v Luton Town (h) 11/9/21

[islander200]

He has talked up Butterworth the last few days and then doesn't even give him a minute when Gallagher was poor 

[bluebruce]

3 minutes ago, islander200 said:

He has talked up Butterworth the last few days and then doesn't even give him a minute when Gallagher was poor 

Standard.

[booth]

2 minutes ago, islander200 said:

He has talked up Butterworth the last few days and then doesn't even give him a minute when Gallagher was poor 

I still can’t believe he kept him on. It’s almost like he’s being forced to. How could you watch that performance and think it was worthy of a full 90?

[roversfan99]

56 minutes ago, JoeH said:

Buckley wasn’t quiet at all he was all over them winning the ball back constantly. Got a round of applause for his tireless efforts pressing high on three occasions. Had a hand in the second goal too. Agenda this.

Agenda my arse. I dont recall very much that he did from an attacking sense at all, hence why I described him as very quiet. Won the ball back a couple of times, including once towards the Jack Walker when he sluggishly then allowed his man back ball side before fouling him. He wasnt awful, kept things safe a lot of the times and probably marginally better than Rothwell who kept losing the ball, but not enough again IMO. Good ball in the build up to the first though, but nothing else.

But can we stop with the "agenda" bollocks please. Im sure we all have opinions on players so it is natural to have a bit of confirmation bias, I notice that your Analytics page is particularly bigging up Pickering who I thought aside from his excellent take and finish, was again not convincing. Buckley is a player who for me the physicality commonly mentioned is less of an issue, he just too rarely does much from an attacking sense. I often question Dolan and dont particularly rate him, still I am clear in my opinion that he really impressed me today. If I was agenda driven, id play down his performance.

34 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Well I think I have just about calm down now after today's game. 

I thought Rovers played for the first 65 minutes and I felt comfortable and we were the only team going to win. We scored 2 well worked goals and was pleased with our play and we had enough chances to get a third. But then we allowed back into the game with a soft goal. 

I am lost for my words why Mowbray decided to chance formation and just have 2 centre midfielders instead of 3. The 4-3-3- formation was working good and we looked dangerous. I don't know why he does it must games. I would bought on Butterworth or Khadra for Gallagher just before the first Luton goal. Bringing on Maglorie was a massive mistake as we were inviting more pressure. 

I thought Dolan and Buckley was good today and Dolan deserved MOTM today. 

I have zero time for their manager Nathan Jones and I thought his antics and touchline behaviour was embarrassing and pathetic. 

on the Ref performance, it was embarrassing and to be honest it was appalling. He never control of the game after a couple of months  and its about time the EFL and FA improve the standard of referring in this country. simply not good. I would go into more detail buts to be honest it would far too long post. 

 

What did you make of Gallagher down the middle, where you have consistently said that he will be good at?

Edited September 11, 2021 by roversfan99

[bluebruce]

8 minutes ago, islander200 said:

He has talked up Butterworth the last few days and then doesn't even give him a minute when Gallagher was poor 

Imagine all the game time he's going to get when Poveda and Khadra are match fit......

[roversfan99]

Ayala very passive for the equaliser and soft and lucky for the disallowed goal, looking back. Another decision in our favour.

[DE.]

32 minutes ago, islander200 said:

He has talked up Butterworth the last few days and then doesn't even give him a minute when Gallagher was poor 

Even if he did bring Butterworth on he probably would have put him at right back or something equally stupid. 

[arbitro]

Just now, roversfan99 said:

Ayala very passive for the equaliser and soft and lucky for the disallowed goal, looking back. Another decision in our favour.

I thought Ayala was beaten too easily for their first goal too. All the classic Mowbray failings of the last four years were apparent today. Weak defending and negative, unnecessary changes which weaken us. And predictably his interview on Quest sees him carping on about the referee, a referee who should have sent Lenihan off early on by the way.

[chaddyrovers]

30 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

What did you make of Gallagher down the middle, where you have consistently said that he will be good at?

not his best game but I'm not going to be over critical of him today or write him off from playing up front. For me, thats is where he should be playing. 

He had a good game at Boro and not the best day today

30 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Agenda my arse. I dont recall very much that he did from an attacking sense at all, hence why I described him as very quiet. Won the ball back a couple of times, including once towards the Jack Walker when he sluggishly then allowed his man back ball side before fouling him. He wasnt awful, kept things safe a lot of the times and probably marginally better than Rothwell who kept losing the ball, but not enough again IMO.

But can we stop with the "agenda" bollocks please.

I thought Both Buckley and Rothwell wasn't bad at all and probably a 6 for Rothwell and 7 for Buckley. played an excellent ball for Nyambe to pass for Dolan goal. 

Why? some people are very over critical of certain players at Rovers. Not saying you are one but I do very you can go OTT some times. 

30 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I notice that your Analytics page is particularly bigging up Pickering who I thought aside from his excellent take and finish, was again not convincing.

I thought Pickering had a very decent game tbh defensively

Edited September 11, 2021 by chaddyrovers

[bigbrandjohn]

It could have been worse. We could have had Christian Walton in goal. 
 

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/58444671

[aletheia]

And there you have it ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, the demonstration of why we will be a mid-table mediocrity (at best)under this regime.

[roversfan99]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

not his best game but I'm not going to be over critical of him today or write him off from playing up front. For me, thats is where he should be playing. 

He had a good game at Boro and not the best day today

I thought Both Buckley and Rothwell wasn't bad at all and probably a 6 for Rothwell and 7 for Buckley. played an excellent ball for Nyambe to pass for Dolan goal. 

Why? some people are very over critical of certain players at Rovers. Not saying you are one but I do very you can go OTT some times. 

I thought Pickering had a very decent game tbh defensively

Did you watch the Boro game? I thought he was fairly poor aside from the fantastic strike for the goal, all of the same failings, he cant hold it up, worst touch you will see at this level, lacks intelligence (today a couple of his decisions near the end summed him up) and in both of the last 2 games, we have been unable to keep the ball out of our half for long as a result.

What Joe said was bollocks, as is what you are implying regarding agendas. Had you asked me yesterday my opinion on Dolan, I would have said that I think he is well off the standard of a regular Championship contributor. Obviously my opinion hasn't drastically changed on one game, but if I couldn't see past my opinions on players, or agendas as some may call them, I would not be so strong in my praise for Dolan today, who thoroughly deserved the man of the match award.

If you or indeed anyone think that my criticism regarding my suggestion that Buckley was ineffective from an attacking perspective, something which I feel is a common theme, whilst not suggesting that he was awful or anything hyperbolic, then fair enough, you clearly both are not capable or willing to have constructive debates on the matter.

[neophox]

Where was Poveda today? 

[neophox]

We need to learn from this and move on and beat Hull on Tuesday. 

Edited September 11, 2021 by neophox

[Paul Mellelieu]

A game, if we'd taken our chances, we would have strolled to victory.

Everything else is noise.

The fella in front of the Riverside taking a bow did tickle me though.

 

[Hasta]

9 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

A game, if we'd taken our chances, we would have strolled to victory.

Everything else is noise.

The fella in front of the Riverside taking a bow did tickle me though.

 

We don't take our chances because the players we have brought in for big money to take those chances aren't good enough. 

The fact we don't win games we should have won comfortably is a common theme over the last 3 seasons. Why does it keep happening?

 

 

 

[Paul Mellelieu]

15 minutes ago, Hasta said:

We don't take our chances because the players we have brought in for big money to take those chances aren't good enough. 

The fact we don't win games we should have won comfortably is a common theme over the last 3 seasons. Why does it keep happening?

 

 

 

Thanks for that.

[Bigdoggsteel]

Something about today's result really sickened me. I think it was the fact I was checking the score on the Forsa app and was thinking why is our game going on and all the others are finished, just feeling so sure that this is going to end up with them equalising and not us going 3-1 up. It's so frustrating supporting this club. 

Should there have been so much extra time? What happened? 

You can't give up 3 points from that position at home. 

[Hasta]

16 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

Thanks for that.

 No problem. Just pointing out one of the many reasons why there are serious concerns raised from that game that are far more than 'just noise'.

[J*B]

Scores on the doors…

[Silas]

2 hours ago, OsloRover said:

.. and although we lost at the end..

Yeah, felt like it right.

2 hours ago, OsloRover said:

...we clearly looked the better team...

Groundhog day. We could say that about a dozen games a season last few years. Clearly looking good isn't translating to points.

2 hours ago, OsloRover said:

If anything the start of the season has been better than expected.

😥😥 Sad times.

2 hours ago, OsloRover said:

If and when we go on another death spiral it's high time to get rid....

And this is where we're at, just waiting for the inevitable. 

I genuinely don't believe there will be another manager in all the football leagues that has survived so many dismal troughs.

Say 10 game spells, will there be any other managers with such a low pts per game % repeated so many times that is still in a job. 🤔

[roversfan99]

13 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Something about today's result really sickened me. I think it was the fact I was checking the score on the Forsa app and was thinking why is our game going on and all the others are finished, just feeling so sure that this is going to end up with them equalising and not us going 3-1 up. It's so frustrating supporting this club. 

Should there have been so much extra time? What happened? 

You can't give up 3 points from that position at home. 

Yeah, the referee went down at the start of injury time which took a good few minutes. He eventually went off, no issues with time keeping.

[Armchair supporter supremo]

2 hours ago, islander200 said:

He has talked up Butterworth the last few days and then doesn't even give him a minute when Gallagher was poor 

I'm not going to join the gallagher bashing band waggon, I personally think he's a decent player at this level when he's on form. 

 

But as you and others have pointed out... all the talk leading up to the game bigging Butterworth up but then not even bringing him on as a sub (let alone start him) is just fkin bizare. 

Edited September 11, 2021 by Armchair supporter supremo

[Bigdoggsteel]

Not playing Butterworth after all good talk is classic Mowbray, but maybe he thought Brereton wouldn't start? 

[Bigdoggsteel]

11 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Yeah, the referee went down at the start of injury time which took a good few minutes. He eventually went off, no issues with time keeping.

8 minutes extra is extremely rare, but fair enough, as I said, I didn't see. So typical they couldn't hold the lead though