arbitro Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Silas said: I can see that. Portrays the down to earth image, but could see him being a right grumpy git with little time for lower level underlings. He does come across as quite arrogant sometimes, considering his standing in the football industry. I suppose there is a fine line between confidence and arrogance though. Yes I see it that way too. It's akin to Ferguson who ruled the roost in pretty much every area of the club and became untouchable, invincible almost. The previous owners perhaps were prepared to give him that kind of latitude because they understood his value to the club. 2 Quote
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Tyrone Shoelaces Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said: Allardyce has nothing left to offer football and practically retired years ago but still pops up when he gets sniff of a big payday. I find it very funny/ironic that our fiercest rivals are close to becoming a freakshow, they spent the last 10 years bathing in our misfortunes!! Like a keep telling a dingle mate - “ Nothing is forever in life, especially in football, laugh at us whilst you can “. Most clubs have their time in the sun and then it’s over for a while. Decision making in football is like a big game of snakes and ladders. You keep landing on snakes and you end up on the bottom level. 9 Quote
Claytons Left Boot Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 Clubs like Burnley have a shelf life in the top flight and it’s not a long one. Most of the Premier League clubs are now owned by multi billionaires with the cash to splash on top quality (usually foreign) players. Liverpool and Man City have set the bench mark in the style of continental type football that has become the norm. Burnley have never had the financial clout to try and do this, hence Sean Dyche and his very fit, very organised, very energetic, very good-at-set-pieces but very ordinary players. This brand of football doesn’t last forever, so clubs like Norwich, Burnley, Brentford, Bournemouth (they’ll be down again), Watford etc. know they have to enjoy it while it lasts. The hierarchy in the Premier League is set, now, largely on wealth. Very sad but very sweet that the trapdoors are now opening for the Clarettes. 3 Quote
davulsukur Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: It appears that Dingles don't have anyone line up before the sacked him which is a massive mistake by their hierarchy. Its appears they want Allardyce to come in and save them. Not sure he will come back but I have seen Talksport reported that Bilic is interested in the job there. I think that is excellent suggestion or someone like WBA or QPR. Why are there so many stupid football owners? I mean, we have some of the worst but binning SD at such a crucial junction in the season and not have someone already lined up to step in is madness. Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, davulsukur said: Why are there so many stupid football owners? I mean, we have some of the worst but binning SD at such a crucial junction in the season and not have someone already lined up to step in is madness. they see football as a business,for reasons i can never figure out,i doubt their is any professional club in the whole world that runs on a profit,if there is one then it`s not in the higher echelons of the game,to be successful you`ve got to spend money,in the pre 1992 days it was usually the local business man who`d made his fortune and retired that bankrolled his local club,today it`s naive billionaires who think they can turn the club into a worldwide name,i.e the maniac who took over hull and tried to market them into a megabrand hull tigers Quote
roversfan99 Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 A quite baffling decision. I love it. 4 Quote
booth Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 (edited) Echoes of the Venky takeover but Rovers were in no danger of relegation and as yet, ALK haven’t put a fox in charge of the chicken coop. Edited April 16, 2022 by booth Quote
matt83 Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 Even if this lot do a Venkys and turn Burnley into a total shambles they’ll always be 12 years of misery behind us and unlikely to catch up. 3 Quote
DeeCee Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 BBC F.A. Cup quote " as of yesterday, Jürgen Klopp is the longest serving manager in the Prem" 😂 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 3 hours ago, davulsukur said: Why are there so many stupid football owners? I mean, we have some of the worst but binning SD at such a crucial junction in the season and not have someone already lined up to step in is madness. Burnley owners are in full panic mode over the financially impact of relegation and how they finance buying the club in the first place Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 On 15/04/2022 at 13:23, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Too late I think, even for Big Sam. I disagree. They still have games, where they can get something and Everton's run -in is a nightmare... Quote
Backroom Mike E Posted April 16, 2022 Backroom Posted April 16, 2022 7 hours ago, Silas said: I can see that. Portrays the down to earth image, but could see him being a right grumpy git with little time for lower level underlings. He does come across as quite arrogant sometimes, considering his standing in the football industry. I suppose there is a fine line between confidence and arrogance though. There's a Clough quote for everything: 'Some think I'm confident, some say arrogant. What's the difference? Cassius Clay is arrogant but we love him because he's bloody good at what he does.' 3 Quote
booth Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 3 hours ago, matt83 said: Even if this lot do a Venkys and turn Burnley into a total shambles they’ll always be 12 years of misery behind us and unlikely to catch up. Some think they will freefall through the leagues as they believe ALK have no money. Quote
matt83 Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 31 minutes ago, booth said: Some think they will freefall through the leagues as they believe ALK have no money. God I hope so. The natural order resumes. Speaking of which I genuinely never saw a Burnley shirt in Clitheroe from the 90s until effectively their promotion. See a few these days. 🤮. On that note grew up with loads of manure/lpool shirts but recently, literally today, noticed loads of citeh shirts. Clearly they’ve been at the apex long enough it’s filtered down to the sticks. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 I have read an article that suggested that Cornet was ALK signing and not a Dyche signing. Also in the article that Dyche working relationship with Mike Garlick had been rock bottom which he sold the club. Dyche no longer attended board meetings under the new regime Dyche lost Burnley players after 2018 Europa League exit (msn.com) Quote
Backroom DE. Posted April 16, 2022 Backroom Posted April 16, 2022 Dyche clearly didn't lose the players 3 years ago and the article doesn't even say that specifically. Extremely clickbaity headline. That aside, I've been seeing all the same nonsense as we got here when Allardyce was sacked. Same old story of owners wanting champagne football on a beer budget. It rarely ends well. 1 Quote
speeeeeeedie Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 9 hours ago, arbitro said: Yes I see it that way too. It's akin to Ferguson who ruled the roost in pretty much every area of the club and became untouchable, invincible almost. The previous owners perhaps were prepared to give him that kind of latitude because they understood his value to the club. I read a really good article on Dyche's approach sometime last year. From what I remember Ian Woan does most of the work and Dyche usually stays away until the day before a game when he comes in and picks the team. Apparently his scarcity added to his allure and how players responded to him. I also saw an article in a national newspaper ranking all Prem managers by their watch. Dyche had the most expensive one. Why would they sack him now? He had only won 1 or 2 games by the turn of the year. What makes the owner think that someone will come in and magically win 4 out of 7? I have a Burnley supporting mate who has been singing the same tune as Longsiders since August; this season will be their last in the Prem. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, speeeeeeedie said: I read a really good article on Dyche's approach sometime last year. From what I remember Ian Woan does most of the work and Dyche usually stays away until the day before a game when he comes in and picks the team. Apparently his scarcity added to his allure and how players responded to him. I also saw an article in a national newspaper ranking all Prem managers by their watch. Dyche had the most expensive one. Why would they sack him now? He had only won 1 or 2 games by the turn of the year. What makes the owner think that someone will come in and magically win 4 out of 7? I have a Burnley supporting mate who has been singing the same tune as Longsiders since August; this season will be their last in the Prem. Similar to how Hughes ran things at Ewood Park. 1 Quote
Armchair supporter supremo Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Exiled_Rover said: Similar to how Hughes ran things at Ewood Park. That's how Allardyce normally works as well isnt it!? Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted April 16, 2022 Posted April 16, 2022 A thread about Burnley taking top spot on a Rovers MB..times are bad folks! 2 Quote
J*B Posted April 17, 2022 Posted April 17, 2022 10 hours ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said: A thread about Burnley taking top spot on a Rovers MB..times are bad folks! Agreed - whoever did that, you’re under review!! 1 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted April 17, 2022 Posted April 17, 2022 (edited) It sounds like there’s been a massive clear out behind the scenes at Burnley. The guy who was chief exec at my rugby league club was a Burnley fan and a few years ago he left to take up a job there on the commercial side. His dream job apparently. I hadn’t seen him since he left our club but recently he’s rocked up at Rochdale AFC, again in some sort of commercial role. Next time I see him I’ll ask him about the goings on at the dingledome. Edited April 17, 2022 by Tyrone Shoelaces Quote
Wheelton Blue Posted April 17, 2022 Posted April 17, 2022 (edited) Without question, it's a massive gamble getting rid of Dyche. It's not all over yet, though. There's plenty of points left to play for and they're only 4 behind Everton with 8 to play. Someone could come in, fancy the challenge, and perfrom a miracle. Who knows? I'll only be getting the jelly out when relegation is a done deal... Edited April 17, 2022 by Wheelton Blue Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted April 17, 2022 Posted April 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said: Without question, it's a massive gamble getting rid of Dyche. It's not all over yet, though. There's plenty of points left to play for and they're only 4 behind Everton with 8 to play. Someone could come in, fancy the challenge, and perfrom a miracle. Who knows? I'll only be getting the jelly out when relegation is a done deal... I agree. For a start it’s a really good time to play West Ham. They’re playing far too many games for a squad their size. Injuries are starting to pile up. Quote
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