RevidgeBlue Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, den said: If you’re looking for someone to blame for this, I have one. Jean Marc Bosman. Den, you mentioned Fred Pick before. It was slightly before my time but I'd imagine there's a huge difference. Back then I guess we needed to sell to survive. The difference here is Venky's don't need the relatively nominal fee we'll get for Rothwell. We haven't sold for financial reasons, we've done it because Mowbray has seemingly persuaded the owners he can be clever and wheel and deal to improve the squad. Whether or not that can actually be done remains to be seen. I'm expecting the excuse that everything happened too close to the end of the window to do anything much tomorrow. Hope I'm wrong. Edited January 30, 2022 by RevidgeBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sharpysharps86 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Very disappointing to see Rothwell heading to a promotion rival. He has been such a key player for us this season with those surging runs. Yes it's a big loss but our position in the table hopefully gives us a better chance of bringing in some better standard of players, even if just loans for the remainder of the season. Looking forward to seeing Hedges play, and the return of Dack will hopefully ease pressure on the more attack minded players. I just hope we can bring someone in tomorrow that fills the void that Rothwell will leave, as I was already pretty concerned at Bradley Johnson being the replacement for the last two games! (Nothing against him, he's actually done ok considering his legs have gone). Fingers crosses for an exciting and positive conclusion tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roverinsider Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Have it on very good authority we were in for Dembele yesterday. Grimsby have a large sell on clause but appears he’ll switch to Bournemouth instead of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booth Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, AdamRochina said: 1.5mil, wow what a steal Some Bournemouth fans whinging about signing a "league 1 player", the entitled twats. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversfan99 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Well, yes, apologies for the profanity but that doesn't change my view on it one iota. I'm beyond incandescent. It would be bad enough selling to your main promotion rivals in itself but when your sat 2nd in the table for the first time in a decade and the manager who should be fighting tooth and nail to keep the side together seemingly has talked the owners who didn't want to sell into a sale.............. If a Burnley fan was trying to write a sitcom taking the piss out of Rovers he simply couldn't top that. The owners shouldnt be interfering, that is the simple truth. There are pros and cons to the idea of selling Rothwell. Ultimately the key is in the replacement or replacements, to make sure that we arent weakened. The main bonus would be from the scenario that Mowbray mentioned that we would have 2 long term signings. Obviously the difficulty is in replacing him with similar quality. I doubt a Burnley fan would take the piss by having us in second place. 2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Did they buy Dembele as well? Good window for them. Meanwhile we're scratching around with a loan or two and a couple of cheap punts. Could all change tomorrow of course but based on past performance I'm not hopeful. It will be interesting to see what our net spend is at close of play tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, booth said: They've had a fee agreed, he'll be there for talks at the same time as Rothwell I imagine. £1.5m apparently. It’s one thing signing players, it’s another thing incorporating them into a coherent style of play. Especially with several attacking players all coming in at once. Edited January 30, 2022 by Tyrone Shoelaces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booth Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 What have we spent so far on permanents? £700,000 - Markanday and Hedges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booth Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: It’s one thing signing players, it’s another thing incorporating them into a coherent style of play. Especially with attacking players. That's alright because Scott Parker specialises in an incoherent style of play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) Whoever replaces Rothwell will probably be another utility type midfielder who can slot in a number of round holes with his square peg. TM loves these types and they are usually cheap and i think when are using the word replacement it's a bit misguided. He'll replace the spot in the squad and use the wage room but it won't be an attempt at anything like for like. Edited January 30, 2022 by tomphil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Den, you mentioned Fred Pick before. It was slightly before my time but I'd imagine there's a huge difference. Back then I guess we needed to sell to survive. The difference here I'd Venky's don't need the relatively nominal fee we'll get for Rothwell. We haven't sold for financial reasons, we've done it because Mowbray has seemingly persuaded the owners he can be clever and wheel and deal to improve the squad. Whether or not that can actually be done remains to be seen. I'm expecting the excuse that everything happened too close to the end of the window to do anything much tomorrow. Hope I'm wrong. Tyrone mentioned Pickering and I pointed out the difference was at that time that he couldn’t walk away in 6 months time. I doubt Mowbray has persuaded the owners of anything other than he doesn’t want Rothwell around the squad. I’m guessing that’s probably all there is to it. If he can find somebody probably on loan at this stage, then fair enough. Im not in favour of Selling him Rev, but hey ho, that’s modern football. Player power rules. Edited January 30, 2022 by den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldjamfan1 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just parking the Rothwell saga for a minute. I asked a couple of people who watch a lot of SPL football (and who’s opinion I respect) what they thought of Hedges and they reckon he is a decent player who will do well at championship level. One of them is an ex pro so should know what he is talking about. Fingers crossed they are right! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrenbot Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 48 minutes ago, Madon said: I'd probably say this one most likely isn't on Venkys. Sounds to me as though it's TM that has had the final say and Venkys initially didn't want to sell to anyone, especially Bournemouth, but TM has talked them round. There will be money spent tomorrow. I think this confirms Mowbray has a contract extension in the bag at the end of the season,i can't see the owners doing what he says and letting one of our best players go to a rival if he was being potted at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevidgeBlue Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: It will be interesting to see what our net spend is at close of play tomorrow. It certainly will. So far it's + £2.5m? £3.3 m in for Rothwell less 800k for Markanday and Hedges? To say we need a big day tomorrow is the understatement of all time. Around £12.5m to be spent tomorrow then. 🙄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebruce Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, tomphil said: Whoever replaces Rothwell will probably be another utility type midfielder who can slot in a number of round holes with his square peg. TM loves these types and they are usually cheap and i think when people are saying the word replacement it's a bit misguided. He'll replace the spot in the squad and use the wage room but it won't be an attempt at anything like for like. In fairness, players of Rothwell's style are rare beasts. I'd settle for someone of overall similar ability (or better/more consistent) and with an attacking mindset. Ideally with a bit of money left over to fill other trouble spots. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torgeir Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, tomphil said: Whoever replaces Rothwell will probably be another utility type midfielder who can slot in a number of round holes with his square peg. TM loves these types and they are usually cheap and i think when people are saying the word replacement it's a bit misguided. He'll replace the spot in the squad and use the wage room but it won't be an attempt at anything like for like. Not so sure. Think he'll want a high energy box to box midfielder who can chip in with a few goals and assists over the course of a season. We're a lot more predictable when our pacey players are out, so I'm sure he'll want another quick player to hit teams on the break. But we don't offer the fees or wages to attract the hottest prospects. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Yorks Rover Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said: Just parking the Rothwell saga for a minute. I asked a couple of people who watch a lot of SPL football (and who’s opinion I respect) what they thought of Hedges and they reckon he is a decent player who will do well at championship level. One of them is an ex pro so should know what he is talking about. Fingers crossed they are right! Looks to have a decent shot on him and gets em off pretty quickly too. Edited January 30, 2022 by West Yorks Rover 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrenbot Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, davulsukur said: Only thing we know for certain about tomorrow is that I won't be getting any bloody work done! I'm off work this week so i'll be waiting all day for signings on here only to probably get one rushed loan signing at 10.59. Edited January 30, 2022 by Darrenbot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pick32 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Jack Wilshere on a 5month deal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraserkirky Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Tomorrow is gonna be mayhem in here, can’t wait 🍿 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander200 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, pick32 said: Jack Wilshere on a 5month deal Might be match fit by the Bournemouth game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CambridgeRover Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Fpp plus parachute payments is absolute dogshit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair supporter supremo Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said: Just parking the Rothwell saga for a minute. I asked a couple of people who watch a lot of SPL football (and who’s opinion I respect) what they thought of Hedges and they reckon he is a decent player who will do well at championship level. One of them is an ex pro so should know what he is talking about. Fingers crossed they are right! Funny how scots talk about the championship as though it's below spl standard 😄 when most teams in the spl are probably just division 1 standard at best and even celtic and rangers are just championship standard really 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldjamfan1 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, Armchair supporter supremo said: Funny how scots talk about the championship as though it's below spl standard 😄 when most teams in the spl are probably just division 1 standard at best and even celtic and rangers are just championship standard really I don’t think that’s what they either said or meant to be fair mate. Both these guys have forgotten more about football than I ever knew. And as an aside my two sons are both season ticket holders at Celtic Park and are of the view that Celtic are about on a par with Rovers at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, bluebruce said: In fairness, players of Rothwell's style are rare beasts. I'd settle for someone of overall similar ability (or better/more consistent) and with an attacking mindset. Ideally with a bit of money left over to fill other trouble spots. Yep that's true that's why it's a shame to lose him and Mowbray has tried multiple things in his time here but not many have come off like Rothwell this season. My point really though is i'd like something a bit different rather than just another run of the mill player whose there just to fill in different positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebruce Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, West Yorks Rover said: Looks to have a decent shot on him and gets em off pretty quickly too. I'm not interested in how good a stripper he is. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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