January Transfer window 2022

[islander200]

1 minute ago, glen9mullan said:

Brereton £28.5 mill??? 

This would need to be considered, especially is Venkys sanctioned just half of that this window. 

Brereton plays mainly on the left, and although this system has worked, we still dont have that out and out striker down the middle. The lad at Hull last night (Eaves) caused us so many issues with his pure presence and strength. When you look we had a Gallagher on the pitch, Eaves gave him a footballing lesson of how you play target man. Gallagher is purely not good enough, never has been, and never likely to be.

Options..

Gayle from Newcastle, proven at this level and a loan to perm or even £3 or £4 million, gets you a central striker.

Maja or Healey or both in addition to Gayle. Thats 3 strikers, all with goals in them with a combined cost of less than £10 million.

With money on hip, im sure lots more options out there, and tapping them options up now, whilst we haven't sold Brereton, would be the wise move to ensure no inflated figure.

We are reliant on Brereton right now, but now missing for two games. We needed a proven Striker in the summer, still need one now, and thats with Brereton. Teams know our threat, and if they nulify Breretons threat, we end up with performances like the last three matches.

We are third in the table,  with the £15 million from Armstrong miraculously disappeared. The scenario is, if we dont go up they will sell Brereton in the summer, and just like Armstrong the money will not be reinvested. I struggle to see if they sell in January how they can justify not reinvesting half of it.

That being said, any deal would need doing within the next week, because if we go into transfer deadline day and he is still here, the club will have the ready made excuse it moved quickly and they couldnt get a replacement in.

We are in a fantastic position in the table, but are thin on the ground with quality options. A promotion team needs 4 or 5 players scoring double figures. We are always one injury away from bust (Brereton gets injured). Players will genuinely want to join a promotion chasing team, we need to use our league position to our advantage, be that reinvest the Armstrong money, or sell a major asset to reinvest in quality proven players at this level, in this window.

I don't thing the numbers being quoted on Brereton are likely though, he's had in essense 4 stunning months in the championship, from the buying clubs perspective thats a tough business case to make to stump up £20 mill plus

Unless they give the go ahead to pay at least 25k a week then no chance Gayle or players like him end up here.

If our max stays at 18-20k per week will struggle to get proven promotion quality.

We sell Brererton the big transfer fee out of that will be a similar signing as to what Brererton was a younger player with growth potential.

Nobody will pay 28 million for Brererton this window unless Newcastle get desperate

[davulsukur]

Tommy Doyle, another linked player, has joined Cardiff on loan

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

2 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Tommy Doyle, another linked player, has joined Cardiff on loan

I think that happened last week. Not really what we need unless it’s to give John Buckley a rest.

[glen9mullan]

I'd like Rovers to cast net too, some good strikers out there.

I like Adam Buksa, scoring regular now at club level and also broken into Polish first team and scoring, currently in America

Artem Dovbyk, be sensible money and again an international player

 

There are certainly top players outside of England who would fall in transfer and wage budget, and although can be seen more of a gamble, if it works out, then its very much in TMs words "what brentford do"

Edited January 20, 2022 by glen9mullan

[booth]

4 hours ago, neophox said:

West Ham may pay £28,5m for Brereton Diaz......would you sell?

Only if we can buy Mitrovic with it. 

[slowmo]

2 hours ago, islander200 said:

Nobody is paying 25 million+ for Brererton.

West ham will pay 25+ million for Brererton to be Antonio's understudy?I don't believe that.

Even if he was sold it would most very likely be another inexperienced player that would come in to replace him

I think until we return to the Premier league most of our signings will be young inexperienced players with potential

If we are sticking to our wage structure, we cannot afford the wages of players in their prime, who can impact the first team straight away. 

The only exception I see is in the foreign market, which is harder now.

A lot of forward planning needed (succession lines I believe TM reference to ) .

This is fine but not good for a quick fix as would be needed if BBD leaves this month.

 

[chaddyrovers]

42 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

That being said, any deal would need doing within the next week, because if we go into transfer deadline day and he is still here, the club will have the ready made excuse it moved quickly and they couldnt get a replacement in.

With Brereton away on international duty and very unlike to back in the country until Monday 31st January I would suggest a deal is unlikely. Plus why would West Ham play that sort of money for a back up player

43 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

We needed a proven Striker in the summer,

Depends who the manager/head coach is next summer and how we are going to play. 

31 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

I like Adam Buksa, scoring regular now at club level and also broken into Polish first team and scoring, currently in America

Artem Dovbyk, be sensible money and again an international player

2 interesting names mention and I needed to google them. I'm not sure they meet the Work Permit rules but I do agree that we should have plenty of options if we have money to spend. I like Maja as a number 9 striker and would like him here if we actually played with a proper number 9 

[DeeCee]

45 minutes ago, booth said:

Only if we can buy Mitrovic with it. 

Sell with a loan back till season's end? 🤦‍♀️

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Not at all. So by your opinion would Maja or Healey be able to play the role and how we play our strikers well enough as Khadra and Brereton have? Given that both are main centre strikers and IMO wouldn't fit how we play our strikers. 

I think we need to change formation like last night when we need an extra midfielder and should have taken off Rankin Costello off. 

Travis should be back and fit. What was the illness?

But if he not fit then play Davenport. 

no! tell them to come back in the summer if we don't get promote. 

I think if Gallagher and Brereton played you need a pacey centre player like Dolan like we had at the start of the season when we beat Swansea and Cardiff. But if Brereton is playing as the centre player with Gallagher on the right it won't work. 

I don't see why signing a striker has to be one of those 2. On Healey, like yourself I have never seen him play so I couldn't possibly comment on whether he would fit in. Maja I have seen a few times and perhaps he could yes with his pace a useful asset but it was reported in the LT last week that Bordeaux are only entertaining a permanent offer well beyond our budget so it is irrelevant.

Without Brereton, we only have Gallagher who is crap and then lots of small, winger types such as Khadra, Dolan and Markanday. One player that I mentioned who obviously is unobtainable but in terms of style that I think would suit us would be Solanke, works hard, quick, can run the channels, would provide physicality either with or in the absence of Brereton but crucially unlike all bar Brereton would offer a regular goal threat.

[RevidgeBlue]

7 hours ago, davulsukur said:

Not signing this lad then.

 

Doubt we were ever in for him.

[RevidgeBlue]

5 hours ago, neophox said:

West Ham may pay £28,5m for Brereton Diaz......would you sell?

Not a chance.

Why would you do that?

[chaddyrovers]

9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I don't see why signing a striker has to be one of those 2. On Healey, like yourself I have never seen him play so I couldn't possibly comment on whether he would fit in. Maja I have seen a few times and perhaps he could yes with his pace a useful asset but it was reported in the LT last week that Bordeaux are only entertaining a permanent offer well beyond our budget so it is irrelevant.

Without Brereton, we only have Gallagher who is crap and then lots of small, winger types such as Khadra, Dolan and Markanday. One player that I mentioned who obviously is unobtainable but in terms of style that I think would suit us would be Solanke, works hard, quick, can run the channels, would provide physicality either with or in the absence of Brereton but crucially unlike all bar Brereton would offer a regular goal threat.

Where did I say it only has been those 2 but its the 2 strikers we have been linked to recently. 

Did you know our budget for this window?

Where does a Solanke type striker fit into how Mowbray plays his 2 up front in the 3-5-2 formation we are currently playing and surely the only way this type of striker would suit us is in 4-3-3 formation? 

 

[slowmo]

5 hours ago, neophox said:

West Ham may pay £28,5m for Brereton Diaz......would you sell?

Hi , did you know something about a £28.5m price tag , as a Hammers site now saying it .

Just wondered if they got it from this forum ,  or there's more to it ?

 

https://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/1112699869?-11198:839

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, slowmo said:

Hi , did you know something about a £28.5m price tag , as a Hammers site now saying it .

Just wondered if they got it from this forum ,  or there's more to it ?

 

https://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/1112699869?-11198:839

Some clickbait site just recycling rumours to be found elsewhere on the Internet.

[Exiled_Rover]

5 hours ago, neophox said:

West Ham may pay £28,5m for Brereton Diaz......would you sell?

In a heartbeat.

I've been one of Brereton's most fervent defenders on here, but that's crazy money. 

[roversfan99]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Where did I say it only has been those 2 but its the 2 strikers we have been linked to recently. 

Did you know our budget for this window?

Where does a Solanke type striker fit into how Mowbray plays his 2 up front in the 3-5-2 formation we are currently playing and surely the only way this type of striker would suit us is in 4-3-3 formation? 

 

I dont understand firstly why you keep suggesting to move away from a successful formation. Obviously stick with 352.

I also dont get why there is any doubt over where a new striker would play. As one of the 2 forwards! Probably the right sided one, so in place of Khadra/Gallagher. 

[slowmo]

2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Some clickbait site just recycling rumours to be found elsewhere on the Internet.

Yes correct sorry it came from 

https://www.claretandhugh.info/rovers-give-irons-fee-for-striker-diaz/

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

In a heartbeat.

I've been one of Brereton's most fervent defenders on here, but that's crazy money. 

Why would you give up any chance of promotion for £28.5m ?

[jim mk2]

4 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

In a heartbeat.

I've been one of Brereton's most fervent defenders on here, but that's crazy money. 

Yes, you would take it, because he's not worth that. 

There's plenty of excellent strikers in the £5m - £10m range (still expensive for the Championship) you could get as a replacement and strengthen the squad in other areas

Every player has a price. £28m for Brereton.... you'd sign on the dotted line straightaway

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Why would you give up any chance of promotion for £28.5m ?

If we weren’t being run by the chicken chokers and we had a management team capable of spending that money wisely in such a short time scale I’d take it. That could get us three class players that would do more than one striker who’s hit and miss at the moment. Too many if’s in that idea though.

[RevidgeBlue]

8 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

If we weren’t being run by the chicken chokers and we had a management team capable of spending that money wisely in such a short time scale I’d take it. That could get us three class players that would do more than one striker who’s hit and miss at the moment. Too many if’s in that idea though.

You're reliant in that scenario on other Clubs being willing to sell 3 class players at this time of year, us being able to persuade them to join, being able to get all the deals done within a very limited timescale and said players all fitting in well and hitting the ground running.

Better recruitment departments than ours would struggle under those circumstances I think.

Edit: Plus 3 wages are a lot more expensive than one!

Edited January 20, 2022 by RevidgeBlue

[chaddyrovers]

16 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont understand firstly why you keep suggesting to move away from a successful formation. Obviously stick with 352.

I also dont get why there is any doubt over where a new striker would play. As one of the 2 forwards! Probably the right sided one, so in place of Khadra/Gallagher. 

because if you want main striker signing then we need a change formation to play them. 

We play our front 2 very different to how other teams played a front 2 in 3-5-2 like Boro or Stoke do so we need a forward who would fit into how we play our forwards. Our forwards have defensively duties to do

[roversfan99]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

because if you want main striker signing then we need a change formation to play them. 

We play our front 2 very different to how other teams played a front 2 in 3-5-2 like Boro or Stoke do so we need a forward who would fit into how we play our forwards. Our forwards have defensively duties to do

No you dont! Why would a forward automatically have no interest in doing this defensive duties? A striker playing in a 2 with Brereton with the number 10 behind them. Obviously one with pace who will work hard and one who perhaps can drift wide like Brereton on the other side.

I think you are being typically pedantic and implying that by saying "main striker" that there will be one in particular in the middle. Obviously I dont mean a big lump or someone only interested in poaching goals from close range.

[chaddyrovers]

6 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

No you dont! Why would a forward automatically have no interest in doing this defensive duties? A striker playing in a 2 with Brereton with the number 10 behind them. Obviously one with pace who will work hard and one who perhaps can drift wide like Brereton on the other side.

I think you are being typically pedantic and implying that by saying "main striker" that there will be one in particular in the middle. Obviously I dont mean a big lump or someone only interested in poaching goals from close range.

i have never mention a big lump or a poacher in my post. So you are being pedantic by keep mentioning it when I am talking and discussing how any new forwards need to be able to fit into how we play and the work rate, defensive duties they need to be able to do to fit into our front 2. 

We don't play as front 2 as normal as other clubs are doing but play wider in our 3-5-2 than QPR or Boro o Stoke do. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

30 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

You're reliant in that scenario on other Clubs being willing to sell 3 class players at this time of year, us being able to persuade them to join, being able to get all the deals done within a very limited timescale and said players all fitting in well and hitting the ground running.

Better recruitment departments than ours would struggle under those circumstances I think.

Edit: Plus 3 wages are a lot more expensive than one!

Kenny or Sparky or Big Sam could have done it. I accept that the people running the club at the moment probably couldn’t.