AllRoverAsia Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 Keep Kane on and he is set to beat 5 in a game. Hell he might even catch up to Rooney! 2 Quote
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speeeeeeedie Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 It is pointless but if there is a preliminary qualifying group San Marino would finish bottom of that too. How would that group fit in with the schedule? They'd have to play more matches just to get into a group then more than likely would be the whipping boys all over again. The pitch is a mess too. Quote
Backroom Silas Posted November 15, 2021 Backroom Posted November 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Totally pointless. So let's go for the record to show the farce up for what it is. Was 2008 qualification that Germany beat them 13-0. Let's go for 14/15 here, get the record, and maybe force FIFA to have a rethink. 2 Quote
roverandout Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 How is this game pointless. Its a qualifier to qualify for a world cup. Quote
oldjamfan1 Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, jim mk2 said: Kane hat-trick against Albania and now San Marino...... might I suggest the goals don't count towards his England tally as the opposition wasn't worthy of international football? 1 minute ago, Displaced Rover said: Overtaking some genuine greats of the game (Greaves/Lineker) by scoring against a pub side. There should be pre qualifying below a certain world ranking threshold. Do you not think that the Greaves of this world would have had a few ‘free hits’ as well? I remember England dicking Turkey 8 or 9 nil away not that long ago (Robson era maybe?). I do agree about the prequalifying though. 1 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted November 15, 2021 Moderation Lead Posted November 15, 2021 Always nice to see us win, but apart from a nice ego boost by playing against part timers, I’m really not sure what else we gain from these matches. 2 Quote
roversfan99 Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, roverandout said: How is this game pointless. Its a qualifier to qualify for a world cup. Playing against opposition who arent close to even being competitive. Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted November 15, 2021 Author Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said: Do you not think that the Greaves of this world would have had a few ‘free hits’ as well? I remember England dicking Turkey 8 or 9 nil away not that long ago (Robson era maybe?). I do agree about the prequalifying though. Yeah Jimmy got to fill his boots against Scotland in that 9-3 dicking a few years ago. Edited November 15, 2021 by Tyrone Shoelaces 1 Quote
matt83 Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 22 minutes ago, speeeeeeedie said: It is pointless but if there is a preliminary qualifying group San Marino would finish bottom of that too. How would that group fit in with the schedule? They'd have to play more matches just to get into a group then more than likely would be the whipping boys all over again. The pitch is a mess too. I reckon they should play preliminary games to get into real qualifiers during major tournaments. So as the top sides playing in the euros/world cup the least crap of the dregs win the right to get battered as per usual. Quote
jim mk2 Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) This is awful, embarrassing. This isn't international football, or any sort of competitive football. Comparisons to the Greaves era are wrong too.... he never played against any team as poor as this Edited November 15, 2021 by jim mk2 1 Quote
oldjamfan1 Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, jim mk2 said: This is awful, embarrassing. This isn't international football, or any sort of competitive football. Comparisons to the Greaves era are wrong too.... he never played against any team as poor as this To be fair nor would he have been substituted on the hour mark after scoring three and four in consecutive games! Edited November 15, 2021 by oldjamfan1 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 hungary beat el salvador 10-0 in the world cup once Quote
Backroom Silas Posted November 15, 2021 Backroom Posted November 15, 2021 Weak 2nd half, Southgate out!! Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 itv commentator going full on southgate fan boy,a vintage performance apparently🤣 Quote
speeeeeeedie Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 Northern Ireland 0-0 Italy. Italy to the playoffs as the Swiss beat Bulgaria 4-0. Quote
roverandout Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 Past England teams would have laboured to a 5-0 win. This England team is ruthless. 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 San Marino have only won one game in their entire history, a 1 nil friendly win over Lichenstein. Had we won 20 nil it still wouldnt have been impressive. I do wonder if next time we play such opposition, whether Southgate should pick a team of League 2 and Conference players. Wed still batter them but it would send a message to UEFA, these games shouldnt be taking place without pre qualification. 6 Quote
roverandout Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: San Marino have only won one game in their entire history, a 1 nil friendly win over Lichenstein. Had we won 20 nil it still wouldnt have been impressive. I do wonder if next time we play such opposition, whether Southgate should pick a team of League 2 and Conference players. Wed still batter them but it would send a message to UEFA, these games shouldnt be taking place without pre qualification. A 10-0 win is impressive . Not many teams score double figures against them. It's about how this group of players are more relentless than previous squads. We're top scorers in qualifying. One of the best defensive records. We are missing about 6 or 7 high class players. I would rather be us than Portugal or Italy struggling against teams that are inferior. Quote
roversfan99 Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, roverandout said: A 10-0 win is impressive . Not many teams score double figures against them. It's about how this group of players are more relentless than previous squads. We're top scorers in qualifying. One of the best defensive records. We are missing about 6 or 7 high class players. I would rather be us than Portugal or Italy struggling against teams that are inferior. Both of those countries have won major tournaments in the last 5 years. I wasnt remotely impressed by us winning 10 nil or indeed 5 nil last time we played them, it is a waste of time playing against a team who had to use their annual leave from their random jobs to play tonight, 5 or 10 goals is an irrelevance. Obviously our team full of players playing at the highest level were going to batter them, if we could only use Conference players and below we would still win comfortably. Literally nothing can be learnt from tonights game. 1 Quote
Mattyblue Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 9 hours ago, roverandout said: Past England teams would have laboured to a 5-0 win. This England team is ruthless. The fact any team ‘laboured’ to a mere FIVE NIL win tells you how daft it is having sides like this in the competition. 3 Quote
JacknOry Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 Most of Rooney's international goals came in qualifying groups too - its making these players out to be better than they are compared to other greats of the past. Quote
Kie_BRFC Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, JacknOry said: Most of Rooney's international goals came in qualifying groups too - its making these players out to be better than they are compared to other greats of the past. Kane's got a very good tournament record to be fair 2 Quote
JacknOry Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Kie_BRFC said: Kane's got a very good tournament record to be fair Yeah he does, but goals in these non-event qualifying games against plumbers and teachers should not count. Edited November 16, 2021 by JacknOry Quote
roverandout Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 How many goals has ronaldo scored against these teams? Lewondovski? Without these sorts of sides players wouldn't break records 3 Quote
roverandout Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, JacknOry said: Most of Rooney's international goals came in qualifying groups too - its making these players out to be better than they are compared to other greats of the past. Lineker scored goals against Turkey. In those days Turkey were a very poor side. Nowadays alot better like most smaller nations. The level of football has improved significantly in the last 30 years. So it evens itself out Quote
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