all the best 2 Quote
Backroom Tom Posted August 9, 2021 Backroom Posted August 9, 2021 Is that lad Dike who was banging them in for Barnsley still available, I know Barnsley were priced out so could rule us out though 2 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tom said: Is that lad Dike who was banging them in for Barnsley still available, I know Barnsley were priced out so could rule us out though Think he's double figures if we wanted him. Nicko still adamant about Obefemi Quote
JBiz Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tom said: Is that lad Dike who was banging them in for Barnsley still available, I know Barnsley were priced out so could rule us out though Playing in MLS Quote
callumrovers Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 23 minutes ago, Mercer said: Read it again !!! "Adam Armstrong of up to £15m with add-ons" It's in the wording ie UP TO £15million when adds on are taken into account. If it was £15m plus add ons, it would say so!!! I'll back my colleague in NE over any Talkshyte presenter. Alrite Mercer, chill out. You been knocking back the red already? Quote
Backroom Tom Posted August 9, 2021 Backroom Posted August 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, JBiz said: Playing in MLS Is that where he was previously or a decent move? Quote
TruRover Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) Rumours that this deal is unofficially 12m + 3m add ons AND Obafemi. Officially it is a straight cash deal. Sound like Southampton may ‘separately’ give us Obafemi at a cut price fee so that we avoid it being added to the fee due to Newcastle. Edited August 9, 2021 by TruRover 5 Quote
JBiz Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tom said: Is that where he was previously or a decent move? From recollection he was on loan from Orlando and went back Quote
callumrovers Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, TruRover said: Rumours that this deal is unofficially 12m + 3m add ons AND Obafemi. Officially it is a straight cash deal. Sound like Southampton may ‘separately’ give us Obafemi at a cut price fee so that we avoid it being added to the fee due to Newcastle. To be fair Nicko is pretty shit at transfer info but hes sticking his neck out on the line with this. As above recons we will get obafemi in a seperate cut price deal to stop Newcastle getting any profit. Did say if the player wants to come though. 1 Quote
rigger Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tom said: Is that where he was previously or a decent move? Returned after a loan at Barnsley, Might have been a recent or a decent move. Quote
BlackburnEnd75 Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, TruRover said: Rumours that this deal is unofficially 12m + 3m add ons AND Obafemi. Officially it is a straight cash deal. Sound like Southampton may ‘separately’ give us Obafemi at a cut price fee so that we avoid it being added to the fee due to Newcastle. If we get obafemi out of this I would be very happy. Much better than getting a loan in. Quote
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