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[oneandycrawford]

  On 18/03/2025 at 08:09, Mattyblue said:

The horror of folk having a few beers in the vicinity at a weekend. 😱

Guess what residents there were pubs on every corner in residential areas like that not very long ago, the heart of the community.
 

NIMBY Britain.

 

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Agreed. And the ground was named after the pub it stood behind!

But people's behaviour was (generally) better then. I don't remember coming out of the pub - however pissed I was! - and making loads of noise in the way I hear it now. Additionally there is far more use of taxis now so much more and louder noise. 

I'm sure if Stanley have the right conversations with the council and put some mitigations in place around noise/times then a solution will be found. The direction from government is about prioritising economic growth and planning policies should reflect this.

 

Edited March 18 by oneandycrawford

[Mattyblue]

Councils rejecting licences is just the latest nail in the coffin for Britain's night time economy, which is struggling enough due to rents/rates, booze costs, general cultural/demographic change.

Read something the other day that a London council had rejected a late licence for a jazz club due to 'potential anti social behaviour'. Miles Davis fans scrapping with Duke Ellington fanboys, presumably...

Edited March 18 by Mattyblue

[speeeeeeedie]

  On 18/03/2025 at 12:27, oneandycrawford said:

Agreed. And the ground was named after the pub it stood behind!

But people's behaviour was (generally) better then. I don't remember coming out of the pub - however pissed I was! - and making loads of noise in the way I hear it now. Additionally there is far more use of taxis now so much more and louder noise. 

I'm sure if Stanley have the right conversations with the council and put some mitigations in place around noise/times then a solution will be found. The direction from government is about prioritising economic growth and planning policies should reflect this.

 

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Here's a summary of the situation; LT (formerly LET): Stanley to close function room @chaddyrovers

Stanley voluntarily closed it as they didn't like the conditions of operation offered to them by the council. 

Homeowners in the vicinity, who more than likely lived there before the facility was built (as it's not like the ground sits next to a new estate) probably got fed up with having to listen Sweet Caroline blaring out past midnight every weekend.

I assume that Stanely could fix this by refitting the building to accommodate adequate soundproofing so I don't know what Holt will gain by going public complaining about it. I doubt that the council will reconsider. 

[Upside Down]

  On 18/03/2025 at 12:34, Mattyblue said:

Councils rejecting licences is just the latest nail in the coffin for Britain's night time economy, which is struggling enough due to rents/rates, booze costs, general cultural/demographic change.

Read something the other day that a London council had rejected a late licence for a jazz club due to 'potential anti social behaviour'. Miles Davis fans scrapping with Duke Ellington fanboys, presumably...

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There's certainly a deliberate effort been made over the last 20 years at least to crush an and all nightlife and culture in Britain (with the exception of the most bourgeois establishments of course).

This however, is not the case. If you want to run a club, pub or whatever you need the appropriate paperwork.

Now, if it was a case that they'd applied and been rejected or had completely unreasonable conditions put on them then they'd have a foundation from which to complain. As it is Holt is just being his usual self, a screaming cock and balls.

I do love Duke Ellington but anyone who says he's better than Davis is getting slashed.

[chaddyrovers]

  On 18/03/2025 at 15:05, speeeeeeedie said:

Here's a summary of the situation; LT (formerly LET): Stanley to close function room @chaddyrovers

Stanley voluntarily closed it as they didn't like the conditions of operation offered to them by the council. 

Homeowners in the vicinity, who more than likely lived there before the facility was built (as it's not like the ground sits next to a new estate) probably got fed up with having to listen Sweet Caroline blaring out past midnight every weekend.

I assume that Stanely could fix this by refitting the building to accommodate adequate soundproofing so I don't know what Holt will gain by going public complaining about it. I doubt that the council will reconsider. 

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I know the situation, as I said earlier I live near the stadium and everything. Other family members live closer to the stadium. None bothered by it. 

A motion has been put for the next council meeting 

“Accrington Stanley is the lifeblood of our town.

We call upon the Council to provide a grant of £286,000 to the club from the General Reserves Fund, to assist in installing soundproofing within their venues.” 

Acccrington Stanley is our towns football club and the venue is a place many love and enjoy. A solution is needed and it’s one that we want to deliver, working with the controlling group. 

This isn’t about politics and we hope that this solution will move both the Council and the Club forward towards a positive relationship. 

Across many schemes to regenerate and rejuvenate our local area, the Council comes together with the private sector to create lasting change. We, as a Conservative Group, believe this to be a model that works in creating longer term prosperity and opportunity for all our residents. 

 

Many present and past examples exist. It was just a few days ago that Manchester United unveiled its proposals to build a new ground, and in doing so it requested public funding which was responded to positively by the Government. 

With that in mind, we are urging Hyndburn Council to provide a one-off package of support to Accrington Stanley Football Club, which alongside the huge multi-million investment that the club has already put in to the town, will protect Wham Stadium as one of our vital assets. 

We raise money from Council Tax to spend in the best interests of residents. It has always been clear to us the importance the Club holds in the Borough and the strength of feeling from residents. Our proposal is in recognition of the strong partnership the Council should have with the Club.

It doesn’t matter what’s happened beforehand. It’s about how move forward, working, investing together. This will provide a solution and allow the club to re-open and succeed. 

 

[chaddyrovers]

  On 18/03/2025 at 12:34, Mattyblue said:

Councils rejecting licences is just the latest nail in the coffin for Britain's night time economy, which is struggling enough due to rents/rates, booze costs, general cultural/demographic change.

Read something the other day that a London council had rejected a late licence for a jazz club due to 'potential anti social behaviour'. Miles Davis fans scrapping with Duke Ellington fanboys, presumably...

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Our country night life has gone now. 20 years it used to be great night out in most places, now it ain't worth it or too expensive or pubs that have closed down

[Wheelton Blue]

  On 18/03/2025 at 23:13, chaddyrovers said:

Our country night life has gone now. 20 years it used to be great night out in most places, now it ain't worth it or too expensive or pubs that have closed down

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Not in Chorley it hasn't.

[GHR]

  On 19/03/2025 at 09:51, Wheelton Blue said:

Not in Chorley it hasn't.

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Considering its modest size, Chorley is a superb town for drinking in. Puts places three or four times as big to absolute shame. With the exception of the Masons Arms, all within a drunken stagger of each other too! 

Noting your name, I am also fond of the Red Lion too. Less so that I once accidentally timed one visit with some folk club matinee gig.

Preston is also very good for ale. The Black Horse is utterly wonderful, a Desert Island disc of a place.

[speeeeeeedie]

  On 18/03/2025 at 23:12, chaddyrovers said:

I know the situation, as I said earlier I live near the stadium and everything. Other family members live closer to the stadium. None bothered by it. 

A motion has been put for the next council meeting 

“Accrington Stanley is the lifeblood of our town.

We call upon the Council to provide a grant of £286,000 to the club from the General Reserves Fund, to assist in installing soundproofing within their venues.” 

Acccrington Stanley is our towns football club and the venue is a place many love and enjoy. A solution is needed and it’s one that we want to deliver, working with the controlling group. 

This isn’t about politics and we hope that this solution will move both the Council and the Club forward towards a positive relationship. 

Across many schemes to regenerate and rejuvenate our local area, the Council comes together with the private sector to create lasting change. We, as a Conservative Group, believe this to be a model that works in creating longer term prosperity and opportunity for all our residents. 

 

Many present and past examples exist. It was just a few days ago that Manchester United unveiled its proposals to build a new ground, and in doing so it requested public funding which was responded to positively by the Government. 

With that in mind, we are urging Hyndburn Council to provide a one-off package of support to Accrington Stanley Football Club, which alongside the huge multi-million investment that the club has already put in to the town, will protect Wham Stadium as one of our vital assets. 

We raise money from Council Tax to spend in the best interests of residents. It has always been clear to us the importance the Club holds in the Borough and the strength of feeling from residents. Our proposal is in recognition of the strong partnership the Council should have with the Club.

It doesn’t matter what’s happened beforehand. It’s about how move forward, working, investing together. This will provide a solution and allow the club to re-open and succeed. 

 

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Thanks for this. There are a lot of spurious claims in that statement.

It's a tricky spot to be in. Stanley are mad that a large revenue stream has at least temporarily dried up and the council being an easy target gets the blame, but asking them provide the funding to retrofit the venue that the club built without correct planning permission in the name of regeneration and rejuvenation comes up short for me.

What community benefit is there for a private function room? it's no different than any other venue that hires itself out for functions. 

Stanely are using the fact that they are a football club to seek to gain favour for a non-football revenue stream within the overall club. Would the council give money to a cricket or golf club under the same circumstances? I doubt it.

There is a different discussion to be had if the club cannot survive without it. 

[Ossydave]

  On 18/03/2025 at 23:13, chaddyrovers said:

Our country night life has gone now. 20 years it used to be great night out in most places, now it ain't worth it or too expensive or pubs that have closed down

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What a ridiculous comment, but not surprising. 

Step outside your bubble, you're clearly commenting on the nightlife on your doorstep. Get out a bit more, do some travel and you'll realise the nightlife hasn't 'gone' everywhere in the country at all.

[Mattyblue]

Nightlife has changed. Young people just don’t sup the same, nightclubs have collapsed. But on the flip side micro pubs/craft beer/micro breweries have boomed.

Day drinking over the old ‘I’ll meet you at half 8’ too.…

Which all works for me as a beer hipster who ain’t 21 anymore 😅🍻

Edited Thursday at 10:35 by Mattyblue

[chaddyrovers]

  On 20/03/2025 at 08:48, Mattyblue said:

Nightlife has changed. Young people must don’t sup the same, nightclubs have collapsed. But on the flip side micro pubs/craft beer/micro breweries have boomed.

Day drinking over the old ‘I’ll meet you at half 8’ too.…

Which all works for me as a beef hipster who ain’t 21 anymore 😅🍻

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Yes it has changed from 20 years ago to now. Plus I have changed. Got a missus now and different type of lifestyle from free and single 

I remember going out on Saturday dinner time watching all the football and few beers and food then straight out on a night out till 4am Sunday morning then home with kebab or pizza