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Dan Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 If I were the player, I wouldn’t want to leave; we’re in a great position at the moment and it’s an exciting time. There seems to be a great team spirit. I could leave and then end on Brentford’s bench all season, whilst watching my old team mates win the promotion battle. I’d definitely wait, it isn’t always about money. Maybe he thinks the wheels will come off and we’ll end up mid table? Players leaving adds to that possibility. Anyway, we’ve got a match to win soon and as much as Joe has been one of my favourite players, if he doesn’t want to be here then fuck off him off. Sell him to Brentford or reject any bid from Bournemouth and then let him finish up his contract in the reserves. We don’t need any passengers who aren’t in this 100% 5
neophox Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 5 hours ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said: https://www.brentfordfc.com/news/2022/january/mads-bidstrup-fc-nordsjalland-loan/ Announced this morning. So if you throw in a bid for Rothwell and Bidstrup going the other way and now he's gone to Denmark...surely not good enough then for us.
BlackburnEnd75 Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 Teams announced and the club still haven't put an excuse for Rothwells absence which makes me think there's something in the rumours.
G Somerset Rover Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 Not disappointed we missed out on that Bees lad - we have enough youth in the side. We need an experienced central midfielder for the run in. 1
Beanie01289 Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Wimbledon Rover said: These are the commercial realities of Joe Rothwell’s situation. 1) Joe’s transfer value if he was on a 4 year contract would be around £7-10m, on the current remaining 6 months he’s probably worth around £4m at best. 2) Joe is solely responsible for his position, we like to blame agents – but the reality is that it’s Joe’s decision whether he wants to sign or leave, that decision is up to him. He is not a victim. 3) Joe is not injured, neither was he last week. The club take the ‘injury explanation’ route simply to placate the fans and allow the player a way back to play for the club should he not move on. A true explanation “that Joe doesn’t want to play because he wants to sign a lucrative new contract with another club” wouldn’t particularly go down well, the injury explanation suits both parties for this period. 4) So what’s the tension? Well, the reality is Joe is on the verge of becoming a multi-millionaire with a new contract, and he is trying to squeeze every pip to maximize his commercial position. Run down his contract, and effectively that £4-£6 transfer fee gets converted into a signing on fee, or over inflated salary (not dissimilar to Aaron Ramsey and many other footballers) 5) The stakes are high though, because if he stays and sees out his contract, and then gets injured – that millionaire dream could quite easily slip away. So the reality is he doesn’t want to play – given that lack of security. Of course, he could sign with Rovers for security and then move on, but it’s because he’s choosing to 100% maximize his transfer value, that this standoff situation develops with club – some would argue that’s he’s being greedy. 6) But this is not good for the club either, because their leverage is close to zero, if the player claims injury and refuses to play then there is very little they can do. 7) Conclusion, sadly for us fans, I suspect the club will have little choice, but to sell Joe Rothwell in January. Hopefully as the club matures and grows (and lets aspire to being a Brentford) – the club will learn much from this period. Apologies for the depressing read, but these are the commercials realities – for record I hope Joe stays, and I am wrong! No the reality is we are paying his wages there is no excuse to refuse to play ( if indeed he has) if we go down the route you are describing then players should be paid based on appearance not weekly.
Miller11 Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 If there’s anything in the Rothwell to Brentford rumours I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see Marcus Forss come on loan the other way. He’s HSH’s golden boy.
1864roverite Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 Maybe just maybe the game today is far more important to the club than Rothwell non injury/transfer news/rabid speculation
G Somerset Rover Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) Absolutely crucial couple of days now if we’re serious about promotion. Time to sh*t or get off the pot. We cannot rely on the likes of Butterworth to turn matches. Edited January 29, 2022 by Gavlar Somerset Rover! 2
Mattyblue Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, 1864roverite said: Maybe just maybe the game today is far more important to the club than Rothwell non injury/transfer news/rabid speculation Well considering there wasn’t a single post in this thread between 3 and 5pm (apart from yours, funny enough!), then obviously that’s how the posters see it… Edited January 29, 2022 by Mattyblue
Guest Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 Time for Mr Park and co to make his money. Huge 2 days ahead.
RoversClitheroe Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mellor Rover said: Time for Mr Park and co to make his money. Huge 2 days ahead. Big 48 hours, I think we need 4 signings personally. 1
mick Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) Jack Wilshire on a pay as you play contract with options for next year. Premier league potential of Rovers should be inducement enough to bring him North. Just the kind of experience the team needs at the moment. Edited January 29, 2022 by mick 1
Guest Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, mick said: Jack Wiltshire on a pay as you play contract with options for next year. Premier league potential of Rovers should be inducement enough to bring him North. Just the kind of experience the team needs at the moment. Last time he played football? Another sick note, precisely what we don’t need I’m afraid.
bigbrandjohn Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 Diaz price will have consolidated after a goal against Argentina. Big decision. Sell him to West Ham and have two or three new players who take time to settle in. I believed he would come good, just not that good. Confidence and belief is everything for a striker. Rothwell to Bournemouth could make us money and cost us dearly. If he doesn’t go he could chuck his toys out. I don’t think he wants to stay even with extra money. Big decisions Monday but as Mark Cuban says “No balls, no babies “🤔
booth Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, bigbrandjohn said: Diaz price will have consolidated after a goal against Argentina. Big decision. Sell him to West Ham and have two or three new players who take time to settle in. I believed he would come good, just not that good. Confidence and belief is everything for a striker. Rothwell to Bournemouth could make us money and cost us dearly. If he doesn’t go he could chuck his toys out. I don’t think he wants to stay even with extra money. Big decisions Monday but as Mark Cuban says “No balls, no babies “🤔 Too late to sell him now and not make a massive dent in the side. I can't see us getting a solid replacement for him at this late stage. And they'll all be asking stupid money if we suddenly get £30m in the bank and know we're desperate for a replacement with the clock ticking down.
Guest Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 There you go straight from the horses mouth. Rothwell wants out.
booth Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Mellor Rover said: There you go straight from the horses mouth. Rothwell wants out. What a wanker. 7
Popular Post G Somerset Rover Posted January 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) FFS Joe. Four months mate. I hope his teammates are giving him grief. He’s really let us down today given how depleted we were. Edited January 29, 2022 by Gavlar Somerset Rover! 10
J*B Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 As I said, Rothwell had a bust up and has requested to move. Mowbray furious. For those that I’ve got wrong, I’ll take this one… unfortunately. 6
1864roverite Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 28 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: Well considering there wasn’t a single post in this thread between 3 and 5pm (apart from yours, funny enough!), then obviously that’s how the posters see it… I was on the train home and checked in!
G Somerset Rover Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) I’m sorry but there’s ways to go about it. You don’t act like that when we can barely cobble together a squad for such an important game. F*ck yourself, Joe. Edited January 29, 2022 by Gavlar Somerset Rover! 2
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