rigger Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, damo100 said: Genuine question to all members in this group. Do you think Steve Waggot gets an easy ride in the Fans Forum meetings, or are the minutes edited by the club to serve purpose? When is this bullshit going to end, when is Waggot going to retire? As long as the FF members are not disagreeing with the edited minutes, I have to assume that they agree with them. That would lead to me thinking, Waggot is, given an easy ride. Edited June 3, 2023 by rigger Quote
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wilsdenrover Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) Is this man the real saviour of English football? - I think we all know the answer! (article from 2008): https://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/34577/Is-this-man-the-real-saviour-of-English-football Please try to not piss yourself laughing and/or pull your hair out in a rage… Edited June 3, 2023 by wilsdenrover Quote
jim mk2 Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 Looks like we're lucky to have Mr Waggott running our illustrious football club. Rovers fans are so ungrateful Quote
imy9 Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: Is this man the real saviour of English football? - I think we all know the answer! (article from 2008): https://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/34577/Is-this-man-the-real-saviour-of-English-football Please try to not piss yourself laughing and/or pull your hair out in a rage… Ok… so am I missing something? Lots of outreach work at Charlton, players going to hospitals on their days off, making the club the hub of the community. 15 years is a long time in football but clearly he is not an evil man and we have done plenty within the community over the last few years for which I’m sure Waggott will take some credit. (Tin Hat on) Quote
wilsdenrover Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 1 minute ago, imy9 said: Ok… so am I missing something? Lots of outreach work at Charlton, players going to hospitals on their days off, making the club the hub of the community. 15 years is a long time in football but clearly he is not an evil man and we have done plenty within the community over the last few years for which I’m sure Waggott will take some credit. (Tin Hat on) Unless SW was taking credit for someone else’s (at Charlton) ideas and initiatives… Quote
Mattyblue Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) Who says he’s evil? He’s just lazy and in his comfort zone due to somehow finding a way of hitting his ‘revenue targets’ even with a two thirds empty ground. Not a surprise he ‘leads’ in this fashion. It all emanates from disinterested and distant ownership. Edited June 3, 2023 by Mattyblue Quote
J*B Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 I don’t think he’s evil at all. I think he’s ambition-less, has a total lack of understanding about the area and chooses the easy route every single time — even if that means he rips off the fans. 5 Quote
Mattyblue Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 Ambitious when it comes to his own career, as he is making serious coin as CEO at a prestigious football club, coin way over his abilities - the Peter Principle hasn’t kicked in here. But yes, zero ambition for Blackburn Rovers. Quote
Upside Down Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 He's not evil, absolutely ridiculous. Unless there are some stories out there about him torturing employees and the like..... He's simply a lazy, incompetent self serving piece of human garbage. A total drain on society. Quote
lraC Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Upside Down said: He's not evil, absolutely ridiculous. Unless there are some stories out there about him torturing employees and the like..... He's simply a lazy, incompetent self serving piece of human garbage. A total drain on society. I have some Christmas cards for sale. Let me know if you need a special one. 2 Quote
Wheelton Blue Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 Chalk and cheese. https://www.burndenaces.co.uk/2023/06/01/bolton-ceo-details-major-changes-for-summer-ahead.html Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 19 hours ago, wilsdenrover said: Is this man the real saviour of English football? - I think we all know the answer! (article from 2008): https://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/34577/Is-this-man-the-real-saviour-of-English-football Please try to not piss yourself laughing and/or pull your hair out in a rage I'll asky Andy C if he agrees, time is a healer ..... 1 Quote
Wheelton Blue Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) From that article... '"If you lose touch with grassroots and community are you a real football club or are you a business?' Oh, the irony. Edited June 4, 2023 by Wheelton Blue 6 Quote
Sweaty Gussets Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 20 hours ago, wilsdenrover said: Is this man the real saviour of English football? - I think we all know the answer! (article from 2008): https://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/34577/Is-this-man-the-real-saviour-of-English-football Please try to not piss yourself laughing and/or pull your hair out in a rage… Ticket prices are kept low so local people can afford to come to matches and experience live football. Steve adds: "It stops people watching on TV from their armchair and gets them watching live matches. “Football has a responsibility to make the next generation of fans.” Lucky Charlton. It's a different Steve these days. 5 Quote
tomphil Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 He's in a borough of 150k now not one of 300k or a city of 400k with one team, something he struggles to come to terms with beyond fleecing 8 thousand diehards. 1 Quote
bluebruce Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 2 hours ago, tomphil said: He's in a borough of 150k now not one of 300k or a city of 400k with one team, something he struggles to come to terms with beyond fleecing 8 thousand diehards. I remember Williams saying many years ago they always knew they could charge more or less whatever they wanted to about 8 thousand hardcore (I think 8 thousand was the figure he used). But he knew that wasn't the way to grow the football club. 4 Quote
Mattyblue Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) I’ve told this story mannnyyy times, but I actually got that from the horses mouth. On his first day at the club in ‘97, the board told JW that ‘we have 8,000 fans’, he didn’t understand the point considering we had 25,000+ average gates at the time. They meant 8k will always turn up, the rest you have to fight bloody hard to keep in the tent, and he never forgot that lesson - Swag never bothered to learn it in the first place. Edited June 4, 2023 by Mattyblue 3 Quote
tomphil Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 I think he decided that was the case straight away and has stuck to that theory and that is the problem. The guy is just a number cruncher whose always been employed at decent sized clubs going backwards. He fits that well but if you want to move forwards off the pitch as well as on it he clearly isn't the man. 1 Quote
glen9mullan Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 Without fans, there is no job for waggott, no club to support and no national game. To be the CEO of a football club and to have supporters attending as one of the lowest points on the agenda is pathetic Rovers has become a place for a cosey job, where the lack of income is offset by the owners. Who in the right mind (players) wants to play in a ground less than 33% full? Whats the pull? Its a slow death only kept on life support by the generosity of the Raos. I'd love to know what the business plan is, what waggotts 3 , 6, 12 month plan was, what his 2, 3 and 5 year plan is? Losing supporters is the worse thing for a club like ours. You very rarely get them back , especially when those im power show zero desire to do so. All i see going forwards is a few chancers waiting to suck on the bones which are left, with a club/board not held accountable for its piss poor management 5 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 1 hour ago, glen9mullan said: Without fans, there is no job for waggott, no club to support and no national game. To be the CEO of a football club and to have supporters attending as one of the lowest points on the agenda is pathetic Rovers has become a place for a cosey job, where the lack of income is offset by the owners. Who in the right mind (players) wants to play in a ground less than 33% full? Whats the pull? Its a slow death only kept on life support by the generosity of the Raos. I'd love to know what the business plan is, what waggotts 3 , 6, 12 month plan was, what his 2, 3 and 5 year plan is? Losing supporters is the worse thing for a club like ours. You very rarely get them back , especially when those im power show zero desire to do so. All i see going forwards is a few chancers waiting to suck on the bones which are left, with a club/board not held accountable for its piss poor management Glen, Didn't you send an email to the owners? did you get any response from that? Quote
Upside Down Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 8 hours ago, glen9mullan said: Without fans, there is no job for waggott, no club to support and no national game. To be the CEO of a football club and to have supporters attending as one of the lowest points on the agenda is pathetic Rovers has become a place for a cosey job, where the lack of income is offset by the owners. Who in the right mind (players) wants to play in a ground less than 33% full? Whats the pull? Its a slow death only kept on life support by the generosity of the Raos. I'd love to know what the business plan is, what waggotts 3 , 6, 12 month plan was, what his 2, 3 and 5 year plan is? Losing supporters is the worse thing for a club like ours. You very rarely get them back , especially when those im power show zero desire to do so. All i see going forwards is a few chancers waiting to suck on the bones which are left, with a club/board not held accountable for its piss poor management I wouldn't call it generosity, its like someone's just run you over but they were kind enough to call an ambulance for you before they drove off. 3 Quote
Backroom DE. Posted June 5, 2023 Backroom Posted June 5, 2023 It'd be like calling parents generous for feeding their child. They own the club, it's their responsibility to ensure it functions. Doing so doesn't make them generous, irrespective of how many owners fail to meet this basic requirement. 9 Quote
roverblue Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 On 04/06/2023 at 09:21, Wheelton Blue said: Chalk and cheese. https://www.burndenaces.co.uk/2023/06/01/bolton-ceo-details-major-changes-for-summer-ahead.html Wi-Fi connectivity?!? You mean Bolton fans can actually use their phones to check the scores or line ups in the ground? Holy shit! 9 Quote
damo100 Posted June 9, 2023 Author Posted June 9, 2023 Do any of our members in this group know when Swag is retiring? Be a joyful day when he does. Quote
MarkBRFC Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 38 minutes ago, damo100 said: Do any of our members in this group know when Swag is retiring? Be a joyful day when he does. Why would he give this gig up? Quote
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