England

[roversfan99]

Just now, simongarnerisgod said:

he`s so concerned with not losing that his various formations mean the team can`t gel and get an understanding with each other,quite why you get so concerned about facing hungary at home is only a question he can answer,iv`e said it before,southgate is just a posh mowbray,terrified of attacking,positive football

His starting lineup was quite attacking to be fair. Grealish, Sterling, Kane, Foden and Mount all starting.

[K-Hod]

31 minutes ago, AspRover said:

All these creative players and no movement for them to pick out.

Also really struggling to work out how Sancho is so far behind Saka in the pecking order. Did he run over southgates dog or something?

Probs because he’s been gash for his club.

[Sparks Rover]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

His starting lineup was quite attacking to be fair. Grealish, Sterling, Kane, Foden and Mount all starting.

With no idea how to blend them all

[AspRover]

6 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Probs because he’s been gash for his club.

He spent two seasons wrecking the bundesliga whilst Saka was turning out for Arsenal u23s, bad start to this season sure but he was behind Saka at the Euros. 

[simongarnerisgod]

8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

His starting lineup was quite attacking to be fair. Grealish, Sterling, Kane, Foden and Mount all starting.

yes,but they did`nt do much attacking,with a starting line up like that we should have ripped into the hungers and had the game won by half time

[roverandout]

Without reading people's wiffle waffle my take is this...

 

For all southgate's qualities tactics and in game management ain't one of them. Grealish looked our biggest threat. Foden and him our most technical players so he takes Grealish off for saka who is only effective when he gets spaces. Henderson comes on who has zero creativity instead of bringing on another forward because you know we need a goal. Mings offers nothing apart from safety. Maguire is a huge miss as he is aggressive and brings the ball forward. Its time to can kane for a couple of matches and see what Greenwood can do. Sterling is so hot and cold and he's been mostly cold lately. Southgate has cost us 4 points in the last two games v Poland and Hungary because of his lack of and incomprehensible substitutions. Albania will be a big game next Month

[roverandout]

Kane looks finished at the moment.  Hes carried spurs for so long. Hes a goal threat but now is the time to bring Greenwood back in as hes our most natural finisher. Forget the past

[K-Hod]

11 minutes ago, AspRover said:

He spent two seasons wrecking the bundesliga whilst Saka was turning out for Arsenal u23s, bad start to this season sure but he was behind Saka at the Euros. 

I absolutely agree that he’s a better player than Saka, but I think he needs to either get his act together, or be managed better at club level.

[Sparks Rover]

1 hour ago, AspRover said:

He spent two seasons wrecking the bundesliga whilst Saka was turning out for Arsenal u23s, bad start to this season sure but he was behind Saka at the Euros. 

I've never once seen sancho have a good game.  Haven't got a clue what the fuss is about, looks chubby and lacking ideas. Utd might be the wrong place, needs to be at a west ham to get him going.

I'd have saka anytime before him as it stands.

Edited October 12, 2021 by Sparks Rover

[Oldgregg86]

10 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

I've never once seen sancho have a good game.  Haven't got a clue what the fuss is about, looks chubby and lacking ideas. Utd might be the wrong place, needs to be at a west ham to get him going.

I'd have saka anytime before him as it stands.

Hear he was incredible in Germany and tore the Bundesliga up. I've yet to see him in an England or united shirt do anything of note. I even watched him a dozen times at city and saw nothing. 

[Southside Rover]

A lot of people won't have seen Sancho have a good game unless they watch a lot of bundesliga where he was excellent. Most of all fearless which is not replicated in an England or United shirt so far. I do think he had a good game against Ukraine in the Euros though.

I was pleasantly surprised to see the lineup but for me I will never understand the Grealish sub. For me he is one of the first names on the teamsheet for the threat he carries and Southgate is right, he needs to add goals.

Taking him off made no sense. Saka is so similar to Sterling and with Sterling poor, that was the change to make if it weren't to be Sancho.

Kane is a threat but so poor so far this season, so off his game and rightly subbed. Abraham has been ok for Roma but the squad lacked a real threat to Kanes position.

Regardless of the penalty I thought Shaw was poor for most of the night and I think Chilwell should have been given a chance to change it round.

A frustrating night and it's now much closer than it should be.

[Sparks Rover]

1 hour ago, Southside Rover said:

I was pleasantly surprised to see the lineup but for me I will never understand the Grealish sub. For me he is one of the first names on the teamsheet for the threat he carries and Southgate is right, he needs to add goals.

Taking him off made no sense.

Grealish isn't properly in Southgate's get along gang I don't think. 

How Mings gets anywhere near the squad is amazing 

[riverholmes]

One-cap England wonder quiz on BBC features five ex-Rovers players. I managed to name 12/20: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58845403

One of the clues refers to a midfielder who should avoid rabonas...

 

[DeeCee]

1 hour ago, riverholmes said:

One-cap England wonder quiz on BBC features five ex-Rovers players. I managed to name 12/20: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58845403

One of the clues refers to a midfielder who should avoid rabonas...

 

Dunno who you mean?

Edited November 7, 2021 by DeeCee

[Gav]

Good to see Rovers shirts on the longside tonight watching England, pity the locals can’t be arsed turning out, embarrassing.

[speeeeeeedie]

The last gasp Poland equaliser means that England need 4 points from 2 games to qualify for Qatar.

Albania today and San Marino last. 

It should be a formality. 

[rigger]

Come on Moldova.

[tomphil]

22 hours ago, Gav said:

Good to see Rovers shirts on the longside tonight watching England, pity the locals can’t be arsed turning out, embarrassing.

It's the most passionate footballing town in England though ?

[simongarnerisgod]

On 13/10/2021 at 23:56, Sparks Rover said:

Grealish isn't properly in Southgate's get along gang I don't think. 

How Mings gets anywhere near the squad is amazing 

southgate loves his two holding midfielders,mavericks types like grealish certainly don`t appeal to him,he disrupts the machine  and more than likely he can`t find a way to get the best out of him,kalvin phillips(the premierships corry evans)he gets picked despite not actually doing anything and john stones,he`s not played a first team game all season,are shocking inclusions

[roversfan99]

Southgate boring everyone further in the international break with 2 holding midfielders in front of a back 5 against Albania.

[simongarnerisgod]

the mighty albania scaring southgate witless!!!!!,call me old school but should`nt you pick most of your best players,if you can`t find a system to accomodate them you should`nt be managing the national side,he`s got a hell of a lot of talent available to him at the moment,the best squad since 2002,terry,ferdinand,lampard  etc,he should be using them in an attacking system

[Darrenbot]

18 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Southgate boring everyone further in the international break with 2 holding midfielders in front of a back 5 against Albania.

I think i'll give it a miss looking at that formation.

[The Mighty Chaffinch]

He tried playing all his creative players against Hungary and it left us vulnerable through the middle. Albania are a much better side than the last time we faced them. Chilwell and James will offer us plenty going forward so I’m happy with Phillips and Henderson starting. Plenty to come off the bench if needed 

Edited November 12, 2021 by The Mighty Chaffinch

[oldjamfan1]

What is it with England playing in blue at Wembley FFS?

[matt83]

8 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

What is it with England playing in blue at Wembley FFS?

Flog a few shirts. All about £££££ these days.