roversfan99 Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said: Well done to Wolves. They deserve it. Miles the better team. United need to going back to playing 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2 and used Sancho in his proper position on the right wing and Greenwood on the left. Still badly lacking a Michael Carrick type in centre midfield next to McTominay But Manchester United need to start for massive recruitment drive of new players like a new striker, Creative Centre Midfielder, right back, wide left player. Sancho looks crap, seems to be running in treacle. Quote
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simongarnerisgod Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Surely United are searching for a receipt for Sancho, Dortmund have had United's pants down. He looks so slow and lacking urgency and his decision making and final ball is so bad. Maybe he just thrived in a poor league. i watch a bit of german football and he did`nt really stand out as great for dortmund,the dortmund board must have been amazed that utd offered so much,if utd are ever to get back on top of the pile they have to look at their recruitment process,it`s throw money at anybody,loving their averageness,it`s great 3 Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 27 minutes ago, K-Hod said: To be expected with McTominay and Matic in the middle of the park really. LoL. I almost but that in as a sentence in my post but was on the phone so kept it short. Delighted for Wolves. Jones was no worse than Maguire would have been. Quote
AspRover Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 Just now, AspRover said: I watched a fair bit of Sancho at Dortmund and there were a few games was absolutely unplayable. Not all of them sure, but he's young and got a bit to learn. Maybe he got his big move and took his foot off the pedal but this doesn't look like even remotely the same player. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 3, 2022 Author Posted January 3, 2022 28 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Sancho looks crap, seems to be running in treacle. Well second half he was asked to played left wing back role. Why? Until he played his correct position and used to properly. Not sure Rangnick is that right manager to bring that out. Someone like Pochettino or Erik Ten Hag would play a style thats would suit him. Quote
roversfan99 Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Well second half he was asked to played left wing back role. Why? Until he played his correct position and used to properly. Not sure Rangnick is that right manager to bring that out. Someone like Pochettino or Erik Ten Hag would play a style thats would suit him. He has done nothing in any of the games he has played, he cant blame a 15-30 minute spell as a wing back. He looks so slow, a bit overweight, and his decision making is really poor. I think the English trio of him, Rashford and Greenwood (a lot of furore over him being subbed, I thought he was little/no better than the rest) are somewhat hiding behind the Ronaldo narrative when at least he scores, those 3 barely do yet also dont seem to be giving 100%. Seen much of Ajax? Pochettino did well at Spurs but ultimately won nothing. Quote
Blue blood Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 Manure need to do what we have done this season and find a system that works for the players they have. Like us they may arrive with said squad more by error than design but they need to work out pdq a system that works for them. Forget ideal philosophies or formations - what works? A more pragmatic approach would help them significantly. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 3, 2022 Author Posted January 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: He has done nothing in any of the games he has played, he cant blame a 15-30 minute spell as a wing back. He looks so slow, a bit overweight, and his decision making is really poor. I think the English trio of him, Rashford and Greenwood (a lot of furore over him being subbed, I thought he was little/no better than the rest) are somewhat hiding behind the Ronaldo narrative when at least he scores, those 3 barely do yet also dont seem to be giving 100%. Sancho needs playing in his correct position and you might get the best out of him. Greenwood was United best player today as the Sky Sports commentator said. Signing Ronaldo was a massive mistake by United it upset the playing squad and OGS didn't want it but the Club did. 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 3, 2022 Author Posted January 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Pochettino did well at Spurs but ultimately won nothing. He did a great job there. 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Sancho needs playing in his correct position and you might get the best out of him. Greenwood was United best player today as the Sky Sports commentator said. Signing Ronaldo was a massive mistake by United it upset the playing squad and OGS didn't want it but the Club did. Being Uniteds best player tonight is like being the tallest dwarf. For perspective, his main rival for that award would be Phil Jones! Sancho has played out wide basically every game including most of his time on ths pitch tonight and has been shit everytime ive seen him. Ronaldo may have been a signing made out of nostalgia but hes got them out of the shit numerous times and without his goals, they really would be struggling with the supporting cast equally lacking urgency but also not scoring the goals that he gives you. Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 Signing Ronaldo was a massive error of judgement. It’s hard to come with a way of playing that allows him to goal hang up front in modern football. 5 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 3, 2022 Author Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Sancho has played out wide basically every game including most of his time on ths pitch tonight and has been shit everytime ive seen him. Does Rangnick's formation suits him? Not for me but tbh it doesn't suit the entire United squad Edited January 3, 2022 by chaddyrovers Quote
roversfan99 Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Signing Ronaldo was a massive error of judgement. It’s hard to come with a way of playing that allows him to goal hang up front in modern football. The thing is, its not as if without him, they have the personnel to play high intensity pressing football, they didnt before he joined. Rashford has always been fairly petulant and inconsistent, Martial the same although he has now been jettisoned, Sancho looks from the same mould, Greenwood has fizzled to similar, Fernandes is hardly high intensity, Pogba is currently out but as lazy as anyone, the list goes on. I think because its Ronaldo, he takes the headlines good or bad and I have no doubt that he is not at the peak of his powers, but others are hiding behind him and not pulling their weight themselves. Without his goals, they would really be struggling. 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Does Rangnick's formation suits him? Even before Rangnick joined he was playing just as crap under Solskjaer. Is playing from the left unnatural to him? No. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 3, 2022 Author Posted January 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Signing Ronaldo was a massive error of judgement. It’s hard to come with a way of playing that allows him to goal hang up front in modern football. Exactly Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 3, 2022 Author Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, roversfan99 said: Even before Rangnick joined he was playing just as crap under Solskjaer. Is playing from the left unnatural to him? No. Is playing wide left his natural position? Where does Southgate play him or his former Dortmund head coaches? Edited January 3, 2022 by chaddyrovers 1 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: The thing is, its not as if without him, they have the personnel to play high intensity pressing football, they didnt before he joined. Rashford has always been fairly petulant and inconsistent, Martial the same although he has now been jettisoned, Sancho looks from the same mould, Greenwood has fizzled to similar, Fernandes is hardly high intensity, Pogba is currently out but as lazy as anyone, the list goes on. I think because its Ronaldo, he takes the headlines good or bad and I have no doubt that he is not at the peak of his powers, but others are hiding behind him and not pulling their weight themselves. Without his goals, they would really be struggling. They could have played Cavani up front and got the same number of goals and a bit less selfish posing. 4 Quote
DeeCee Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Signing Ronaldo was a massive error of judgement. It’s hard to come with a way of playing that allows him to goal hang up front in modern football. He'd get in any team in the world . And put thousands on the gate. Quote
roversfan99 Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: They could have played Cavani up front and got the same number of goals and a bit less selfish posing. No chance. Quote
RoverDom Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 I look at united squad, especially in attack, and see a lot of pure quality but also stroppyness and ability to sulk. Ronaldo enhances this for me. Was always a Ronaldo fan but he's gone down in my estimations this season. Attitude is a bit sucky. 1 Quote
RoverDom Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: No chance. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that cavani could have got 8 PL goals if he had the same minutes as him Quote
roverandout Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 2 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said: i watch a bit of german football and he did`nt really stand out as great for dortmund,the dortmund board must have been amazed that utd offered so much,if utd are ever to get back on top of the pile they have to look at their recruitment process,it`s throw money at anybody,loving their averageness,it`s great Sancho was sensational at dortmund Quote
roversfan99 Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, roverandout said: Sancho was sensational at dortmund Maybe it says a lot about the Bundesliga, he looks hopeless here and has never really impressed in an England shirt. Quote
DeeCee Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, RoverDom said: I look at united squad, especially in attack, and see a lot of pure quality but also stroppyness and ability to sulk. Ronaldo enhances this for me. Was always a Ronaldo fan but he's gone down in my estimations this season. Attitude is a bit sucky. He knows he's playing with journeymen 🙄 Quote
roverandout Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: Maybe it says a lot about the Bundesliga, he looks hopeless here and has never really impressed in an England shirt. He has 3 goals and a few assists for England. What more do u want from a wide player Quote
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