England

[roverandout]

8 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Should get Sterling off, bring on Toney on to play in a two with Kane and drop Foden into central midfield.

Its so daft the 343. The wing backs can't get forward because they are crowded out by their own wide forwards.

Go 352 and everyone's a winner. We get an extra centre mid to compete. Kane gets a partner to help get the ball to stick, and the wing backs have the room to bomb on.

Toney not in 23

[roverandout]

Southgate doing his usual non sub routine

[roverandout]

Absolute horseshit

[Proudtobeblue&white]

We are regressing.

 

[joey_big_nose]

3 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Toney not in 23

Assumed he was... Abraham then obvious choice.

[Mattyblue]

It’ll be reight, we’ve been told for decades that it’s tired bodies in June that costs us, so a mid season tournament will see us walk it…

[roverandout]

Southgate the most unreactive or proactive coach in England's history 

[Hasta]

4 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Does it, how? How is this any different than just organising a friendly with Italy?

 

Because at least they are competitive.  You forget how shite firendlies were when they passed around the back for 60 minutes and then changed 10 players.

Id rather not break up the football season for internationals, but if we do, this is far better than playing Costa Rica or Mali in a friendly. It also grounds the ‘hype’ that England are great.

Edited September 24, 2022 by Hasta

[roverandout]

Walker is clearly not fit. He hadn't played hardly for city with his injury so it was always going to be a risk 

[joey_big_nose]

The lineup and non subs suggests to me this was England's first XI.

Just gone 4231. Don't really see how that helps us?

[joey_big_nose]

To be fair we look immediately a lot better ..

[Mattyblue]

5 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Because at least they are competitive.  You forget how shite firendlies were when they passed around the back for 60 minutes and then changed 10 players.

Id rather not break up the football season for internationals, but if we do this is far better than playing Costa Rica or Mali in a friendly. It also grounds the ‘hype’ that England are great.

Not sure what I’m supposed to be seeing that makes it any different to if friendlies were just organised with teams like Italy or Germany. And as for subs, you can make just as many in these games.

UEFA can call them ‘competitive’ all they like and can provide a naff little trophy that is awarded after a convoluted set of games taking about 18 months, but as the players and managers themselves only see them as glorified friendlies, they simply aren’t.

Edited September 23, 2022 by Mattyblue

[1864roverite]

If Southgate thinks this is preparing for the World Cup then we are in the first plane home, it truly is fucking awful

[Hasta]

5 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Not sure what I’m supposed to be seeing that makes it any different to if friendlies were just organised with teams like Italy or Germany. And as for subs, you can make just as many in these games.

UEFA can call them ‘competitive’ all they like, but as the players and managers themselves only see them as glorified friendlies, they simply aren’t.

You tell Hungary tonight that they’ve just won a few friendlies. 

You can tell they are more competitive than friendlies because we are getting rolled over in them.

How many subs have there been in this game so far? 12? 15? 18? Nope, just 5 for both teams combined.  No team in any game in our group has made more than 5 subs in any match.

Edited September 23, 2022 by Hasta

[Mattyblue]

Friendlies are now also five. Plus, we’ve lost plenty of friendlies away from home against teams like this.

If you think they are ‘competitive’ and mean something, fair enough. But in reality the whole ‘league’ and who played who, who won it will all be forgotten by this time next year. Whilst the WC/Euros go into folklore. That’s just the structure of international football, everything builds up to those tournaments, this means very, very little.

Edited September 23, 2022 by Mattyblue

[Darrenbot]

Anybody who thinks we have a smidgen of a chance at the World cup playing Southgate's defensive football need waking up.I rarely watch England in non tournament football these days but thought i'd give it  a go tonight,didn't even make it to half time before i switched channels,turgid stuff from Gareth's boys.

[roverandout]

4 minutes ago, Darrenbot said:

Anybody who thinks we have a smidgen of a chance at the World cup playing Southgate's defensive football need waking up.I rarely watch England in non tournament football these days but thought i'd give it  a go tonight,didn't even make it to half time before i switched channels,turgid stuff from Gareth's boys.

We will make it to the quarters then get mullered against France 

[Hasta]

1 minute ago, Mattyblue said:

Friendlies are now also five. Plus, we’ve lost plenty of friendlies away from home against teams like this.

If you think they are ‘competitive’ and mean something, fair enough. But in reality the whole ‘league’ and who played who, who won it will all be forgotten by this time next year. Whilst the WC/Euros go into folklore. That’s just the structure of international football.

Accepting that there is always going to be an international break, it’s either this or friendlies. At least this gives us an indication of where England are rather than beating Paraguay at Wembley.

[roverandout]

No urgency.  No closing down. I wanna pull my hair out

[Mattyblue]

1 minute ago, Hasta said:

Accepting that there is always going to be an international break, it’s either this or friendlies. At least this gives us an indication of where England are rather than beating Paraguay at Wembley.

Just organise friendlies against top sides then, no? Which to be fair to the FA, they largely were doing in the couple of years before the NL was set up.

[roversfan99]

Isnt part of the point being made that we dont have to organise friendlies v also rans and that we could still be playing good opposition that we organise ourselves? 

[roverandout]

Think I'll give the Germany game a miss.  Can't be doing with watching England anymore with Southgate in charge

[Herbie6590]

The last handful of England games have dampened down expectations to a level where Wales & the USA are rubbing their hands...

[roversfan99]

4 minutes ago, roverandout said:

We will make it to the quarters then get mullered against France 

We should be so lucky to get that far with dollopers like Maguire and Dier in defence.

[Proudtobeblue&white]

Very poor, manager needs to go.