Summer transfer window 2021.

[Bigdoggsteel]

2 minutes ago, Ulrich said:

Christ, someone with the latest FM could probably out do TM scouting wise.  

Or probably not

Some of you massively over play your ability to identify players. Here's another shock, Tony Mowbray is a better football manager than you. I hope you were sitting down for that one. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

Or probably not

Some of you massively over play your ability to identify players. Here's another shock, Tony Mowbray is a better football manager than you. I hope you were sitting down for that one. 

Well after signing Bell, Hart, Cunningham, Douglas, Pickering, the new lad ?  - I’m starting to wonder just what he’s looking for in a left back.

[rigger]

11 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

You don’t think Mowbray’s record of signings can’t be improved upon ? Fair enough but I beg to differ. You could count the number of real successes on the fingers of one hand.

But that as got nothing to do with someone making outlandish claims

[tomphil]

1 minute ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Well after signing Bell, Hart, Cunningham, Douglas, Pickering, the new lad ?  - I’m starting to wonder just what he’s looking for in a left back.

If he'd looked for one who could defend first and foremost we'd probably have had one in years ago.

Not the Mowbray way though that.

[JBiz]

6 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Notwithstanding your penchant for ridiculing posters with a different opinion to yourself, it is absolutely mental to be committing funds to a back up left back when we haven't even replaced Armstrong.

If a good, permanent, Armstrong replacement comes in as well as the second LB fair enough. 

If not.............

I would call going into a season with just one senior left full back in the squad “absolutely mental” personally 

I also think it’s ridiculous to come here talking about how “I’d do better”. 

Bit like me claiming to be a world class darter / lover, we all know I’m merely an expert of those things, no need to be big headed….

 

7 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

You don’t think Mowbray’s record of signings can’t be improved upon ? Fair enough but I beg to differ. You could count the number of real successes on the fingers of one hand.

I never said anything about Mowbrays record, If you want to, go get involved in scouting but posting on a forum about what you’re capable of in a multimillion industry is funny in my book.

Especially “you’d do better” without seeing them play.
 

Especially ignoring they’ve been reported to play further forward and in the centre also

Especially ignoring that we’ve literally one “senior” left back in the club who has 5 appearances at this level!

[Bigdoggsteel]

5 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Well after signing Bell, Hart, Cunningham, Douglas, Pickering, the new lad ?  - I’m starting to wonder just what he’s looking for in a left back.

Cunningham was decent, the manager can't prevent players getting injured. Didn't happen for Douglas, but again, not a bad player. Bit early and unfair to write Pickering off yet

Bell was shite and Hart was too, but he didn''t even play, was more a youth player 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

4 minutes ago, tomphil said:

If he'd looked for one who could defend first and foremost we'd probably have had one in years ago.

Not the Mowbray way though that.

He doesn’t know what he’s looking for because he still doesn’t know what system he wants to play. So he doesn’t know wether he wants a conventional full back or a wing back. 

[davulsukur]

Oliver Ntcham going to Swansea.

We were linked at one point.

[Miller11]

Pleased with Edun. Going with just one left back would’ve been really risky. Right age, small fee. I’d be happy enough taking a similar approach with a forward and expecting Brereton and Gallagher to step up this season.

I’d certainly prefer to spend less on a fee and wages and filter the money towards Nyambe and Rothwell.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

10 minutes ago, JBiz said:

I would call going into a season with just one senior left full back in the squad “absolutely mental” personally 

I also think it’s ridiculous to come here talking about how “I’d do better”. 

Bit like me claiming to be a world class darter / lover, we all know I’m merely an expert of those things, no need to be big headed….

 

I never said anything about Mowbrays record, If you want to, go get involved in scouting but posting on a forum about what you’re capable of in a multimillion industry is funny in my book.

Especially “you’d do better” without seeing them play.
 

Especially ignoring they’ve been reported to play further forward and in the centre also

Especially ignoring that we’ve literally one “senior” left back in the club who has 5 appearances at this level!

I used to go to games with a pal who was a scout for City back in the day. We’d gone watching a centre half  but another player caught my eye. So I wrote to the club about a left back I’d seen playing for Orient at Rochdale. He had it all and he was only a kid. He was called Denis Rofe, look him up, went on to play for Leicester in the old First Division and England at U-23 level I think.

The club chief scout wrote back to thank me but saying “ the player was already contracted to the Leyton Orient Club “ . I gave up after that.

Edited August 31, 2021 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[Ulrich]

15 minutes ago, rigger said:

But that as got nothing to do with someone making outlandish claims

It's just a flippant, throw-away comment, stop being so literal.  

[tomphil]

22 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

He doesn’t know what he’s looking for because he still doesn’t know what system he wants to play. So he doesn’t know wether he wants a conventional full back or a wing back. 

I think he does he's just never had the right personnel to play it or nous to get them. Certainly not at Championship level. Imo it's obvious he's always wanted a core style of 3 at the back with attacking wing backs.

Tried it wherever hes been and tried it here after relegation. I think if he could get away with it that's how he'd always go it's another never ending experiment of his. Now if he'd recruited for it from the very beginning we might have a system that works well by now.

Instead it's just the same old swap/change/shoehorn stuff and grab what you can who can play in several positions. One thing he isn't nor never has been here is a specialist recruiter. 

Edited August 31, 2021 by tomphil

[Ulrich]

Roberts not coming to rovers

[47er]

14 minutes ago, Ulrich said:

And yet Prem clubs often pay for the FM database prior to release, wonder why?

Given I've never been a football manager, the comparison is void as how can I be compared in a role I have never held?  Management wise, I'll wager I've achieved more in the industries I've worked in than TM, or you for that matter.

You don't like being challenged do you?  Everyone must agree with me, I'm Bigdoggsteel!  how narcissistic of you (Oh and I'm qualified to make that judgement!)

The point he's missing is ---we don't want the job, we know we couldn't do it but we do people who could do it better and we want one of them.

Same goes for Prime Minister.

[RevidgeBlue]

27 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Well after signing Bell, Hart, Cunningham, Douglas, Pickering, the new lad ?  - I’m starting to wonder just what he’s looking for in a left back.

One of the problems with Mowbray is he has always seemingly prioritised quantity over quality.

[Mercer]

Heard that Bolton in for Chapman.

[RevidgeBlue]

6 minutes ago, Ulrich said:

Roberts not coming to rovers

And so it begins.

[Blue blood]

40 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Or probably not

Some of you massively over play your ability to identify players.

Here's another shock, Tony Mowbray is a better football manager than you. I hope you were sitting down for that one. 

Thing is BDS my standards for a football manager are much higher than them being better than me. Same with doctors, vets, pilots to name a few other professions. All miles better than me at their roles but I still expect them to have a degree of competence way beyond my meagre abilities in these areas! 

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

you have no idea whats going on behind the scenes with deals and the recruitment set up.

You can't even explain why players you randomly said we should sign , would actually be good signings

Obafemi would be a coup for us and it seems most realise that. 

a coup? based a what? 6 goals in 40 first team appearances. 

and you know what is going on behind the scenes then? 

Already gave you the answer about the players Ive have suggested. How many times do I know to say it?

10 minutes ago, Ulrich said:

Roberts not coming to rovers

was never coming here. his wages are 60k a week

[pick32]

We’re we even in for Roberts after getting the Brighton lad, Dolan, Chapman, JRC, Diaz, Poveda, Butterworth all playing wide positions? Sounds like it was always a 3 club rule

[chaddyrovers]

Rich Sharpe 12pm update

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Heard that Bolton in for Chapman.

Would make sense. Always think its better for loan players to be at clubs not a million miles away. Less of an upheaval for them. Although in Harry's case I don't suppose he'll be coming back to Ewood at the end of it

[riverholmes]

47 minutes ago, tomphil said:

If he'd looked for one who could defend first and foremost we'd probably have had one in years ago.

Not the Mowbray way though that.

According to Imps fans on a messageboard, Tayo Edun is in the last year of his contract at Lincoln City and is one of their better players. Apparently, he's an attack minded left back whose weakness is the defensive side of his game - though, it has improved.

I'm surprised about this signing to spend this much money on two left backs, if it goes through. It reminds me of us spending money on goalies, Pears and Stergiakis, whilst bringing in loans and veteran freebies for more crucial areas. Sure, we need another left back, but the allocation of resources doesn't seem proportionate to the need - unless Mowbray is acknowledging that Pickering isn't performing to what he wants.

Edited August 31, 2021 by riverholmes

[rigger]

29 minutes ago, Ulrich said:

It's just a flippant, throw-away comment, stop being so literal.  

Is that your opinion, or do you know the poster. I do not see anything wrong with being literal. It is better than talking bullshit. I am not inferring that is what you do.

[Guest]

Just now, riverholmes said:

According to Imps fans on a messageboard, Tayo Edun is in the last year of his contract at Lincoln City and is one of their better players. Apparently, he's an attack minded left back whose weakness is the defensive side of his game - though, it has improved.

I'm surprised about this signing to spend this much money on a back-up. It reminds me of us spending money on Pears and Stergiakis, whilst bringing in loans and veteran freebies for more crucial areas. Sure, we need another left back, but the allocation of resources doesn't seem proportionate to the need. 

By the time Tayo Edun is fully fleshed out he'll be a central midfielder I think. That's the impression I'm getting from some of the chats I've had with Lincoln, Ipswich and Fulham people.