January Transfer Deadline Day 2022

[RevidgeBlue]

8 minutes ago, booth said:

We may ride our luck with Travis but Kaminski would be a huge loss.

I think you can just about gamble lightning won't strike twice before the end of the season with Kaminsky and that he won't pick up an injury that'll keep him out for a while but not the other two outfield players.

Decent cover for TK would still have been preferable though.

[islander200]

1 minute ago, bluebruce said:

I'm not sure about invariably. Even with BBD for most of it, we only scored 2 goals in the league in January, in 5 games. Goals have dried up lately as it is, let alone if our 20 goal man was out.

Brererton played in most those matches.We weren't creating any chances...would a Goalscorer have made much of a difference with the chances created.

We haven't been thumping teams.My view is this promotion push is built on the strength of our defence and hopefully with or without Brererton we will have enough to win games if we keep things tight at the back.

Armstrong 28 goals 15th.Rhodes and Gestede 40 between them no playoffs.Brereton scoring regularly pre Fulham 12th.

Obviously hope Brererton doesn't get injured and we are a better side with him in it but just think with our budget whoever came in yesterday would have been a gamble wether they score goals or not.To Guarantee the goal scoring anything like Brererton would have been millions.

Loans like Forss and Maja guarantee nothing 

[Paul Mellelieu]

2 hours ago, booth said:

Because we didn’t move our arses to use it?

But hey everything’s just dandy if Brereton gets injured.

We're all doomed.

[darrenrover]

3 hours ago, booth said:

By advanced forwards, do you mean players who don't score many goals?

Does it much matter who scores the goals as long as we do?

If we keep clean sheets most games, as we've become accustomed recently, we don't need to score many to carry home 3 points!

I really don't get the current negativity from some after 11 years of absolute shit!

[RoverKyle]

5 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Loans like Forss and Maja guarantee nothing 

That's the same with any signing. There are no guarantees that they'll work out. However not making a signing in that area of the pitch guarantees that we're more at risk of failure in that area. 

[Vilesinner]

35 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Why is it nonsense?

He's 26 and has NEVER scored more than 11 League goals. That was the season he was with us.

In fact hat's, that's the ONLY time He's hit double figures as well.

And how good had the team been previously?

Last year he was played horribly out of position.

The striker we were after has scored 5 in 20. Gallagher has scored 6 with a good few less starts. 

I am certain Gallagher would feed off Giles very well. 

[Gav]

5 minutes ago, darrenrover said:

 

I really don't get the current negativity from some after 11 years of absolute shit!

I think its because of the absolute shite that some feel we've missed a golden opportunity here darren.

We are both long enough in the tooth to realise this is going to be a slog from now until May and we'll probably fall short on the automatic places sadly, but I'd rather be where we are now, than in a relegation dog fight where many posters had us.

Tony Mowbray has done a phenomenal this season, the players have responded to the challenge and we have a bit of pride back into the club and town, thats enough for me right now to be honest.

Onwards and upwards.   

[Mike E]

8 minutes ago, darrenrover said:

Does it much matter who scores the goals as long as we do?

If we keep clean sheets most games, as we've become accustomed recently, we don't need to score many to carry home 3 points!

I really don't get the current negativity from some after 11 years of absolute shit!

It's the Blackburn way: 'If it's not raining today, it will rain tomorrow.'

Glad I'm a darrener.

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, Mike E said:

It's the Blackburn way: 'If it's not raining today, it will rain tomorrow.'

Glad I'm a darrener.

It'd be snowing in Darwen.

🙂

[islander200]

8 minutes ago, RoverKyle said:

That's the same with any signing. There are no guarantees that they'll work out. However not making a signing in that area of the pitch guarantees that we're more at risk of failure in that area. 

My point being with those 2 well certainly Forrs they are moving on loan to play regularly.We can't guarantee that.

Would you start Forss ahead of Khedra?Because unless an injury to Brererton, that's the only position up for grabs.

The style we are playing needs a Buckley or a Dack in the middle.

[booth]

Just now, darrenrover said:

Does it much matter who scores the goals as long as we do?

If we keep clean sheets most games, as we've become accustomed recently, we don't need to score many to carry home 3 points!

I really don't get the current negativity from some after 11 years of absolute shit!

Being second is wonderful, promotion would be dreamland but after the 11 years of absolute shit, it’s a disappointment that we couldn’t have given more of a final push. I just can’t see us getting back to this point again if we fluff it and with the inevitable player outgoings come summer.

Above all else the most important thing is getting the club back on a decent financial footing. Promotion would solve so many issues even if we came straight back down.

[RoverKyle]

2 minutes ago, islander200 said:

My point being with those 2 well certainly Forrs they are moving on loan to play regularly.We can't guarantee that.

Would you start Forss ahead of Khedra?Because unless an injury to Brererton, that's the only position up for grabs.

The style we are playing needs a Buckley or a Dack in the middle.

He'd certainly get regular game time, yes. Although the system is working well, we've had games where we've struggled to unlock teams and made a few changes to personnel and changed our shape. To do that effectively, you need options. We simply don't have the right depth or quality in reserve in forward areas to do that. 

As for Khadra, I've been impressed by him but by no means do I think he's undroppable. For example after his miss against Huddersfield I'd have been dropping him for the next game. A bit more composure in that brilliant position and he wins us the game. Small margins make all the difference.

[Scoobydo]

1 minute ago, RoverKyle said:

He'd certainly get regular game time, yes. Although the system is working well, we've had games where we've struggled to unlock teams and made a few changes to personnel and changed our shape. To do that effectively, you need options. We simply don't have the right depth or quality in reserve in forward areas to do that. 

As for Khadra, I've been impressed by him but by no means do I think he's undroppable. For example after his miss against Huddersfield I'd have been dropping him for the next game. A bit more composure in that brilliant position and he wins us the game. Small margins make all the difference.

You don’t drop a player for a miss. 

[RevidgeBlue]

7 minutes ago, booth said:

Being second is wonderful, promotion would be dreamland but after the 11 years of absolute shit, it’s a disappointment that we couldn’t have given more of a final push. I just can’t see us getting back to this point again if we fluff it and with the inevitable player outgoings come summer.

Above all else the most important thing is getting the club back on a decent financial footing. Promotion would solve so many issues even if we came straight back down.

Great Post.

[islander200]

1 minute ago, RoverKyle said:

He'd certainly get regular game time, yes. Although the system is working well, we've had games where we've struggled to unlock teams and made a few changes to personnel and changed our shape. To do that effectively, you need options. We simply don't have the right depth or quality in reserve in forward areas to do that. 

As for Khadra, I've been impressed by him but by no means do I think he's undroppable. For example after his miss against Huddersfield I'd have been dropping him for the next game. A bit more composure in that brilliant position and he wins us the game. Small margins make all the difference.

Ok I'd disagree on Forss he hasnt any goalscoring record in this Division and it was right to avoid Maja after his injury and playing only 45 minutes this season.

Gallagher knows the team, and has contributed this season.Would have definitely been happy to see a game changer brought in on a permanent but Im not disappointed we weren't in for the likes of Forss and An unfit Maja.

Dembele would have been a quality signing but is not a goalscorer 

[RoverKyle]

2 minutes ago, Scoobydo said:

You don’t drop a player for a miss. 

You do when there are options behind them that would bury those chances. However we don't have those options at our disposal unfortunately. 

If you don't deliver the numbers, why would you be expecting to start?

[islander200]

5 minutes ago, RoverKyle said:

You do when there are options behind them that would bury those chances. However we don't have those options at our disposal unfortunately. 

If you don't deliver the numbers, why would you be expecting to start?

We can't afford to carry a squad that has multiple players of similar quality fighting for each position.

Do we already know Hedges won't be any good?

What has Forss or Maja done to make you think they are better bets than what we have now?

 

[RV Blue]

50 minutes ago, J*B said:

No, he didn’t. J*B went through a role playing exercise with you, explaining how players ultimately have control of their careers rather than clubs. 

There was no reason for Rothwell to do what you said he might have done.

[RoverKyle]

18 minutes ago, islander200 said:

We can't afford to carry a squad that has multiple players of similar quality fighting for each position.

Do we already know Hedges won't be any good?

What has Forss or Maja done to make you think they are better bets than what we have now?

 

Pedigree/Potential

[Vilesinner]

4 hours ago, booth said:

By advanced forwards, do you mean players who don't score many goals?

Players that work their socks off and share goals. Remember Germany being the best team in the world with a midfielder upfront. 

[darrenrover]

1 hour ago, Gav said:

I think its because of the absolute shite that some feel we've missed a golden opportunity here darren.

We are both long enough in the tooth to realise this is going to be a slog from now until May and we'll probably fall short on the automatic places sadly, but I'd rather be where we are now, than in a relegation dog fight where many posters had us.

Tony Mowbray has done a phenomenal this season, the players have responded to the challenge and we have a bit of pride back into the club and town, thats enough for me right now to be honest.

Onwards and upwards.   

Yep, I know and get that Gav, as you already knew.

I also do know though, how hard everyone at the club tried to get a couple more over the line in time, that ultimately didn't come off....that's life sadly.

As you eluded to, as a club BRFC, are far removed in 2022, from the one 2011 to 2020 and hopefully, Onwards and Upwards!

 

Edited February 1, 2022 by darrenrover

[Paul Mellelieu]

13 minutes ago, darrenrover said:

Yep, I know and get that Gav, as you already knew.

I also do know though, how hard everyone at the club tried to get a couple more over the line in time, that ultimately didn't come off....that's life sadly.

As you eluded to, as a club BRFC, are far removed in 2022, from the one 2011 to 2020 and hopefully, Onwards and Upwards!

 

Could you explain what your last sentence means.  Thanks.

[Paul Mani]

3 hours ago, islander200 said:

Would you agree now that TM doesn't see Rankin-Costello as a full back or wing back?

No, I think Tony clearly sees Joe as a full back / wing back as evidenced by him playing him mainly in those positions for the manager. 

The additional cover in those areas and a lack of reliance on Joe is them being worried about whether his body can stand up to the rigours of Championship. I think a lot of the signings made have taken the pressure away from the club having to rely on players like JRC and Dack until after they’ve done a full preseason.

But I fully expect that JRC will challenge Zeefuik next season for the RWB role once Nyambe leaves.

Could he cover in CM or as a wide forward? Yes. But he’s built his reputation in the position Mowbray plays him in. 👍🏼

[darrenrover]

5 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

Could you explain what your last sentence means.  Thanks.

I wouldn't have thought I'd have any need to Paul tbh.

Without going in to detail, which I'm not prepared to do, can you not see a distinct difference in both how the club is being managed in general and results on the field, right the way through the club from first team to juniors?

It's not by accident!

[tomphil]

3 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

No, I think Tony clearly sees Joe as a full back / wing back as evidenced by him playing him mainly in those positions for the manager. 

The additional cover in those areas and a lack of reliance on Joe is them being worried about whether his body can stand up to the rigours of Championship. I think a lot of the signings made have taken the pressure away from the club having to rely on players like JRC and Dack until after they’ve done a full preseason.

But I fully expect that JRC will challenge Zeefuik next season for the RWB role once Nyambe leaves.

Could he cover in CM or as a wide forward? Yes. But he’s built his reputation in the position Mowbray plays him in. 👍🏼

Not sure how he's built a reputation there (yet) it's always looked more a the manager just wanting to get him involved so shoehorning him in there.