Attendances: A cause for concern

[MarkBRFC]

Its until January 7th, you can bet it will go on longer though.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Let's hope we get to attend the Barnsley and Huddersfield games over Xmas at this rate...

Edited December 21, 2021 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[MarkBRFC]

Can't see it unfortunately.

[rigger]

21 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Can't see it unfortunately.

Can't see what ?

[MarkBRFC]

9 minutes ago, rigger said:

Can't see what ?

 

55 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Let's hope we get to attend the Barnsley and Huddersfield games over Xmas at this rate...

This.

[rigger]

3 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

 

This.

I don't get why you think those two games will be behind closed doors. For restrictions to come in doesn't parliament have to be sitting. I don't think a judgement will be made until parliament reconvenes in the new year.

[only2garners]

Just now, rigger said:

I don't get why you think those two games will be behind closed doors. For restrictions to come in doesn't parliament have to be sitting. I don't think a judgement will be made until parliament reconvenes in the new year.

The Welsh Government have just done it without the Senedd sitting. Waiting until Westminster resumes will be far, far too late.

[rigger]

Just now, only2garners said:

The Welsh Government have just done it without the Senedd sitting. Waiting until Westminster resumes will be far, far too late.

I may be wrong, but the devolved Welsh government operate under different rules.

[Mattyblue]

Pretty sure that under the Coronavirus Act, the government reserves the right to close down events deemed a threat to public health.

[rigger]

2 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Pretty sure that under the Coronavirus Act, the government reserves the right to close down events deemed a threat to public health.

So do you think they are going to shut down sporting events by enacting that right. Would they also stop new year celebrations. Personnally I don't think they will.

[Mattyblue]

Yes, I do think the Act will be used to make games go BCD.

Edited December 21, 2021 by Mattyblue

[rigger]

26 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Yes, I do think the Act will be used to make games go BCD.

In the future that may happen, but I don't think it will be till after the christmas/newyear holidays, which is when the two games being discussed, take place. 

[MarkBRFC]

Scottish games are going to a 500 capacity from Boxing Day onwards, for at least 3 weeks.

[Mike E]

46 minutes ago, rigger said:

So do you think they are going to shut down sporting events by enacting that right. Would they also stop new year celebrations. Personnally I don't think they will.

They already have:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-new-years-eve-trafalgar-square-cancelled-omicron-b1979798.html

[Mattyblue]

21 minutes ago, rigger said:

In the future that may happen, but I don't think it will be till after the christmas/newyear holidays, which is when the two games being discussed, take place. 

You maybe right, but for me there’s a good chance we don’t see Barnsley or Hudds…

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, rigger said:

I don't get why you think those two games will be behind closed doors. For restrictions to come in doesn't parliament have to be sitting. I don't think a judgement will be made until parliament reconvenes in the new year.

I believe any new measures will required Parliament to vote in the measures which given that Parliament hasn't been recalled so far and it would take 2 days to recalled them then its like any new measures won't be in place until the new year. 

46 minutes ago, Mike E said:

They already have:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-new-years-eve-trafalgar-square-cancelled-omicron-b1979798.html

That's cos the Mayor of London is in charge of Trafalgar square new years event. Where Shutting down sporting events or pubs or restaurants would need a decision from Government then Parliament to vote 

[chaddyrovers]

I've been down to the Rovers club shop today and quite a few people getting FA cup tickets for Wigan including my missus for me as Christmas present

[JHRover]

1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

Scottish games are going to a 500 capacity from Boxing Day onwards, for at least 3 weeks.

Good way of ensuring that all the 'in crowd'  - sponsors, corporates, guests, directors and basically anyone with loads of money get in to watch but keep out the riff raff.

I think some in football would like that to be the permanent way of things.

[Mattyblue]

12 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I believe any new measures will required Parliament to vote in the measures which given that Parliament hasn't been recalled so far and it would take 2 days to recalled them then its like any new measures won't be in place until the new year. 

That's cos the Mayor of London is in charge of Trafalgar square new years event. Where Shutting down sporting events or pubs or restaurants would need a decision from Government then Parliament to vote 

No vote needed.

[JHRover]

Anyone thinking that restrictions will only last for 2 weeks or believing this 'circuit breaker' talk just needs to remember what happened last year.

They went on and on and on about a 'circuit breaker' in November last year and we weren't properly out of restrictions until this summer. It went on for months and months and months.

The test will reverse once the restrictions are in place. At the moment it is forecasts that are being relied on to determine things i.e. what might happen in a few weeks if restrictions aren't brought in.

But once under restrictions it will be a case of waiting for the data to arrive that proves it is safe to release them and it being unsafe to do so until that data appears.

[chaddyrovers]

14 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

No vote needed.

A vote is need on any new measures by Parliament 

[Mattyblue]

8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

A vote is need on any new measures by Parliament 

They aren’t new measures, in contrast to vaccine passports, so are already covered by the Coronavirus Act.

Edited December 21, 2021 by Mattyblue

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

They aren’t new measures, in contrast to vaccine passports, so are already covered by the Coronavirus Act.

care to post them on here please? 

[Mattyblue]

Bit upset you wouldn’t take me at my word, 😢 , but there you go - Section 52, page 35.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1019668/coronavirus-act-2020-ninth-two-monthly-report.pdf

Edited December 21, 2021 by Mattyblue

[JacknOry]