January Transfer window 2022

[USABlue]

10 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Be interesting to see if this new signing has to do the usual few weeks of getting to know how things work etc....my bet is this one will be right in, Mogadon hates Nyambe you can tell.. 

I agree on both points.

[briansol]

13 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Be interesting to see if this new signing has to do the usual few weeks of getting to know how things work etc....my bet is this one will be right in, Mogadon hates Nyambe you can tell.. 

Hate? Come on. Nyambe has been a regular starter since Tony took over 5 years ago. He's played 30-40 games each season, mostly limited by injuries. In two brief spells when fit, Bennett and JRC has been preferred. 

If Mowbray "hated" him, wouldn't he replaced him in those 5 years? And why try to give a new 3.5 year contract?

[darrenrover]

11 hours ago, Ulrich said:

Why on earth don't you rate Pears?

I presume that was said tongue in cheek Ulrich?

He may have decent reflexes but has been found wanting on every single occasion where positioning, moving his feet and time to think about matters comes in to play......see Saturday as a prime example!

Ben Benson is surely partially culpable, as he surely was with David Raya!

[Spartakfenni]

12 hours ago, Ulrich said:

Why on earth don't you rate Pears?

Because he’s a mates son who’s shit. The clean sheets came in front of a solid back 5 not a made up one where we lost our Captain before they scored. Pears should be shipped out. Eastham one of our own is 10 times better as those who go to the u23’s will testify.

Edited January 10, 2022 by Spartakfenni

[Bohinen1983]

9 minutes ago, darrenrover said:

I presume that was said tongue in cheek Ulrich?

He may have decent reflexes but has been found wanting on every single occasion where positioning, moving his feet and time to think about matters comes in to play......see Saturday as a prime example!

Ben Benson is surely partially culpable, as he surely was with David Raya!

How can you compare Pears and Raya?

Raya was brilliant at Rovers, he made a few mistakes but was largely brilliant, Pears just isn't as good, he obviously has the capacity toplay very well but he doesn't seem to be able to replicate that,  That's what makes a good keeper. I think to blame the coach for tha is harsh. I know the counterargument; 'if he's good sometimes a good coach could make him good all the time.'  If only it was that easy. Every keeper has the occasional great game.  It's been said the thing that seperates non-league players from top notch ones is the ability to consistently replicate their best form.  He's above his level. No amount of coaching is going to fix that. He reminds me of Steele- who ironically is somehow playing in the premiership now.

I can't see the logic in letting Raya and Fisher leave, the latter now being chased by Swansea and bringing in Kaminski and Pears.

I really like Kaminski but I don't think he's better than Raya nor do I think Pears is better than Fisher who has done consistently well at MK Dons.

To me our former keepers were blamed for a poor defense infront of them, I'd much rather have kept the pair of them and rediverted the cash elsewhere- easy to say in hindight but I was a big fan of the pair of Raya and Fisher and gutted to see them both leave.

[bluebruce]

46 minutes ago, USABlue said:

Begs one question, could we put together a highlight reel of Nyambe that is that impressive?  Not sure we could, certainley could not show him scoring.  Still I am sure it skews in favour if the player, don't recall seeing any headers.

100% we could yes. Marauding runs down the wings, crunching tackles, cut backs in the box, he has a handful of assists. Nearly scored a lovely goal once if I recall, hit the bar or something (obviously we would leave out his more pathetic efforts!). No goals and probably only one or two crosses resulting in a goal, but apart from that and a bit less aggression in the tackle, it would look pretty similar to the Dutch lad's I expect.

[darrenrover]

14 minutes ago, Bohinen1983 said:

How can you compare Pears and Raya?

Raya was brilliant at Rovers, he made a few mistakes but was largely brilliant, Pears just isn't as good, he obviously has the capacity toplay very well but he doesn't seem to be able to replicate that,  That's what makes a good keeper. I think to blame the coach for tha is harsh. I know the counterargument; 'if he's good sometimes a good coach could make him good all the time.'  If only it was that easy. Every keeper has the occasional great game.  It's been said the thing that seperates non-league players from top notch ones is the ability to consistently replicate their best form.  He's above his level. No amount of coaching is going to fix that. He reminds me of Steele- who ironically is somehow playing in the premiership now.

I can't see the logic in letting Raya and Fisher leave, the latter now being chased by Swansea and bringing in Kaminski and Pears.

I really like Kaminski but I don't think he's better than Raya nor do I think Pears is better than Fisher who has done consistently well at MK Dons.

To me our former keepers were blamed for a poor defense infront of them, I'd much rather have kept the pair of them and rediverted the cash elsewhere- easy to say in hindight but I was a big fan of the pair of Raya and Fisher and gutted to see them both leave.

I didn't compare Raya with Pears, other than a common denominator between the 2 being lack of a true goalkeeping coach in the true sense of the word. 

IMO, Raya is a great goalkeeper and has developed his game immeasurably since he moved to Brentford. Pears is poor in terms of basics but may improve with adequate coaching.

Kaminski isn't the finished article either in my view but he's certainly got what it takes but could go on to another level with decent coaching to polish the rough edges.

Fisher is in the same category as Pears for me but it's all about opinions.

[Miller11]

8 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

100% we could yes. Marauding runs down the wings, crunching tackles, cut backs in the box, he has a handful of assists. Nearly scored a lovely goal once if I recall, hit the bar or something (obviously we would leave out his more pathetic efforts!). No goals and probably only one or two crosses resulting in a goal, but apart from that and a bit less aggression in the tackle, it would look pretty similar to the Dutch lad's I expect.

I don’t think Nyambe’s would look as flashy as the Dutch lads. Most of Nyambe’s game is solid but unspectacular. This is certainly no bad thing, and a Gary Neville highlights package would probably be quite boring for a YouTube video. 

Much of the criticism levelled at Nyambe comes from people who only see 3 minutes of highlights on Quest every week. He’s certainly more loved in Ewood than on social media.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

29 minutes ago, Spartakfenni said:

Because he’s a mates son who’s shit. The clean sheets came in front of a solid back 5 not a made up one where we lost our Captain before they scored. Pears should be shipped out. Eastham one of our own is 10 times better as those who go to the u23’s will testify.

I don’t think the Pears comment was meant to be taken seriously..

[islander200]

Sky reporting we have a bid in for Hedges 

 

[Sparks Rover]

2 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Sky reporting we have a bid in for Hedges 

 

If we are going for this guy we may aswell go for Hardie at Plymouth....at least he's tried in England and he's done OK....give the nobbers a bloody nose too as they want him.👍

[rigger]

I don't get the relevence of being tried in the English leagues 1 and 2. Before that he was loaned out to four lesser clubs in the Scottish league. I don't see how that makes him a better prospect than Hedges ?

[JHRover]

Where do people think Nyambe is likely to go? I've heard 'rumours' of a move to Leeds.

We've been through all this nonsense before with Raya, Cairney and others. Generally when other clubs at a similar or higher level want one of our players it is for a good reason. If the replacement we aim for was a better player/option then the clubs chasing our players could save themselves a lot of time and money by going directly for the replacement.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, rigger said:

I don't get the relevence of being tried in the English leagues 1 and 2. Before that he was loaned out to four lesser clubs in the Scottish league. I don't see how that makes him a better prospect than Hedges ?

It doesn't mate, we've not signed a single player in the last 5 years that the fans on the forum have been excited about other than Armstrong and even he had doubters he was worth 3 million! When we signed Kaminski with Europa League experience it was a 'why are they happy to sell him? Is he proven in England? Sign a right back from the Bundesliga and people have him liking a tackle down as a bad thing, its laughable. 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Where do people think Nyambe is likely to go? I've heard 'rumours' of a move to Leeds.

We've been through all this nonsense before with Raya, Cairney and others. Generally when other clubs at a similar or higher level want one of our players it is for a good reason. If the replacement we aim for was a better player/option then the clubs chasing our players could save themselves a lot of time and money by going directly for the replacement.

I think he'll sign for a club who finishes below us this season. Someone like a Forest/Swansea.

Edited January 10, 2022 by Mellor Rover

[booth]

21 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Sky reporting we have a bid in for Hedges 

 

Contrary to my earlier thoughts on Hedges, that being he doesn't score enough goals. He could be a good signing for Rovers as a wide player, he looks a nuisance for defenders.

Frustrating if it's on a pre-contract for next season considering we need players now.

[Ulrich]

1 hour ago, darrenrover said:

I presume that was said tongue in cheek Ulrich?

He may have decent reflexes but has been found wanting on every single occasion where positioning, moving his feet and time to think about matters comes in to play......see Saturday as a prime example!

Ben Benson is surely partially culpable, as he surely was with David Raya!

 

1 hour ago, Spartakfenni said:

Because he’s a mates son who’s shit. The clean sheets came in front of a solid back 5 not a made up one where we lost our Captain before they scored. Pears should be shipped out. Eastham one of our own is 10 times better as those who go to the u23’s will testify.

Darren had it right first line....  Sarcasm, tongue in cheek etc etc. He's CRAP, I've never even seen that in school football (2nd goal)

[Sparks Rover]

11 minutes ago, rigger said:

I don't get the relevence of being tried in the English leagues 1 and 2. Before that he was loaned out to four lesser clubs in the Scottish league. I don't see how that makes him a better prospect than Hedges ?

He's worked with Lowe and Lowe is desperate to get him....so he must be OK or why would he be after him again and in a higher league.  I'd use that as a guide rather than some pie in the sky...

[JacknOry]

1 hour ago, Bohinen1983 said:

How can you compare Pears and Raya?

Raya was brilliant at Rovers, he made a few mistakes but was largely brilliant, Pears just isn't as good, he obviously has the capacity toplay very well but he doesn't seem to be able to replicate that,  That's what makes a good keeper. I think to blame the coach for tha is harsh. I know the counterargument; 'if he's good sometimes a good coach could make him good all the time.'  If only it was that easy. Every keeper has the occasional great game.  It's been said the thing that seperates non-league players from top notch ones is the ability to consistently replicate their best form.  He's above his level. No amount of coaching is going to fix that. He reminds me of Steele- who ironically is somehow playing in the premiership now.

I can't see the logic in letting Raya and Fisher leave, the latter now being chased by Swansea and bringing in Kaminski and Pears.

I really like Kaminski but I don't think he's better than Raya nor do I think Pears is better than Fisher who has done consistently well at MK Dons.

To me our former keepers were blamed for a poor defense infront of them, I'd much rather have kept the pair of them and rediverted the cash elsewhere- easy to say in hindight but I was a big fan of the pair of Raya and Fisher and gutted to see them both leave.

Its like comparing pears and apples 🙂

[islander200]

22 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Where do people think Nyambe is likely to go? I've heard 'rumours' of a move to Leeds.

We've been through all this nonsense before with Raya, Cairney and others. Generally when other clubs at a similar or higher level want one of our players it is for a good reason. If the replacement we aim for was a better player/option then the clubs chasing our players could save themselves a lot of time and money by going directly for the replacement.

Dont think Nyambe will go anywhere this window.

Have you heard Leeds from the same source as the rest of us?A couple of fan led websites?

[neophox]

Zeefuick is really good of what Ive seen....think championship will suite him well....quick and strong lad who can pass.

[islander200]

23 minutes ago, booth said:

Contrary to my earlier thoughts on Hedges, that being he doesn't score enough goals. He could be a good signing for Rovers as a wide player, he looks a nuisance for defenders.

Frustrating if it's on a pre-contract for next season considering we need players now.

They said we have a bid in to take him this window so hopefully Aberdeen will play ball.

Agree we should be putting our efforts in to making the squad stronger this season rather than planning too far ahead.If we go up we will need Premier league experience which Hedges doesnt have

 

 

[rovers11]

So Zeefuik looks like a done deal and a good start to the window. Loan with a fee already agreed if he does well according to some reports. He's not coming here to sit on the bench so I fully expect to see Nyambe leave for £2-3m. Fair play to him if he can get a prem move and double his wages. 

I think Hedges will come here in Jan too. Still think Burke will come here towards the end of the window. A CM loan to replace Clarkson, and a loan attacking winger to replace Poveda will prob be on the cards. 

I think we'll have a busy window. 

[RevidgeBlue]

45 minutes ago, Mellor Rover said:

I think he'll sign for a club who finishes below us this season. Someone like a Forest/Swansea.

What's the point for him in that?

[Mercer]

I think one of the the best signings Rovers could make this window is a goalkeeping coach to replace Benson.

IMO, we need a goalkeeping coach who has played the game professionally at a good level and who has a proven track record for developing and improving goalkeepers and who our goalkeepers would respect - with such a coach, I think there is a very good chance Raya (look how his game has developed since leaving Rovers) would still be a Rovers' player.

Kaminski is a very good goalkeeper who, I believe, with the right coach and mentor would get even better. 

I think Pears is a lost cause irrespective of who our goalkeeping coach is or who might be. 

I think Stergiakis and Eastham have far more natural ability and potential than Pears and they deserve the chance to realise such potential with a goalkeeping coach who ticks the right boxes. 

Edited January 10, 2022 by Mercer