jim mk2 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mike E said: Fair play then. We must've missed something when Kean was manager. Careful. You're not allowed to criticise the club 1 Quote
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lraC Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Butty said: I’m only 25 and this makes me feel old as f**k! Winning the prem days a bit before my time, my first season ticket was 02/03. Didn’t realise at the time how lucky I was as a kid!! Great days and some great memories under Souness Hughes and Big Sam. I dread to think what I am if you are old at 25. 1 Quote
Popular Post simongarnerisgod Posted August 16, 2021 Popular Post Posted August 16, 2021 1 minute ago, roversfan99 said: I was too young to fully appreciate the title win but still I grew up watching the likes of Tugay and Dunn every week. It is crazy that based on his age, he would have grown up watching players like Lee Williamson, Jason Lowe and Corry Evans. Thanks Venkys. williamson a cult hero by rugby tackling that dingle when he was clear on goal,his best contribution in a rovers shirt😅 12 Quote
islander200 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, Traviscon said: Liverpools article about his loan move here has him down as a rovers player between the ages of 4 and 9. The official Liverpool site has him down as joining the academy at 6 Quote
Admiral Nelsen Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Butty said: I’m only 25 and this makes me feel old as f**k! Winning the prem days a bit before my time, my first season ticket was 02/03. Didn’t realise at the time how lucky I was as a kid!! Great days and some great memories under Souness Hughes and Big Sam. I'm a few years older, but like you am not old enough to remember us being top dogs, much less appreciate it. Like others have said, fair play to him for still being a Rover after what we have subjected him to over the last ten years. I bet his best XI from since he started watching us is laughably poor. Give it a few weeks he might even be in it himself! 2 Quote
roversfan99 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said: The only way Mowbray's process makes sense is if Liverpool / Man City / Everton et al are paying US to take on their kids and give them game time. Y'know, use our Championship team as a testbed, but in the process help keep the lights on. Instead he uses loans to bolster his squad AT COST because he has no contacts in the game and is a terrible manager. To clarify, I share the feeling that a flurry of kids on loan deals is rather underwhelming. Indeed I would be amazed if this transfer window ends us being judged as anything other than desperately poor, with our best player leaving a huge void and experience replaced by inexperience. But it seems that based on Mowbrays interviews in the last few weeks, we are currently operating exclusively in the loan market because we cant afford anything else. He specifically said at the weekend that he would like experience but that will be impossible due to salary levels. Loaning players with the parent club footing the majority of the bill can be mutually beneficial if done correctly. We have had 4 players in the last 3 years that massively improved us to an extent that simply wouldnt have been possible if we wanted an equally effective player on a permanent basis. Indeed it was the rest of the puzzle being wrong that caused us to rot in mediocrity. Obviously the parent club then benefits from a player who has matured, indeed we have been on the other side of that process with Wharton, Lenihan, Raya etc. It is not just us at this level that looks to use the loan market, look at Norwich who were promoted last year with Skipp in midfield, or Swansea getting into the play offs in successive seasons with the likes of Guehi and Woodman being central to that. The risk perhaps falls in the lack of gametime making signing a loanee such a stab in the dark. The main argument against that I regularly see is that they will block the development of our own youngsters. It is something I disagree with, we should want to make the team better in the short term too, and that can be in tandem with our younger players, especially considering how light in numbers we are. 4 Quote
Butty Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, lraC said: I dread to think what I am if you are old at 25. Wiser 😉 1 Quote
islander200 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, jim mk2 said: Careful. You're not allowed to criticise the club Who said that? It's fine to criticise the club, just extremely odd to criticise when you don't have any idea what's gone on. Going off your posting history you get enjoyment out of it which is extremely odd 1 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted August 16, 2021 Moderation Lead Posted August 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Leonard Venkhater said: ..in a good way? Is there a bad way? 🤷♂️ Quote
Lucimo Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 43 minutes ago, den9112 said: A young Philipp Lahm .. Dont start with those comparisons, it reminds me of the bald c**t 1 Quote
Sparks Rover Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 Very underwhelming. If we couldn't get an 18 years old Rovers fan who used to live near Brockall, to come and play here on loan then we might aswell all pack up and go home. 🙄 the odds are he's more like that shit left back than the lad Harvey. Good luck to the lad like. 1 Quote
Iceman Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 Might as well change our name to Blackburn LOANvers 4 Quote
yeti-dog Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said: Very underwhelming. If we couldn't get an 18 years old Rovers fan who used to live near Brockall, to come and play here on loan then we might aswell all pack up and go home. 🙄 the odds are he's more like that shit left back than the lad Harvey. Good luck to the lad like. Typical churlish response from you. Even the 'good luck' at the end is done begrudgingly. 4 Quote
harryhealless1928 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 Really pleased weve got a lad in who actually wants to play in a Rovers shirt. We must be rivalling Burnley with the number of rejections we are getting currently. However that might work out well as less chance of a bunch of players with an attitude problem, I hope. Quote
jim mk2 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, islander200 said: Who said that? You did. Quote
Admiral Nelsen Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said: If we couldn't get an 18 years old Rovers fan who used to live near Brockall, to come and play here on loan then we might aswell all pack up and go home. 🙄 the odds are he's more like that shit left back than the lad Harvey. Good luck to the lad like. Genuine question, which shit left back? We've had about 7 in the last 5 years or so. 3 Quote
islander200 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, jim mk2 said: You did. No I didn't.I said criticising the club for something you don't know to be true is ridiculous. Plenty of legitimate reasons to call the club out on. You hadnt even heard of Clarkson last week and now you know the club made a ricket in not signing him up as a youngster.We have no idea what went on. Even if he was at the club although the official Liverpool site says he joined their academy at 6, it's hardly just cause to stick the boot in for the club not recognising he would make it by the age of 9.And as for the club losing out on many local top talents, name some from the last 30 years.Every club in the country has let a talent slip through their fingers every now and again 1 Quote
islander200 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Admiral Nelsen said: Genuine question, which shit left back? We've had about 7 in the last 5 years or so. Sam Hart he will be on about Quote
Bigdoggsteel Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said: Very underwhelming. If we couldn't get an 18 years old Rovers fan who used to live near Brockall, to come and play here on loan then we might aswell all pack up and go home. 🙄 the odds are he's more like that shit left back than the lad Harvey. Good luck to the lad like. Sam Hart didn't get anywhere near their first team. You surely know that. Quote
Backroom Mike E Posted August 16, 2021 Backroom Posted August 16, 2021 Jim, have I got this right? You don't think we're allowed to criticise the club for missing out on a player that you don't think is good enough? Quote
yeti-dog Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 Jim and Sparks...gotta love 'em. https://youtu.be/hjEwCWN9-gc Quote
rickard Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Mike E said: Fair play then. We must've missed something when Kean was manager. We missed a lot of things when Kean was manager... 😉 1 Quote
Paul Mellelieu Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 Obviously a good addition for. club that is struggling to sign good quality players. Quote
Torgeir Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 5 hours ago, tomphil said: The whole point is to grow the ones we have and grow as a team. You have to start somewhere and now is the time to do it. We need some depth for sure but we need to utilize what we have first. Second half Saturday we ended up with several attacking players on pressing Millwalls back line. It took going behind then fans getting restless for that to happen. It shouldn't have to be like that. We have the bodies he just needs to start using them properly and play our strengths. We can't employ a gung-ho strategy for 90 minutes each game, but in terms of tactics we had the wrong approach against Millwall by playing to their strenghts until we eventually adjusted. Could have been behind by a couple of goals by then and the game long gone. Introducing fresh legs helped, and I think the subs so far this season have picked up the gauntled and seem well up for it. I agree we shouldn't utilise the maximum amount of loans with the view to make an impact as starters, ideally I would want some hungry young permanent signings and a couple of veterans who still have the required drive. Armstrong will have to be replaced, and I think there's room for a central mid (now signed), a central defender, and a backup left back. Other than that we can wait and see, we have versatility with JRC coming back. 1 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted August 16, 2021 Moderation Lead Posted August 16, 2021 Hi Everyone, can we simmer down please? Any more comments about poster’s families or coaching abilities and you’ll be enjoying the sin bin. 6 Quote
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