England

[Mattyblue]

7 hours ago, roverandout said:

Trent is capable of playing killer passes with ease. We finally have a de bruyne type player in midfield.  Him rice and Bellingham will walk the euros 

Famous last words again, roverandout 😁

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

9 hours ago, roverandout said:

Trent is capable of playing killer passes with ease. We finally have a de bruyne type player in midfield.  Him rice and Bellingham will walk the euros 

He’ll have to get past Wharton first.

[roverandout]

4 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Famous last words again, roverandout 😁

I was a bit drunk when I wrote that 

[roverandout]

2 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

He’ll have to get past Wharton first.

2026 Wharton trent rice Bellingham Is some midfield options

[Norbert Rassragr]

It's good d to see an old fashioned tonking of a smaller nation. There was a period a while ago when we'd have laboured to win 2 or 3 nil to these nations, with the likes of Lampard playing like Jason Lowe.

[philipl]

10 minutes ago, Norbert Rassragr said:

It's good d to see an old fashioned tonking of a smaller nation. There was a period a while ago when we'd have laboured to win 2 or 3 nil to these nations, with the likes of Lampard playing like Jason Lowe.

Not that small- North Macedonia knocked Italy out of World Cup Qualification in 2022 and won in Germany two years ago.

Makes Malta losing 4-0 look very respectable.

[roverandout]

1 hour ago, philipl said:

Not that small- North Macedonia knocked Italy out of World Cup Qualification in 2022 and won in Germany two years ago.

Makes Malta losing 4-0 look very respectable.

Also Malta gave Ukraine a much better game than what they gave England 

[speeeeeeedie]

14 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Can play with a cigar in his mouth against minnows in qualifying, problem is against the big teams in major tournaments when it matters when we come up short. Players come through but he keeps getting picked. Going forward, competitive with anyone.

Maguire hasn't put a foot wrong for England in 2 World Cups and a Euro's.

He wasn't worth the money Man U paid for him, but unlike many previous generations his performances improve in an England shirt.

[speeeeeeedie]

17 hours ago, goozburger said:

It's hard to deny that he looks comfortable and composed in midfield. I bet Klopp is furious because Trent will likely want to play there for Liverpool.

I reckon that Southgate had a chat with Klopp beforehand. 

Klopp moving TAA into midfield coincided with an upturn in Liverpool's form. His defensively frailties are getting worse, Klopp needs midfielders. It's a win win for all.

England have some real talent. Bringing on Grealish and Foden is a luxury prior England managers never had. 

 

[superniko]

Not a clue what our strongest 11 is to be honest - some luxury for Southgate. Walker, Trippier, Trent and James all as RBs, it's just an outrageous squad now.

For the front 6, I'd probably go

Bellingham - Rice - Foden

Rashford - Kane - Saka

Find it hard to imagine we've players good enough to stop Foden getting in the team (I know Pep has played Grealish all season). So Rice holding, Bellingham box to box and Foden advanced creating, allowing us to keep pace out wide with Saka and Rashford. 

 

[roverandout]

4 hours ago, superniko said:

Not a clue what our strongest 11 is to be honest - some luxury for Southgate. Walker, Trippier, Trent and James all as RBs, it's just an outrageous squad now.

For the front 6, I'd probably go

Bellingham - Rice - Foden

Rashford - Kane - Saka

Find it hard to imagine we've players good enough to stop Foden getting in the team (I know Pep has played Grealish all season). So Rice holding, Bellingham box to box and Foden advanced creating, allowing us to keep pace out wide with Saka and Rashford. 

 

Trent instead of foden. That  front 6 is unplayable potentially. Though foden Grealish maddison eze is some talent off the bench

Edited June 20, 2023 by roverandout

[K-Hod]

58 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Trent instead of foden. That  front 6 is unplayable potentially. Though foden Grealish maddison eze is some talent off the bench

You drunk again?

[roverandout]

1 minute ago, K-Hod said:

You drunk again?

Trent was fantastic in those two games 

[goozburger]

2 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

You drunk again?

Have to agree with @roverandout. Trent was excellent in both games. It'd be interesting to see how he gets on against tougher opposition.

[Mattyblue]

He had a stroll about against far inferior players. See how he does against quality teams.

Edited June 20, 2023 by Mattyblue

[K-Hod]

3 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Trent was fantastic in those two games 

Not disputing that, but he’s not better than Foden- not by a long stretch.

[roverandout]

5 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Not disputing that, but he’s not better than Foden- not by a long stretch.

Foden never lives up to his potential for England.  Foden needs to stick out wide.  Trent just looks made for a midfield role for England 

[K-Hod]

17 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Foden never lives up to his potential for England.  Foden needs to stick out wide.  Trent just looks made for a midfield role for England 

He would if he ever got on the pitch. Southgate seems to fear him and a few other flair players.

[speeeeeeedie]

3 hours ago, K-Hod said:

He would if he ever got on the pitch. Southgate seems to fear him and a few other flair players.

Fear? Where do you get that one from?

Foden is a class act but seems the opposite for me; he looks a bit scared playing for England. He has time on his side though. 

[Upside Down]

16 hours ago, philipl said:

Not that small- North Macedonia knocked Italy out of World Cup Qualification in 2022 and won in Germany two years ago.

Makes Malta losing 4-0 look very respectable.

So they won a game two years ago.

Formidable opponents then.

These qualifications have always been pathetic. If England can't win against these sides by at least four then they shouldn't qualify.

[Mattyblue]

Didn’t used to be, was always a bit of jeopardy re qualification, probably until about ten years ago, complete stroll these days obviously.

[roversfan99]

Doesnt help that the Euro's is stupidly expanded now, with the World Cup to follow.

But yeah, even the likes of Capello and Hodgson used to breeze to qualification with average squads.

[Mattyblue]

The Euros are now ridiculously easy to qualify for for the bigger nations, top two straight through and then play offs for even more spots.

[roverandout]

Even Scotland might qualify 

[Upside Down]

As long as I can remember these qualifications have been a joke.

It does make it very funny when England fail to qualify.