RevidgeBlue Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 1 hour ago, matt83 said: What do folk reckon are waggotts top 5 fuck ups since being at rovers. Putting up prices by up to 25% during a pandemic for a season where no-one could attend and reducing the season ticket base by 70%. The underhand and eventually aborted attempt to flog off Brockhall. Failing to tie down the likes of Brereton/Rothwell/Nyambe/Lenihan O Brien plus embarking on an appeal we had no chance of winning. Mcguire 1 Quote
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damo100 Posted February 8, 2024 Author Posted February 8, 2024 1 hour ago, Mattyblue said: ‘Eco Day’ or whatever the fuck it was called. Blackburn End closure Scrapping the programme Allowing a LFC night at Ewood Park THE BUS Brockhall attempted bulldozing Removing the history murals The potential Tony Parkes tribute being kicked into the Ewood weeds. Running out of kit for months on end each season (mascots even having to come dressed in their own or they can’t be one) Only being able to attract a vape company literally down the road as sponsor Match day surcharge Category A+ ticketing (soon shelved) 1875 club (to cynically cash in on folk worrying about getting Dingle tickets or other small away allocations, no surprise sales of it have tanked this season) Doing absolutely nothing post Oxford to tap into the fanbase Hiking up prices post pandemic as pretty much every other club went the other way. Probably loads more and some are more cynical rip offs than out and out fuck ups, but all point to a spiv a million miles out of his depth. In a nutshell. It all became apparent for me very soon after the Oxford game. He's had an easy ride till now. When he goes, for me it will be up there with the Kean departure day. Dislike that guy with a passion and pretty much agree with all your points. 2 Quote
roversfan99 Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 (edited) 16 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Putting up prices by up to 25% during a pandemic for a season where no-one could attend and reducing the season ticket base by 70%. The underhand and eventually aborted attempt to flog off Brockhall. Failing to tie down the likes of Brereton/Rothwell/Nyambe/Lenihan O Brien plus embarking on an appeal we had no chance of winning. Mcguire The costly aspect of the Brereton and Rothwell situations was down to the owners rejecting £12m for them combined. Much of the stuff about things like attendances etc is certainly on the money though. The sad thing is he is here for the duration under Venkys. Edited February 8, 2024 by roversfan99 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 Actually ....admitting in public the Club put no pressure on results might be up there as well..... and putting out a statement the other weekthat we were financially secure without the Wharton money might turn out to be one of his biggest whoppers if not fuck ups. 2 Quote
Backroom Mike E Posted February 8, 2024 Backroom Posted February 8, 2024 Failing to capitalise on potential Indian (Venkys) and Chilean (Brereton Diaz) marketing opportunities. 3 Quote
windymiller7 Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 Thought that the chants on Sat were perfect. Maggot & Wankies getting it in equal measure. He's here, sat there & feels the heat. Illustrated by today's goings on, he's going through pampers at a fair old rate of knots! But also, we're not letting the Knuts in India think we've forgotten where the problems really lie. 2 Quote
philipl Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 (edited) It is all pretty damned obvious. JDT and Swag relationship broke down. Became a he goes or I go stand off. Swag blocks JDT speaking out. McGuire got blocked in Venkys compound because there is no certainty the Judge will ok the next cash transfer following the Wharton sale. Ennis sale unblocked McGuire deal so JDT prevailed So Swag saved rather than sent the registration to screw it up. After last January's cock up, the CEO had to have his finger on a deal as big as this. JDT predictably melts down Swag "accepts" resignation saving compensation Swag tries to get players and fans on board criticising Ennis sale Swag accepts retirements of Cheston and Silvester Swag has Suhail on board and Venkys face a fait accompli of Swag last man standing Greg Broughton isolated and will probably be forced out on pretext of fall guy for McGuire Swag gets control over the football side again which is what he has run his mouth about previously. I have no inside This is speculation But I can read folk playing politics and setting up a palace coup. Edited February 8, 2024 by philipl 8 Quote
Upside Down Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 As much as I loathe this wretched individual, our efforts now must be 100% aimed at the Raos. Maggot is nothing other than a shield for them. We target Suhail on the ground and the Raos online and in the media. We present the cold hard facts as they are. They have nowhere to hide from the facts. 1 Quote
philipl Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 (edited) Just seen that Waggott is reliably reported to have delayed the Adam Wharton paperwork to beyond the deadline leading to Palace being horrified by our unprofessionalism. Doesn't exempt Venkys from criticism but Swag has exploited their hands off style to his advantage. The Wharton paperwork story points to Waggott being the villain in screwing up McGuire and probably the two failed transfers last January in a failed attempt to get Broughton out and giving Waggott sole control over everything. If the Wharton deal failed, fans are delighted to have Adam back, Venkys still pump the cash in in March. Fan protests would be muted, Broughton certainly goes as the fall guy and Swag rules. Edited February 8, 2024 by philipl 1 Quote
Upside Down Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 46 minutes ago, philipl said: Just seen that Waggott is reliably reported to have delayed the Adam Wharton paperwork to beyond the deadline leading to Palace being horrified by our unprofessionalism. Doesn't exempt Venkys from criticism but Swag has exploited their hands off style to his advantage. The Wharton paperwork story points to Waggott being the villain in screwing up McGuire and probably the two failed transfers last January in a failed attempt to get Broughton out and giving Waggott sole control over everything. If the Wharton deal failed, fans are delighted to have Adam back, Venkys still pump the cash in in March. Fan protests would be muted, Broughton certainly goes as the fall guy and Swag rules. He's a puppet acting under orders. Delay the Wharton transfer to give an excuse that we didn't have enough time to sign anyone else. Fuck the McGuire paperwork up to stop the transfer. We already know the owners put a stop to money being spent. If he's really done all of this off his own back then why hasn't he been fired? He's shielding the owners. The Raos are the ones to target. 3 Quote
matt83 Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 5 hours ago, Mattyblue said: ‘Eco Day’ or whatever the fuck it was called. Blackburn End closure Scrapping the programme Allowing a LFC night at Ewood Park THE BUS Brockhall attempted bulldozing Removing the history murals The potential Tony Parkes tribute being kicked into the Ewood weeds. Running out of kit for months on end each season (mascots even having to come dressed in their own or they can’t be one) Only being able to attract a vape company literally down the road as sponsor Match day surcharge Category A+ ticketing (soon shelved) 1875 club (to cynically cash in on folk worrying about getting Dingle tickets or other small away allocations, no surprise sales of it have tanked this season) Doing absolutely nothing post Oxford to tap into the fanbase Hiking up prices post pandemic as pretty much every other club went the other way. Probably loads more and some are more cynical rip offs than out and out fuck ups, but all point to a spiv a million miles out of his depth. I’d forgotten about some of those for me. Annual season ticket fiasco not understanding his customers of not caring the now annual transfer fuck ups Training ground Tgeyre the ones that a ceo should be fired on the spot for. Quote
Roverthechimp Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 7 hours ago, Mattyblue said: The fact that they are the ‘leadership group’ sums up the state the squad has been allowed to get in to. This may be the group most opposed to JDT tactics and training demands. If they have been complaining/communicating with SW then it would be difficult for them to say no to this idiotic meeting. This is pure speculation but with the recent rumblings of discontent in the dressing room it would make sense Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted February 8, 2024 Moderation Lead Posted February 8, 2024 1 hour ago, philipl said: Just seen that Waggott is reliably reported to have delayed the Adam Wharton paperwork to beyond the deadline leading to Palace being horrified by our unprofessionalism. Doesn't exempt Venkys from criticism but Swag has exploited their hands off style to his advantage. The Wharton paperwork story points to Waggott being the villain in screwing up McGuire and probably the two failed transfers last January in a failed attempt to get Broughton out and giving Waggott sole control over everything. If the Wharton deal failed, fans are delighted to have Adam back, Venkys still pump the cash in in March. Fan protests would be muted, Broughton certainly goes as the fall guy and Swag rules. Where’ve you seen this, re the Wharton paperwork? 1 Quote
philipl Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 (edited) 10 minutes ago, K-Hod said: Where’ve you seen this, re the Wharton paperwork? On the transfer thread 8 hours ago, NeilInBristol said: All rovers.. Waggot slowing the deal down wouldn't surprise me. I believe he was responsible for our drop in form last season, being as leaky as an old fat man with incontinence, when he should have been shielding the squad when we had a chance of the play offs. And of course the buck stops with him over O'Brien which would have certainly got us at least an extra point. A complete and utter bastard. Edited February 8, 2024 by philipl 3 Quote
philipl Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 44 minutes ago, Upside Down said: He's a puppet acting under orders. Delay the Wharton transfer to give an excuse that we didn't have enough time to sign anyone else. Fuck the McGuire paperwork up to stop the transfer. We already know the owners put a stop to money being spent. If he's really done all of this off his own back then why hasn't he been fired? He's shielding the owners. The Raos are the ones to target. The reason I think you are wrong with regards to Swag as the Venky's puppet in all this is the bizarre circumstances last weekend. If you stop the Manager talking it is because you have sacked him. Then JDT took charge of the QPR game. Why? That smacks of Swag being stopped from sacking JDT and that order to stop it can only have come from Pune overriding SWAG. 1 Quote
Upside Down Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 1 minute ago, philipl said: The reason I think you are wrong with regards to Swag as the Venky's puppet in all this is the bizarre circumstances last weekend. If you stop the Manager talking it is because you have sacked him. Then JDT took charge of the QPR game. Why? That smacks of Swag being stopped from sacking JDT and that order to stop it can only have come from Pune overriding SWAG. He's a puppet. Nothing more. The Raos are 100% responsible for all of this. Raos out now! Quote
philipl Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 Just now, Upside Down said: He's a puppet. Nothing more. The Raos are 100% responsible for all of this. Raos out now! Too simple. Don't underestimate the ability of snakes to take advantage of chaos caused by the ownership. There were multiple villains back in 2010-2012. It is naive to assume there aren't more than one villain pursuing their own separate agendas now. Quote
Upside Down Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 7 minutes ago, philipl said: Too simple. Don't underestimate the ability of snakes to take advantage of chaos caused by the ownership. There were multiple villains back in 2010-2012. It is naive to assume there aren't more than one villain pursuing their own separate agendas now. And what is the one constant in all of this? Quote
NeilInBristol Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 46 minutes ago, philipl said: On the transfer thread 8 hours ago, NeilInBristol said: All rovers.. Waggot slowing the deal down wouldn't surprise me. I believe he was responsible for our drop in form last season, being as leaky as an old fat man with incontinence, when he should have been shielding the squad when we had a chance of the play offs. And of course the buck stops with him over O'Brien which would have certainly got us at least an extra point. A complete and utter bastard. Haha yeah. I just thought it was worth checking out when he was appointed! 2017... The club have been without a chief executive since Paul Hunt left the role in 2012. Shebby Singh served as a global advisor between 2012 and 2013, while Suhail Pasha is now responsible for communications between Ewood Park and the Venky family in India. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11676/11176653/steve-waggott-named-blackburn-chief-executive Quote
matt83 Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 3 hours ago, windymiller7 said: Thought that the chants on Sat were perfect. Maggot & Wankies getting it in equal measure. He's here, sat there & feels the heat. Illustrated by today's goings on, he's going through pampers at a fair old rate of knots! But also, we're not letting the Knuts in India think we've forgotten where the problems really lie. Swag is only interested in one thing self preservation. It’ll take the most naive fan to not believe that the timing of this ‘not so secret meeting’ was immediately after he’d heard his name ringing out of the Blackburn end. Hes panicked and now trying to deflect on the fans, on the players, on the manager, on his boardroom cronies, whoever. The saddest thing we have a sizeable element who will just lap up everything he’s peddling. 3 Quote
KentExile Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, NeilInBristol said: The club have been without a chief executive since Paul Hunt left the role in 2012. Shebby Singh served as a global advisor between 2012 and 2013, while Suhail Pasha is now responsible for running interference between Ewood Park and the Venky family in India. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11676/11176653/steve-waggott-named-blackburn-chief-executive Fixed it for you Edited February 8, 2024 by KentExile 2 Quote
J*B Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 3 hours ago, philipl said: On the transfer thread 8 hours ago, NeilInBristol said: All rovers.. Waggot slowing the deal down wouldn't surprise me. I believe he was responsible for our drop in form last season, being as leaky as an old fat man with incontinence, when he should have been shielding the squad when we had a chance of the play offs. And of course the buck stops with him over O'Brien which would have certainly got us at least an extra point. A complete and utter bastard. Ignore the vast majority of this imo. 1 Quote
Paul Mellelieu Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 Just spotted on X that Watford's CEO is paid close to £1m a year..... 1 Quote
Upside Down Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 2 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said: Just spotted on X that Watford's CEO is paid close to £1m a year..... Is he a real CEO or a fake one like ours? Quote
lraC Posted February 8, 2024 Posted February 8, 2024 4 hours ago, philipl said: Just seen that Waggott is reliably reported to have delayed the Adam Wharton paperwork to beyond the deadline leading to Palace being horrified by our unprofessionalism. Doesn't exempt Venkys from criticism but Swag has exploited their hands off style to his advantage. The Wharton paperwork story points to Waggott being the villain in screwing up McGuire and probably the two failed transfers last January in a failed attempt to get Broughton out and giving Waggott sole control over everything. If the Wharton deal failed, fans are delighted to have Adam back, Venkys still pump the cash in in March. Fan protests would be muted, Broughton certainly goes as the fall guy and Swag rules. I have serious reservations about the funds being released in March. When I had my meeting with Waggott in November, he was cock sure that a precedent had been set and for that reason, was almost guaranteeing the funds will be in the bank in February. Well they aren't and although the adjournment may well be due to court pressures, I have this sneaky feeling that the ED investigations, are more serious than some people are making out. Before the season started, it seems to have been dressed up as Indian tax changes, but not that looks like a cover up, as admitting there were being investigated would not have come out, had it not been spotted by an eagle eyed fan. 4 Quote
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