nbdrovers Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, tomphil said: They are the one's who seem to operate on behalf of this club. ahhh, agency. thank you. was thinking initials of a club higher-up and couldn't place a name Edited August 9, 2021 by nbdelboy clarity Quote
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islander200 Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 Nixon tweeting that other clubs in for Obafemi and valued at 6.If he doesn't come here Southampton will have to pay more Quote
Beanie01289 Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: I dont get how the price can be affected by a potential Obafemi deal as Mowbray isnt even sure if he is interested and whether a deal will be agreed with him. Plus if Armstrong is at a favourable rate, what stops Southampton cancelling the deal? I'd imagine there will be things in place that stops them just cancelling the deal I mean if thats the case whats to stop them just not sending us the payments when they are due. Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 If we are getting him for say £3 million, we could regret missing out. That's a snip these days. Quote
roversfan99 Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Beanie01289 said: I'd imagine there will be things in place that stops them just cancelling the deal I mean if thats the case whats to stop them just not sending us the payments when they are due. The payment plan will surely be part of the contract whereas if there is a gentlemans agreement to knock a few million off both fees to reduce any sell on, that couldnt be a legal obligation otherwise surely it would cause issues with blatantly window dressing the fee to avoid paying as much to Newcastle. Quote
roversfan99 Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 I can just see the Obafemi deal not materialising and us signing solely loans, with the money set aside for that deal never being seen again. 6 Quote
Tugay-is-God Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 As far as I'm aware, Obafemi's only got a year on his contract as well. 6 million sounds like a lot in that instance. Unless there's some sort of "wink wink nudge nudge" going on with us and Southampton to get it past Newcastle. Quote
jim mk2 Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 36 minutes ago, BRFC_Polky said: https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/ireland-striker-michael-obafemi-closes-in-on-6m-move-to-blackburn-rovers-40733853.html I sincerely hope that it isn't true. Paying £6m would be a huge gamble. We grossly overpaid for Brereton and Gallagher but the club doesn't seem to learn from its past mistakes. In the past a player like Obafemi with multiple issues hanging over him would be a free transfer. Saints want Armstrong badly - for once the cards are in our favour and we should play it tough. 3 Quote
JacknOry Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 27 minutes ago, DavidMailsTightPerm said: This could be part of the Armstrong sweetener ie. Saints pay up his contract so he can accept lower salary at Rovers ? You would imagine that would be a part of it. Probably supplementing his salary over his contract. Quote
yankfan Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 This made me laugh. How rovers could line up Not a mention of him playing out of position…probably right back I’d guess Quote
JacknOry Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, yankfan said: This made me laugh. How rovers could line up Not a mention of him playing out of position…probably right back I’d guess He has BBD as a left midfielder even in a 4-4-2, is this guy Mowbray's son? 3 Quote
Backroom Tom Posted August 9, 2021 Backroom Posted August 9, 2021 Genuinely excited (not visually) at the prospect of Obafemi signing If what @Saints Fan is saying about high press being a strong point then he could be ideal for us in the middle It’s the kind of gamble I’d be jealous of similar clubs making rather than waiting on what loans we could land 4 Quote
briansol Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, jim mk2 said: I sincerely hope that it isn't true. Paying £6m would be a huge gamble. We grossly overpaid for Brereton and Gallagher but the club doesn't seem to learn from its past mistakes. In the past a player like Obafemi with multiple issues hanging over him would be a free transfer. Saints want Armstrong badly - for once the cards are in our favour and we should play it tough. Very certain we are not paying 6 million for him. My guess based on all noises and reports is: Soton is paying 15 mill + Obafemi (reported valued at 6 mill). If Obafemi doesn't come, Soton will have to pay extra (would guess that is more likely to be 2-3 mill) Regarding wages, I think a sign-on fee can be used to offsett Obafemi's current wages. I'll also add that of Obafemi has scored 4 goals in 9 starts. He has played 32 games, but 23 have been as a sub. 2 Quote
briansol Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, briansol said: Very certain we are not paying 6 million for him. My guess based on all noises and reports is: Soton is paying 15 mill + Obafemi (reported valued at 6 mill). If Obafemi doesn't come, Soton will have to pay extra (would guess that is more likely to be 2-3 mill) Regarding wages, I think a sign-on fee can be used to offsett Obafemi's current wages. I'll also add that of Obafemi has scored 4 goals in 9 starts. He has played 32 games, but 23 have been as a sub. I think Nixon is right on this one. 1 Quote
JacknOry Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 Looks good on video, but so do I if you just catch my best bits. Amount of times I nutmegged the fabulous Dave from the local, and buried it in the far corner after a deflection off my other mates nans nickers that somehow fell onto the pitch. I love his nans nickers! Still, looks decent and a potential replacement. Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 30 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: I can just see the Obafemi deal not materialising and us signing solely loans, with the money set aside for that deal never being seen again. Every probability that will be the case I fear. Quote
Guest Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 £6m on Obafemi just isn't value for money when you realise he's out of contract in the summer... He's going to be 4th choice at Saints. For me, we should make do with what we have until January and find something then. Probably get Obafemi at a third of that price with 5/6 months left on his deal. Quote
islander200 Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, briansol said: Very certain we are not paying 6 million for him. My guess based on all noises and reports is: Soton is paying 15 mill + Obafemi (reported valued at 6 mill). If Obafemi doesn't come, Soton will have to pay extra (would guess that is more likely to be 2-3 mill) Regarding wages, I think a sign-on fee can be used to offsett Obafemi's current wages. I'll also add that of Obafemi has scored 4 goals in 9 starts. He has played 32 games, but 23 have been as a sub. If that's the case then Armstrong can't put pen to paper until the Obafemi situation is resolved.Southampton will want Armstrong for the weekend so we shouldn't be waiting long to find out if Obafemi is coming here or not Quote
Bethnal Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 No better advert for BRFCS in “transfer mode” than me right now. This afternoon I was quietly commenting that there were question marks around Obafemi’s professionalism. I’ve read this thread today, watched one YouTube video and am now beginning to think £7m to kill the other interest is necessary. 4 Quote
JacknOry Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, JoeH said: £6m on Obafemi just isn't value for money when you realise he's out of contract in the summer... He's going to be 4th choice at Saints. For me, we should make do with what we have until January and find something then. Probably get Obafemi at a third of that price with 5/6 months left on his deal. if what Phil is saying is correct, it seems that if Obafemi doesn't come, that's 3 mill more from them, so would assume thats the valuation of the player. 18 mil - not what we all hoped, but its better than 15. Quote
roversfan99 Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, JoeH said: £6m on Obafemi just isn't value for money when you realise he's out of contract in the summer... He's going to be 4th choice at Saints. For me, we should make do with what we have until January and find something then. Probably get Obafemi at a third of that price with 5/6 months left on his deal. Without Armstrong we have nowhere near enough goals to sustain us and January is not a good time to do business. We need a permanent striker now whether its Obafemi or someone else. 2 Quote
JacknOry Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 Seems you cold on this fella Joe, tell us what you think. We spunked 7 mil on BB, if he is in that territory, then sure, we need to back off. Quote
neophox Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 Had Armstrong had two more years on his contract we could had got, £25m...this is pure mismanagement and somebody needs the sack for missi g out on*£10m... 3 Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, JoeH said: £6m on Obafemi just isn't value for money when you realise he's out of contract in the summer... He's going to be 4th choice at Saints. For me, we should make do with what we have until January and find something then. Probably get Obafemi at a third of that price with 5/6 months left on his deal. That would make no sense. Getting Obafemi at a knock down price is a no brainer. We need a striker in and he would suit our style. If he starts scoring regularly,happy days. If we don't sign him , someone else will. If Mowbray is given £3 million to invest otherwise, I don't think he will get someone as good. 1 Quote
Torgeir Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 A lot of negative guesses from the usual doom merchants in here. Let's see how the deal is structured before passing judgement, eh? Rovers were playing hardball with the fee and have managed to get teams bidding a substantial amount for an unproven player at the highest level with 12 months left of his contract. We need a direct replacement and Ewood should be an attractive proposition for Obafemi considering how Armstrong has matured his game under Mowbray. How they value Obafemi in this transaction is also to avoid leaving Newcastle with too much of the pie, so it doesn't matter if it's £3m or £6m as long as he ends up wearing the blue & white shirt in a few days. 8 Quote
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