Steve Waggott

[Mattyblue]

Think you can if you have a ‘membership scheme’. I.e members pay £15, ‘non members’ (I.e Dingles) £30.

Sure I’ve seen it elsewhere.

[Mike E]

On 27/02/2023 at 16:16, Mattyblue said:

Yes, I’m very positive as the majority of my posts show, and as I want the club to be the best it can be it needs calling out when the commercial side of the club makes poor decision after poor decision.

This is another, £10 offers are finite before you start getting the backs up of ST holders/undervaluing STs, so you need to pick the right match, and this is completely the wrong choice of game (as Niko above has also explained), and I’ll say so despite being tarred with tiresome ‘negative’/‘positive’ crap, cheers.

To a point, but I've never heard anyone complain about others getting £10 tickets. Not once.

Reckon you could do it 6 times before undercutting STs. Another advantage of cheaper STs = more £10 games = more marketing opportunities and more people to see them.

[Oldgregg86]

I don’t care what other people pay I just want a full ewood and abit of atmosphere 

[Mattyblue]

So do I, but I have often heard rumblings around me from other ST holders if 3/4 offers occur in a short period of time… ‘no point buying a season ticket’ etc.

[rigger]

3 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

So do I, but I have often heard rumblings around me from other ST holders if 3/4 offers occur in a short period of time… ‘no point buying a season ticket’ etc.

If it bothers them that much, they should just not buy a season ticket.

[Upside Down]

Oohhh heavens forbid we can't have cheap tickets. That would allow some of the undesirables into the ground. Because the game hasn't been gentrified enough apparently.

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, rigger said:

If it bothers them that much, they should just not buy a season ticket.

Your season ticket holders are the ones you turn up each and every home league game. They are the hard-core of the fan base who will buy ST every season

[rigger]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Your season ticket holders are the ones you turn up each and every home league game. They are the hard-core of the fan base who will buy ST every season

But they don't all, turn up each and every home league game.

[Andy]

If our Marketing / Sales team have absolutely any commercial sense - and want to help the team on the pitch - now is the time to fill the stadium for the run-in.

Momentum is with us; a full (or fuller) Ewood could literally be the difference for us.

[tomphil]

This season has presented 4 local opportunities for possible 20k plus crowds at Ewood priced and marketed correctly.

Only one will possibly pass that and that all depends on what they get given.

Pathetic running of the club.

Edited February 28, 2023 by tomphil

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, rigger said:

But they don't all, turn up each and every home league game.

Maybe some don't, but most(95%) do where I sit in BBE every home league game. 

Rovers should be making used of the current momentum by every home game now until end of the season through different ticket prices 

Edited February 28, 2023 by chaddyrovers

[superniko]

6 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Think you can if you have a ‘membership scheme’. I.e members pay £15, ‘non members’ (I.e Dingles) £30.

Sure I’ve seen it elsewhere.

Bristol City I think, someone posted a photo of it when we played them. £15 for members or something. 

[JHRover]

10 hours ago, bluebruce said:

 

Also, you can't charge away fans double what you charge home fans. I think you can't charge them more than your lowest priced equivalent seats.

You can.

Bristol City did it the other week. They charged home fans £15 for their game v Norwich and charged Norwich fans £33. That one is just an excuse for not dropping home prices.

There's nothing stopping us doing the same for the Burnley game. Of course there might be trouble - its a derby game. Only way to remove that risk is to shut the ground altogether.

[bluebruce]

17 minutes ago, JHRover said:

You can.

Bristol City did it the other week. They charged home fans £15 for their game v Norwich and charged Norwich fans £33. That one is just an excuse for not dropping home prices.

There's nothing stopping us doing the same for the Burnley game. Of course there might be trouble - its a derby game. Only way to remove that risk is to shut the ground altogether.

Maybe through a membership scheme as MattyBlue said, or multi game packages etc. But if you can just outright charge more on general sale for equivalent seats without a sneaky trick, then the rules have changed in recent years.

I wasn't talking about 'might' be trouble, there might be trouble at literally any match, even a pub team game. I'm talking about seriously increasing the risk of thousands of people kicking each other's heads in, in a game which already requires a police presence. Do we want even stricter policies on these derbies in future if that happens? Do we want to risk someone dying just to shift a few more tickets? Do we want to double our future policing bill for it, wiping out the benefit of more ticket sales? Nobody is saying close the ground for it (might not have a choice next time though if there's too much trouble). There's putting on a match for the football lovers in the area, and then there's irresponsibly asking for trouble from tons of meat heads only there to kick off.

[Upside Down]

Hmmm a membership scheme...

If only we had something like that. Hey, why don't we call it 1875 or something like that? 

[roversfan99]

On 09/08/2021 at 19:10, 1864roverite said:

Guilty of gross incompetence. His idea of commercialism at the club is shockingly poor. His management and leadership abilities are seriously lacking. His planning, forethought and inability to plan are non existent. His visionary ability isn’t there whilst basic common sense in respect of building the club along with the support is just a fucking complete nonsense. That’s about it in a nutshell I want him out of my club and at the earliest opportunity. Donald Duck and the muppet show would do a better job🤬

Following your return to the board so you still stand by the above comments?

[1864roverite]

I’ve never been away just watching from afar with far more important things to be concerned about.

Things I have written I have done so because they were my views. I know about things behind the scenes, plans, thoughts and the likes and I know my current viewpoint.

I still would like changes behind the scenes however I have altered my views on him and the commercial aspect within the club but don’t get me wrong there is still a long way to go to satisfy a complete change of mind.

[Mattyblue]

So what has improved commercially?

[Upside Down]

I read the above comment. 

I mean,  talk about hitting the nail on the head. 

[roversfan99]

It just seems very cryptic and absent in detail. To call someone a "maggot" and to say that Donald Duck could do better is even beyond a professional judgement, I have always seen him as incompetent but I would probably stop short at going that far.

It would take a hell of a lot to have such a changearound in opinion, yet as Mattyblue asks, what has changed commercially?

[Upside Down]

It's the clear and obvious contemp he shows regularly toward the fans. I mean £430 for a season ticket in the Riverside. In Blackburn. During a cost of living crisis.

[Mattyblue]

Maybe that’s the improvement he is talking about, we had 8k buying at those prices, now we have 9k and Swag hit his bonus.

Doubles all round when he next visits his office…

[philipl]

Problem of a rock

Rovers are in a tiny impoverished town surrounded by other clubs and 3 of the 7 biggest brands in global football within 35 miles of Ewood.

And hard place

Rovers are perennially at the FFP ceiling requiring revenue to be raised to be able to increase the budget.

So Waggott has to optimise income to create budget more than a case of Pune being short on funds for the club.

Which means any drop in prices HAS to be compensated by a larger than offsetting increase in gate size.

We probably need 26,000 on against Reading to make a permanent low ticket price a serious proposition. 

Not impossible. We had 26,000 on against Oxford in League One.

Average attendance was 26,000 less than 20 years ago.

[Mattyblue]

The average gate was 26k the year this lot bought the club.

 

You aren’t getting close to that kind of crowd for a Wednesday night game in March against an opposition who’ll bring 400. You would need 17,000 walk ons!

Now if they’d chosen the game against a play off rival on Good Friday, that would’ve been a totally different issue…

Edited March 5, 2023 by Mattyblue

[tomphil]

Sponsorship is an obvious way to increase ways to bring in a serious amount to a club that has always and will always have trouble increasing gate revenue.

We had for instance a large local company sponsoring a stand once over, i'm not a fan of stadium naming rights but i'm told Bolton have got 3 million for their latest Breezebloc deal. 

Often we've been told the owners have more than enough spare cash for Rovers but getting it into the club is difficult because of FFP.  Could they not set up another or use one of their multitude of companies to sponsor a stand and stick in another million to offset a radical serious push to increase crowds ?

How serious are they about that ?  Because when it's left to Waggot and co all they are bothered about is hitting their own targets to justify their own position and probably a bonus. They probably see no need to invite extra pressure onto themselves by thinking out of the box when their brass is guaranteed just for hitting or nearly hitting a specific  £ number.

Edited March 5, 2023 by tomphil