West Brom Preview

[AllRoverAsia]

3 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I suspect Carter might get a game even if Nyambe is fit so we have another big lad to deal with the throw ins.

And a good Ref because West Brown take obstruction to new levels as those throws come in.

[Mattyblue]

43 minutes ago, Gav said:

Todays Blackburn Rovers simply can't compete with the likes of the West Brom and Fulham's of this world

Imagine expecting to one day be saying that as this lot rocked up…

Edited August 20, 2021 by Mattyblue

[Bigdoggsteel]

8 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Imagine expecting to one day be saying that as this lot rocked up…

Or Brentford 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

4 hours ago, iacok said:

Think it was the early eighties. Most blatant penalty not given. Think it was Miller scythed down in the  box!

West Midlands police at their worst as I remember. Know we're at home on Sat 1-1.

Most blatant penalty not given in my book was Parker on Jason Wilcox at Old Trafford when we were winning 1-0 and it would have been a red card as well. I have a long memory and that was just one of a long series of bad decisions we got against the Red Rats.

[roversfan99]

Assuming that Nyambe is out:

Kaminski

Carter Lenihan Ayala Pickering

Travis Clarkson

Chapman Rothwell Brereton

Gallagher

I think Clarkson should be brought in to help Travis deeper, and give Rothwell more license to support Gallagher who has to be central. Chapman deserves a start over Dolan who again was anonymous the other night.

[Gav]

3 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Most blatant penalty not given in my book was Parker on Jason Wilcox at Old Trafford when we were winning 1-0 and it would have been a red card as well. I have a long memory and that was just one of a long series of bad decisions we got against the Red Rats.

Most blatant dive for a penalty ever, El Haj Diouff at Ewood for Bolton, Allardyce subbed him straight after, I'm still fuming…

I'm having palpitations now.....cheating swine.

Edited August 20, 2021 by Gav

[simongarnerisgod]

9 hours ago, iacok said:

Think it was the early eighties. Most blatant penalty not given. Think it was Miller scythed down in the  box!

West Midlands police at their worst as I remember. Know we're at home on Sat 1-1.

i remember one monday night game at west brom and the west midlands police made the coach park about 2 miles from the bloody ground,bearing in mind this was a monday night with 1 barely full coach they made a great scene of escorting us to the hawthorns,they even made one poor chap,who was nothing to do with us,think he was going to the shop,walk along with us,despite his accent and protestations that he was a walsall fan it cut no ice with them and after one to many laments,he was bundled into the back of a police van!!!!!!,still shouting "im`e a bloody walsall fan"

[Sparks Rover]

6 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

i remember one monday night game at west brom and the west midlands police made the coach park about 2 miles from the bloody ground,bearing in mind this was a monday night with 1 barely full coach they made a great scene of escorting us to the hawthorns

And when you come out they make you go down that bloody hill and back round, adding about a mile and half to the walk....tossers

[simongarnerisgod]

9 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

And when you come out they make you go down that bloody hill and back round, adding about a mile and half to the walk....tossers

don`t know why they hate football fans,it`s the same at wolves,birmingham and villa🤔

[pick32]

West Brom are evens cash in people 

[tomphil]

8 hours ago, Gav said:

Todays Blackburn Rovers simply can't compete with the likes of the West Brom and Fulham's of this world, clubs awash with Premiership money and much better players. We along with the rest of the Championship are fighting it out every season for a couple of play off places, thats the reality in my opinion.

I don't like tipping us to lose, we've had a great start to the season, confidence is high and the managers on a roll.

1-1 being optimistic - @Sparks Rover may for once get closer to the real result.

It's 11 v 11 it's one game so yes we can compete, don't be sounding like our er...leader.

That's attitude you need now in our position and its been missing far too long. This is a young fearless team going off what we've seen so far. We don't want anymore of this oh we only lost 1 nil to a good side so we are happy nonsense again.

We are underdogs and we are best that way we are used to it so i don't buy the sob story, sorry. 

Apart from that though i agree over the season you'd expect WBA to be contending top spot.  And any kind of non defeat tomorrow we'll grab with both hands. If we had a quid for every team walking this league that should have done we'd be doing ok.

Get into em !!!!

 

[davulsukur]

Definitely going to be a tough one but with us still being relatively injury free, we need to keep grinding out the points whilst the starting 11 is good before the injuries start to bite.

Can't see past a loss but after the Forest game, a battling draw could be on the cards.

[m1st]

On 18/08/2021 at 23:04, Mike E said:

Club history

The West Bromwich Football Club as we know it today, played its first match against Hudsons FC on 23 November 1878. Borrowing a ball from another local club they drew 0-0 in front of a handful of enthralled spectators, beginning a tradition of dull as f*** football that continues to this day.

Ten months later, on 20 September 1879, West Bromwich Strollers were formed as an official club by a group of workers from the George Salter Spring Works, many of whom participated in the initial Hudsons match. These men from Salters, still without a ball between them (heehee) went to the nearest shop that sold footballs, in Wednesbury, where there were already the three flourishing clubs; The Old Athletic, another Strollers by coincidence and Elwells.

 

Cooper’s Hill, a roughly triangular shaped piece of wasteland inspiring Tony Mowbray's modern 'tactics', and Dartmouth Park were alternately used. The players would carry a pair of portable goalposts with them because they were never quite sure where they would kick off. Hence the name Strollers. The first formally recorded match, as Strollers, was played on 13th December 1879 against Black Lake Victoria at Dartmouth Park and was won 1-0.

Soon the name Strollers was thought to sound too casual so they changed it to West Bromwich Albion in 1880. The suffix was derived from an old foundry district in West Bromwich of the same name, where several of the members lived. The support for the Albion was such that paying spectators demanded to be entertained, for which purpose an enclosed ground was required. This was found on Bunn’s Field, also known as 'The Birches', located off Wallsall Street. With the still growing support Albion were in need of yet another venue. Four Acres became their new home in 1882.

 

Despite a staggering 16,393 crowd in 1885 for the visit of our beloved Blackburn Rovers, West Bromwich Albion had eventually outgrown Four Acres and 'Strolled on' again, this time to Stoney Lane, only a short walk from the club’s previous grounds. By 1900 Stoney Lane had degenerated to such an extent that it had become one of the worst in the First Division, attendances had slumped to around 6,000, and the club faced a financial crisis. Another move was thought best for the revival of the club’ s fortunes.

When the board took out an option on a 10 acre site, West Bromwich Albion found their permanent home at the now familiar The Hawthorns. So-called because the club’s secretary, Frank Heaven, had discovered that hawthorn bushes had flourished in the surrounding area at one time. To this day, the Hawthorns remains the highest football ground in England above sea level! It was also, incidentally, the first ground to successfully implement electronic turnstiles.

 

The new ground brought with it the team nickname The Throstles, the Black Country word for Thrush, commonly seen in the hawthorn bushes from which the ‘ground’ took its name. My dad reckons, after chatting to Eric Morecambe in the 70s, that this nickname was the inspiration for one of his longest running gags. For example:

'Have you got the Throstles?'

'No, I always walk like this!'

The joke was the oft repeated with potentially funny sounding words greeted by the same punchline; 'Have you got the sprockets/scrolls or other word topical to one of Ernie Wise's 'Plays what I wrote'.

For many years a thrush ‘lived’ at the ground in a wooden cage which was hung above the player’s tunnel. Later the club had a replica of a large thrush perched on top of the half-time scoreboard at the uncovered Woodman Paddock. It also inspired the design of the official club badge, with a throstle, perched on a branch, depicted on a background of the blue and white club colours.

 

West Bromwich Albion have alternatiely used the throstle and the town’s first coat of arms as their insignia. The arms were granted in 1882 and except the millrinds, which represent the iron and brass foundries, the items are all derived from the arms, crest and supporters of the Earls of Dartmouth, who were formerly seated at Sandwell Hall. The ostrich feathers in the crest, nowadays associated with the Heir Apparent, were introduced into English royal heraldry by Edward III, who probably derived it from his wife, Philippa of Hainault. They represent willing obedience and derenity. The shield with the stag’s head is charged with blue stars and fleurs-de-lys alluding to the sparkling water of Sandwell Spa.

 

Less readily explained than the crest is the nickname 'The Baggies'. It is a mystery defying a solution; we do not know what to believe but you will enjoy whatever version. In its early days The Hawthorns had only two entrances, one behind each goal. On match days the gatekeepers would gather up the takings at each end and be escorted by policemen along the sides of the pitch to the centre line where there was a small office under the stand. The gate money, mostly in pennies, amounted to a considerable sum and was carried in large cloth bags. It wasn’t long before some wag in the crowd started shouting “here come the bag men!” at their appearance in front of the main stand, and this developed into a chant of “here come the Baggies!”, giving the team its unnofficial nickname.

Another version claims that in early days of the club’s history, many of the supporters worked in the local ironworks and because of the intense heat, tended to wear very loose, baggy clothing. Since most of them would go straight to the match after work, it resulted in a very oddly attired bunch standing on the terraces at the Hawthorns, and led to the nickname of ‘Baggies’.

A more surprising idea? The name Baggies was given to Albion’s ironworker fans by Villa supporters. They used to put on their moleskin trousers on Saturday afternoons, with belts worn instead of braces, and periodically they would give a sailor’s hitch to their unmentionables when they began to sag over their boots. When Albion and Villa clashed at the old Perry Bar Ground large numbers of Albion fans walked to the game. The ironworkers kept together in groups, many of them with their trousers at three quarters mast, and when near the ground, they were greeted with cries of `Here come the Baggies of Bromwich'”

Finally, all labourers in the Black Country wore trousers from a thick material called `duck’. When new, it was snow white, but with frequent washing went a dark hue. When repairs were necessary, at knees and back, the dark trousers were repaired with snowy white `duck’. This gave a bulky appearance to the patch, so labourers with these patches were generally called Baggies, as they looked like flour bags, and hence the taunt from Villa supporters back in the old days...

 

Random fact: West Brom full back George Shaw was the last player born in the 19th century to earn an England cap.

 

Celebrity fans:

Eric Clapton, Frank Skinner, Adrian Chiles, Lenny Henry, Joe Lycett, Liam Payne. Probably others?

Previous Meetings:

I honestly can't remember very many. I vaguely recall Keith Andrews scoring a fantastic volley against them once?

Shared players:

Mowbray (ugh), Reid, and I'm sure a great many others.

Current form:

7pts from 9, rather like us! They've just swept promotion favourites Sheffield United aside 4-0, so not expecting an easy game!

Standout players:

You'll have to forgive my ignorance.

Prediction:

Dunno. Loss?

 

What an absolutely superb opening post, @Mike E; thanks for it.

[m1st]

On 19/08/2021 at 14:29, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Did it earn us a point?

I saw what you did there, @Wing Wizard Windy Miller

Very clever! 😂

[Mike E]

Anyone else feeling a Preview?

https://www.brfcs.com/forums/topic/35034-match-previews-are-back-and-theyre-live/

[arealbrfcfan]

Call me crazy but I have a feeling we will win this. We havent really started scoring yet so we might put in a few soon.

Yes WBA and Fulham are the big balls with their parachute payments (for being exeptionally crap in the prem), what makes you think they will win every game they play? If we have a team spirit like Wednesday, who knows?!

 

End of the day it's 11 vs 11 and on the day. If Taco Ferreira can be spurs we can beat West Brom.

[Sparks Rover]

56 minutes ago, starscascade said:

Call me crazy but I have a feeling we will win this. We havent really started scoring yet so we might put in a few soon.

Yes WBA and Fulham are the big balls with their parachute payments (for being exeptionally crap in the prem), what makes you think they will win every game they play? If we have a team spirit like Wednesday, who knows?!

 

End of the day it's 11 vs 11 and on the day. If Taco Ferreira can be spurs we can beat West Brom.

Crazy bugger

[Reddiebaggie]

Reddiebaggie

Love to see so much loyalty and optimism, and as a few said it’s 11 v 11. In spite of the score line, I didn’t think we played that well against the Blades, hope we improve today.

[47er]

2 hours ago, starscascade said:

We havent really started scoring yet

Because none of our forwards can shoot. We've created the chances.

[RevidgeBlue]

23 hours ago, Gav said:

Todays Blackburn Rovers simply can't compete with the likes of the West Brom and Fulham's of this world, clubs awash with Premiership money and much better players. We along with the rest of the Championship are fighting it out every season for a couple of play off places, thats the reality in my opinion.

I don't like tipping us to lose, we've had a great start to the season, confidence is high and the managers on a roll.

1-1 being optimistic - @Sparks Rover may for once get closer to the real result.

Absolute rubbish about not being able to compete with WBA Gav, yes you would expect them to finish above us over the course of the season but they're not by any means Citeh or Barcelona at their best, over 90 mins with us being at home it should be a fairly even game and anything could happen.

You're right about us theoretically being in the running for two or three playoff places but unfortunately there's no danger of that with Mowbray at the helm is there?

Along with a few others, looking forward to this more than for quite a long time.

1-1.

[Gav]

44 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Absolute rubbish about not being able to compete with WBA Gav, yes you would expect them to finish above us over the course of the season but they're not by any means Citeh or Barcelona at their best, over 90 mins with us being at home it should be a fairly even game and anything could happen.

You're right about us theoretically being in the running for two or three playoff places but unfortunately there's no danger of that with Mowbray at the helm is there?

 

The point, which you've agreed with, was we can't compete over a season with recently relegated Premiership clubs awash with Sky money.

I can only assume you've started in the blues bar sooner than normal Rev.

Venkys Out - Think bigger picture.

[TruRover]

Interested in what our starting 11 will be today. With Nymabe out and Pike playing for the under23s last night it looks impossible for us to line up with 3/5 at the back, which is how I expected us to approach this game.

[Fraserkirky]

He might put Travis at right wing back, and bring in Davenport or Clarkson.

[simongarnerisgod]

10 minutes ago, Fraserkirky said:

He might put Travis at right wing back, and bring in Davenport or Clarkson.

not sure id`e be doing that,travis might have many good points but he is`nt the quickest,west brom do everything at 100mph,he`d be exposed out wide

[CambridgeRover]

One change, Dolan out Clarkson in for his debut

No idea what the formation is 

Edited August 21, 2021 by CambridgeRover