Burnley crowds

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

50 minutes ago, Aqualung said:

Going back to the 90s I borrowed a couple of books from a Rovers supporting mate of mine. One book was about all rovers league tables since when and the other was about Burnley. Both included attendances. 

I looked at the season when Burnley last won the league and compared the gates we got against theirs. 

Now, if my memories serve me right, when Burnley won the league in was is 1960/61....????.....where did we finish? 7th or 8th.

When I totted up the league and cups attendances for that season and averaged them out Rovers averaged appx 7000 more per home game than Burnley. 

Tit for tat I know. Just hope I remembered rightly. 

I’m surprised by that. I’d have said they would have been roughly equal at the best. That was the season after the Wembley ticket debacle when lots of Rovers fans walked away from the club.

Edited December 2, 2021 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[Claytons Left Boot]

10 hours ago, Aqualung said:

Going back to the 90s I borrowed a couple of books from a Rovers supporting mate of mine. One book was about all rovers league tables since when and the other was about Burnley. Both included attendances. 

I looked at the season when Burnley last won the league and compared the gates we got against theirs. 

Now, if my memories serve me right, when Burnley won the league in was is 1960/61....????.....where did we finish? 7th or 8th.

When I totted up the league and cups attendances for that season and averaged them out Rovers averaged appx 7000 more per home game than Burnley. 

Tit for tat I know. Just hope I remembered rightly. 

Don’t think that’s correct mate. The only thing they’ve got on us is that their highest average attendance for a season is higher than ours. 32k when they won the league in 1960, against our 30k in 1958-59.

Other than that, old Ewood was bigger than old Turf Moor, new Ewood is bigger than new Turf Moor, our record attendance is bigger than theirs and our major honours blow them out the water, 10 to their paltry 3. Their trophy cabinet is full of dust.

[Gav]

You need look no further than these stadium busting gates from the mid 80's, absolutely pathetic, I've seen more at Mill Hill St Peters. 

19 December 1986	Cardiff City (H)	1–3	Hoskin 65'	1,717
26 December 1986	Wrexham (A)	2–2	Parker 64', Murphy 71'	4,568
27 December 1986	Crewe Alexandra (H)	4–0	Murphy 16', Hoskin 47', James 67', Malley 76'	2,560
1 January 1987	Rochdale (H)	0–3		4,217
3 January 1987	Lincoln City (A)	1–2	Murphy 15'	2,343
24 January 1987	Hereford United (H)	0–6		1,961
31 January 1987	Hartlepool United (A)	2–2	Malley 10', Grewcock 40'	1,506
6 February 1987	Swansea City (A)	2–2	Murphy 29', Hoskin 58'	6,015
14 February 1987	Wolverhampton Wanderers (H)	2–5	James 15', Grewcock 22'	2,947
21 February 1987	Halifax Town (A)	2–2	James 62', Grewcock 81'	1,735
28 February 1987	Tranmere Rovers (H)	2–2	Grewcock 33', Rodaway 40'	2,394
4 March 1987	Peterborough United (A)	1–1	Grewcock 60'	4,304
7 March 1987	Exeter City (H)	0–0		1,792
13 March 1987	Stockport County (A)	1–0	Hoskin 16'	2,500
17 March 1987	Northampton Town (H)	2–1	Hoskin 39', Gallagher 70'	2,691
21 March 1987	Aldershot (H)	0–1		2,690
28 March 1987	Preston North End (A)	1–2	Parker 75'	10,716
4 April 1987	Cambridge United (H)	0–2		1,874

[AllRoverAsia]

Rovers: http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/league/blar.htm

Dingles: https://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/league/burn.htm

and whilst we're at it and for a further laugh:

https://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/league/pne.htm

 

Edited December 3, 2021 by AllRoverAsia

[47er]

35 minutes ago, Gav said:

You need look no further than these stadium busting gates from the mid 80's, absolutely pathetic, I've seen more at Mill Hill St Peters. 

19 December 1986	Cardiff City (H)	1–3	Hoskin 65'	1,717
26 December 1986	Wrexham (A)	2–2	Parker 64', Murphy 71'	4,568
27 December 1986	Crewe Alexandra (H)	4–0	Murphy 16', Hoskin 47', James 67', Malley 76'	2,560
1 January 1987	Rochdale (H)	0–3		4,217
3 January 1987	Lincoln City (A)	1–2	Murphy 15'	2,343
24 January 1987	Hereford United (H)	0–6		1,961
31 January 1987	Hartlepool United (A)	2–2	Malley 10', Grewcock 40'	1,506
6 February 1987	Swansea City (A)	2–2	Murphy 29', Hoskin 58'	6,015
14 February 1987	Wolverhampton Wanderers (H)	2–5	James 15', Grewcock 22'	2,947
21 February 1987	Halifax Town (A)	2–2	James 62', Grewcock 81'	1,735
28 February 1987	Tranmere Rovers (H)	2–2	Grewcock 33', Rodaway 40'	2,394
4 March 1987	Peterborough United (A)	1–1	Grewcock 60'	4,304
7 March 1987	Exeter City (H)	0–0		1,792
13 March 1987	Stockport County (A)	1–0	Hoskin 16'	2,500
17 March 1987	Northampton Town (H)	2–1	Hoskin 39', Gallagher 70'	2,691
21 March 1987	Aldershot (H)	0–1		2,690
28 March 1987	Preston North End (A)	1–2	Parker 75'	10,716
4 April 1987	Cambridge United (H)	0–2		1,874

Different times Gav. Attendances everywhere up since then. Poor stadiums, fan violence. Not seen as a family day out!

 

[tomphil]

2 hours ago, Gav said:

You need look no further than these stadium busting gates from the mid 80's, absolutely pathetic, I've seen more at Mill Hill St Peters. 

19 December 1986	Cardiff City (H)	1–3	Hoskin 65'	1,717
26 December 1986	Wrexham (A)	2–2	Parker 64', Murphy 71'	4,568
27 December 1986	Crewe Alexandra (H)	4–0	Murphy 16', Hoskin 47', James 67', Malley 76'	2,560
1 January 1987	Rochdale (H)	0–3		4,217
3 January 1987	Lincoln City (A)	1–2	Murphy 15'	2,343
24 January 1987	Hereford United (H)	0–6		1,961
31 January 1987	Hartlepool United (A)	2–2	Malley 10', Grewcock 40'	1,506
6 February 1987	Swansea City (A)	2–2	Murphy 29', Hoskin 58'	6,015
14 February 1987	Wolverhampton Wanderers (H)	2–5	James 15', Grewcock 22'	2,947
21 February 1987	Halifax Town (A)	2–2	James 62', Grewcock 81'	1,735
28 February 1987	Tranmere Rovers (H)	2–2	Grewcock 33', Rodaway 40'	2,394
4 March 1987	Peterborough United (A)	1–1	Grewcock 60'	4,304
7 March 1987	Exeter City (H)	0–0		1,792
13 March 1987	Stockport County (A)	1–0	Hoskin 16'	2,500
17 March 1987	Northampton Town (H)	2–1	Hoskin 39', Gallagher 70'	2,691
21 March 1987	Aldershot (H)	0–1		2,690
28 March 1987	Preston North End (A)	1–2	Parker 75'	10,716
4 April 1987	Cambridge United (H)	0–2		1,874

Great fans, always there in the darkest times you'd never get that lot climbing on any bandwagons.

[JHRover]

3 hours ago, 47er said:

Different times Gav. Attendances everywhere up since then. Poor stadiums, fan violence. Not seen as a family day out!

 

Agree although many at Rovers can't wait to produce attendance stats from the 80s to help explain/justify dire attendances in 2021.

As you say times have changed and if the benchmark is what was happening in the 80s then we are on a slippery slope. Football is a different game and most clubs have seen substantial increases since then even when at a similar level in the pyramid.

[Wheelton Blue]

Rovers, Burnley, Preston, Bolton are all generally much of a muchness attendance wise. Blackpool perhaps not so much.

[Gav]

6 hours ago, 47er said:

Different times Gav. Attendances everywhere up since then. Poor stadiums, fan violence. Not seen as a family day out!

 

They were getting less than 2000 for league games, different times or not, thats bloody appalling for the biggest and best supported club in the world 47er.

[Aqualung]

47 minutes ago, Gav said:

They were getting less than 2000 for league games, different times or not, thats bloody appalling for the biggest and best supported club in the world 47er.

Colne Dynamoes had more on for some games. 

[Boroblue]

9 hours ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Rovers: http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/league/blar.htm

Dingles: https://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/league/burn.htm

and whilst we're at it and for a further laugh:

https://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/league/pne.htm

 

I’ll add to that the big crowds at the end of the 60s beginning of the 70s was due to us. In that time blackburn supporters used to follow them because they believed  we where one and the same. I used to go onto the beehole with 20 or 30 of my dads friends who were rovers season tickets holders and they would cheer Burnley. The beehive during the time of Peter noble ,frank casper and Ralph Coates was almost entirely rovers fans

They where the ones who changed the dynamics when things changed and they where no longer top dog. Rather than returning the favour they turned nasty and where we are now is because of them.

[blondie]

8 minutes ago, Boroblue said:

 

They where the ones who changed the dynamics when things changed and they where no longer top dog. Rather than returning the favour they turned nasty and where we are now is because of them.

Agree, having worked in Burnley for 40 years, the early 70's was banter and friendly rivalry, however once we gained the ascendancy it turned.

[rigger]

24 minutes ago, blondie said:

Agree, having worked in Burnley for 40 years, the early 70's was banter and friendly rivalry, however once we gained the ascendancy it turned.

I remember as a kid in the seventies, Bolton was always more hassle than Burnley.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

32 minutes ago, blondie said:

Agree, having worked in Burnley for 40 years, the early 70's was banter and friendly rivalry, however once we gained the ascendancy it turned.

'Worked'?....😉

[Mike E]

46 minutes ago, Boroblue said:

I’ll add to that the big crowds at the end of the 60s beginning of the 70s was due to us. In that time blackburn supporters used to follow them because they believed  we where one and the same. I used to go onto the beehole with 20 or 30 of my dads friends who were rovers season tickets holders and they would cheer Burnley. The beehive during the time of Peter noble ,frank casper and Ralph Coates was almost entirely rovers fans

They where the ones who changed the dynamics when things changed and they where no longer top dog. Rather than returning the favour they turned nasty and where we are now is because of them.

Yep, my dad always used to go to Burnley if they were at home and Rovers weren't, even still in a Rovers jersey. Couldn't do that now, couldn't even go to the town centre!

[Upside Down]

8 hours ago, JHRover said:

Agree although many at Rovers can't wait to produce attendance stats from the 80s to help explain/justify dire attendances in 2021.

As you say times have changed and if the benchmark is what was happening in the 80s then we are on a slippery slope. Football is a different game and most clubs have seen substantial increases since then even when at a similar level in the pyramid.

To be fair a lot of fans are staying away from Rovers deliberately in protest. A lot of them would still be going regularly, maybe even season ticket holders, under different circumstances. 

 

Unlike suuupoh Bonleh I can't remember any Rovers fans claiming to be the best fans in the world.

Edited December 3, 2021 by Upside Down

[47er]

6 hours ago, Gav said:

They were getting less than 2000 for league games, different times or not, thats bloody appalling for the biggest and best supported club in the world 47er.

No argument there Gav, my comments were directed at your list of rovers attendances!!

[47er]

1 hour ago, Mike E said:

Yep, my dad always used to go to Burnley if they were at home and Rovers weren't, even still in a Rovers jersey. Couldn't do that now, couldn't even go to the town centre!

Yes, had to believe now. I knew people who followed Rovers one Saturday and Burnley the next. Some had season tickets for both.

[Upside Down]

As with most of our neighbours, jealousy is a cruel mistress.