January Transfer window 2022

[RevidgeBlue]

3 minutes ago, TimmyJimmy said:

In business you can only control costs, you cannot control income. Income is mostly a random function, you can plan and forecast all you like but you cannot control it.

If there is no cap on wage costs and there's no money coming through the turnstiles then there's only one outcome - no more club.

Someone once said that for every question there is always one obvious, easily stated, readily understood WRONG answer. Blaming the club for having a wage policy is wrong, blaming the club for players not accepting modest terms is wrong. Blaming stay away fans for not putting cash into the coffers gets more traction with me though no doubt I'll be howled down for that thought.

IMO the owners, who have done plenty wrong at our club, have at least got this one right. We need a wage policy. They are throwing their own money away by not cashing in on the want-away players and all in a bid at giving us the best possible shot at promotion. Plus they're funding new arrivals within the restrictions of FFP. What more could be realistically asked for?

If Ewood was full every week then I'd be the first to criticise the club for allowing contracts to run down but it's not. We have to wee with the willy we've got. If the players go they go. See who else is out there and WANTS to play for our great club and let's get on with it. COYB.

Most of what you say is technically correct of course but that is even more reason for ensuring that your prize assets are looked after at the appropriate time and not at the last minute when all the power is in the players' hands.

£30 m worth of talent potentially walking out for free in summer if we don't go up.

[callumrovers]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

Most of what you say is technically correct of course but that is even more reason for ensuring that your prize assets are looked after at the appropriate time and not at the last minute when all the power is in the players' hands.

£30 m worth of talent potentially walking out for free in summer if we don't go up.

30 million? Lenihan, rothwell and naymbe are not worth 30 million combined

[RevidgeBlue]

Just now, callumrovers said:

30 million? Lenihan, rothwell and naymbe are not worth 30 million combined

They would be if they were under contract.

[callumrovers]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

They would be if they were under contract.

No they wouldn’t.

Lenihan 7 million 

Rothwell 7 million

Nayambe 7 million (that’s being generous)

[RevidgeBlue]

Think there's one already tbf.

Someone posts an inflammatory comment on here on the contract situation from either side and it snowballs from there.

Don't think we've detracted too much from transfer news over the last day or so as there doesn't seem to have been any.

Hopefully the calm before the storm!

[Tom]

Interesting argument to suggest JRC is better than Nyambe as he was getting picked ahead of him last season.

We were pretty dire last season, and lots of people did question JRC getting picked ahead of him at the time. And he was picked ahead of him while we are worse and now we are better Nyambe is playing isn’t too strong an argument.

Ryan has been an integral part of the defence that’s kept a ridiculous amount of clean sheets, the one game he didn’t play we lost, in part due to JRC giving a soft goal away.

Genuinely no comparison between them at this stage in each of their careers for me, JRC is a better crosser and passer maybe but Nyambe better in pretty much every other aspect, he’s an outlet and a threat down the flank even if the final ball can be lacking he can take two men out of the game,  holds the ball, is a beast physically and tracking back and trusted to be the last man on corners etc and never lets us down there.

Edited January 28, 2022 by Tom

[RevidgeBlue]

3 minutes ago, callumrovers said:

No they wouldn’t.

Lenihan 7 million 

Rothwell 7 million

Nayambe 7 million (that’s being generous)

I disagree but football's a game of opinions.

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

They would be if they were under contract.

Halve it

[Guest]

Do it Tony!

[RevidgeBlue]

18 minutes ago, Mellor Rover said:

Do it Tony!

According to the MEN his deal with Bournemouth was a loan with an OPTION to buy at £12m + £3m in add ons OR an OBLIGATION to buy at £9m + £12m in add ons IF they're promoted.

No idea if this particular player is any good but if he is then in theory given the one off position we're in, that's the sort of ambition we should be showing imo. (Elliott?)

Not Ryan bleeding Hedges.

[K-Hod]

For all those moralising and trying to police the content of the threads, please leave that to the mods.
We are currently fully staffed, so we don’t need you to step in for us, thanks.

Sometimes, threads go off on a tangent, so, if people end up talking about contracts in this thread, then let them.

Just so long as they aren’t being complete bell ends about it, it’s fine with me and luckily for me, that’s my call!

Happy Friday!

[RevidgeBlue]

3 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

For all those moralising and trying to police the content of the threads, leave that to the mods and we are currently fully staffed, so we don’t need you to step in for us thanks.

Sometimes, threads go off on a tangent, so, if people end up talking about contracts in this thread, then let them.

Just so long as they aren’t being complete bell ends about it, it’s fine with me and luckily for me, that’s my call!

Happy Friday!

Phew!

[Mashed Potatoes]

12 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

According to the MEN his deal with Bournemouth was a loan with an OPTION to buy at £12m + £3m in add ons OR an OBLIGATION to buy at £9m + £12m in add ons IF they're promoted.

No idea if this particular player is any good but if he is then in theory given the one off position we're in, that's the sort of ambition we should be showing imo. (Elliott?)

Not Ryan bleeding Hedges.

How does an obligation to buy work ? The player is not a piece of meat and cannot be forced to sign for a new club if he doesn't want to.

[super_badge]

5 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

How does an obligation to buy work ? The player is not a piece of meat and cannot be forced to sign for a new club if he doesn't want to.

It’s what the Brereton deal was wasn’t it? We had to buy him, he’d essentially already signed.

[JohnD]

https://www.teamtalk.com/newcastle-united/darragh-lenihan-exclusive-five-premier-league-clubs-chasing-blackburn-defender

 

Agent talking?

[Torgeir]

3 minutes ago, super_badge said:

It’s what the Brereton deal was wasn’t it? We had to buy him, he’d essentially already signed.

Transfer window closed but loan window still open so just a technicality if I remember correctly. 

[DE.]

20 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

How does an obligation to buy work ? The player is not a piece of meat and cannot be forced to sign for a new club if he doesn't want to.

Presumably the player agrees to contract terms before heading out on loan.

That or the club the player is being loaned to are obliged to put in an agreed offer no matter what, but the player can still reject contract terms and cause the transfer to fall through. 

Edited January 28, 2022 by DE.

[RoverRB]

18 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

How does an obligation to buy work ? The player is not a piece of meat and cannot be forced to sign for a new club if he doesn't want to.

Player agrees to it when they sign the initial loan agreement

[garnersfags]

8 minutes ago, JohnD said:

https://www.teamtalk.com/newcastle-united/darragh-lenihan-exclusive-five-premier-league-clubs-chasing-blackburn-defender

 

Agent talking?

Really not worth lisnin to this noise, but always happy to hear that any of the 3 are (possibly/probably?) staying. Hope that bit is true.

A fully retained squad with one or two additions will prob see us at least in play-offs....assuming we can keep the cuffs on Tinker-Tony...

 

[JohnD]

1 minute ago, garnersfags said:

Really not worth lisnin to this noise, but always happy to hear that any of the 3 are (possibly/probably?) staying. Hope that bit is true.

A fully retained squad with one or two additions will prob see us at least in play-offs....assuming we can keep the cuffs on Tinker-Tony...

 

I thought this noise would be a change from JRC 😂

[damo100]

36 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

For all those moralising and trying to police the content of the threads, please leave that to the mods.
We are currently fully staffed, so we don’t need you to step in for us, thanks.

Sometimes, threads go off on a tangent, so, if people end up talking about contracts in this thread, then let them.

Just so long as they aren’t being complete bell ends about it, it’s fine with me and luckily for me, that’s my call!

Happy Friday!

I presume that was aimed at me?

I never mentioned contracts, and I take it you've deleted my post

what ever happened to freedom of speech pal?

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

16 minutes ago, JohnD said:

https://www.teamtalk.com/newcastle-united/darragh-lenihan-exclusive-five-premier-league-clubs-chasing-blackburn-defender

 

Agent talking?

Decent squad player if they can get him on a free. If there was a decent fee involved I don’t think they’d  be so keen.

[Mashed Potatoes]

10 minutes ago, RoverRB said:

Player agrees to it when they sign the initial loan agreement

But surely the player has the right to subsequently change their mind as anybody who has accepted a job offer from a potential future employer can ?

To do a deal like this would mean agreeing with the player terms for playing in the Premier League when we have not had an opportunity to see if we like him - a deal to avoid for me.

[K-Hod]

9 minutes ago, damo100 said:

I presume that was aimed at me?

I never mentioned contracts, and I take it you've deleted my post

what ever happened to freedom of speech pal?

It’s just a general point, you weren’t the only poster raising this over the last few days.

I don’t think it’s as deep as freedom of speech, it’s just more me advising that threads go off on a tangent on the forum and explaining why, as it had been questioned. So I thought it would be prudent to shed some light.

[Guest]

46 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

According to the MEN his deal with Bournemouth was a loan with an OPTION to buy at £12m + £3m in add ons OR an OBLIGATION to buy at £9m + £12m in add ons IF they're promoted.

No idea if this particular player is any good but if he is then in theory given the one off position we're in, that's the sort of ambition we should be showing imo. (Elliott?)

Not Ryan bleeding Hedges.

Also that the clauses are broken due to him going back… good news!