January Transfer Deadline Day 2022

[Vilesinner]

1 hour ago, booth said:

For those that think we'll be okay if Brereton is absent for a period of time, turn away from your tv screens now.

Gallagher's appearances have been often from the bench. I think he'll be okay as a BBD backup..

Gallagher will also thrive of on the service from Giles.  

If we keep defending like we are we won't need many goals. 

 

[Beanie01289]

We  should have brought in a forward of course but hopefully Giles can create more chances for us than we have been and let's face it this run has been built on the back of clean sheets keep them going and we have a great chance.

[islander200]

2 minutes ago, booth said:

I’m disappointed we didn’t bring a goalscorer in, which you pulled me up about. Then you said you would have liked them to bring a goalscorer in.

Do you argue with yourself at home?

No I disagreed that we would be f***ked without Brererton.

Oh I forgot not allowed to disagree with an opinion of yours.

Like last time, you send me a graph of rovers goalscorers I send you one of Boro's and next thing " I'm arguing" and "looking for a row"

At least I'm directly replying to your posts not making shit up like you suggesting people are happy we didn't bring a forward in.

I understand goalscorers cost money and facts are Gallagher has a better championship scoring record than Forrs, Dembele, Maja(who has played 45 minutes this season)

[booth]

2 minutes ago, Vilesinner said:

Gallagher's appearances have been often from the bench. I think he'll be okay as a BBD backup..

Gallagher will also thrive of on the service from Giles.  

If we keep defending like we are we won't need many goals. 

 

Fair enough, I can’t see it myself. I don’t think Mowbray has the belief in him to play him centrally.

But the point remains, it’s a poor do when we are in the position we are.

[booth]

1 minute ago, islander200 said:

No I disagreed that we would be f***ked without Brererton.

Oh I forgot not allowed to disagree with an opinion of yours.

Like last time, you send me a graph of rovers goalscorers I send you one of Boro's and next thing " I'm arguing" and "looking for a row"

At least I'm directly replying to your posts not making shit up like you suggesting people are happy we didn't bring a forward in.

I understand goalscorers cost money and facts are Gallagher has a better championship scoring record than Forrs, Dembele, Maja(who has played 45 minutes this season)

I think you’re a bit mad, please go away.

[islander200]

1 minute ago, booth said:

I think you’re a bit mad, please go away.

Put me on ignore then.

I think your a big girls blouse who cries if someone tries to debate a point with you.

You are obviously one of those geezers who needs the final word 

[bluebruce]

43 minutes ago, yankfan said:

You never know how players will step up given the opportunity. Look no further than BBD. How many Truely believed when AA left he’d bag 20 by New Years?  I agree it’s a weakness, and also don’t fully trust Gallagher can do it…but then again I would have said the same about Diaz 1 year ago 

Usually, when we are all saying that about a player not being able to step up after a star leaves, we are right. Brereton is the exception, not the rule. You could argue it happened with Arma when Dack got injured, but personally I always rated him. I think it was more split on him than BB. It's unlikely lightning would strike again but more importantly, we can't take that risk right now.

All that said, I'm much more concerned about the squad holes at GK, CB and CM than I am about the attacking options, as soon we will have a lot of players available in those areas. But yes I'd have like one more who could be trusted to bang a decent amount in if BBD is out. The cost of that is much higher than the other positions though.

[booth]

Just now, islander200 said:

Put me on ignore then.

I think your a big girls blouse who cries if someone tries to debate a point with you.

You are obviously one of those geezers who needs the final word 

I don’t think we’ll be okay if Brereton disappears from the team and I think it’s a sad state of affairs that we haven’t strengthened at a time I believe is a one off great chance at gaining promotion automatically.

You disagree with that? Fair enough.

And yes I think we would be fucked to lose a 20 goal player when we’re already the underdogs personally and we’ve got Gallagher as backup.

No ones crying at you going a bit bonkers on a message board pal. Go and have a lie down.

[Vilesinner]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Some posters seem to have kidded themselves Gallagher is a 1 in 2 striker.

He isn't, he's a one in four (at best). And that chart confirms the trend, 6 goals from 23 appearances.

The reason he hasn't been starting regularly is, the Boro game apart, he's been crap.

If we need more goals we ain't going to get them from him. The only hope as I see it (unless Dack comes back quickly and fully firing) is to try and get more out of Khedra, Rothwell and Buckley in terms of goals.

Players of that quality should be targeting 10 goals a season.

Absolute nonsense. Most of those appearances are from the subs bench. 

Has he had more than about a dozen starts? 

I'd say he'd have 8 to 10 goals if he started 23 games. A one in 3 striker. 

[islander200]

3 minutes ago, booth said:

I don’t think we’ll be okay if Brereton disappears from the team and I think it’s a sad state of affairs that we haven’t strengthened at a time I believe is a one off great chance at gaining promotion automatically.

You disagree with that? Fair enough.

And yes I think we would be fucked to lose a 20 goal player when we’re already the underdogs personally and we’ve got Gallagher as backup.

No ones crying at you going a bit bonkers on a message board pal. Go and have a lie down.

Why am I going bonkers?Because I don't agree with you.

It was you who started making statements that people were happy with it 

When I give you a reasoned response like in the Boro game when I sent the graph of the Boro Goalscorers you ignore it and today when I point out Forrs, Maja and Dembele are far from Goalscorers you ignore that too.

Don't have any idea why you are saying I'm crazy or why it's wrong to reply to your posts on a message board 

[bluebruce]

I was just reading about Giles and had a thought. Mowbray reckons his high assists figure is from the quality of his set pieces at Cardiff. Which would have meant aerial deliveries to that monster Moore, I imagine. Or at least with him being a significant distraction for the defence. I trust BBD to get on the end of things in the air now, but I'm not so sure about the other attackers.

Thankfully though we have some beasts at the back who tend to come forward. In his general play though I hope he is good at low crosses and through balls, as they tend to be more likely sources of goals for our front line.

[booth]

1 minute ago, islander200 said:

Why am I going bonkers?Because I don't agree with you.

It was you who started making statements that people were happy with it 

When I give you a reasoned response like in the Boro game when I sent the graph of the Boro Goalscorers you ignore it and today when I point out Forrs, Maja and Dembele are far from Goalscorers you ignore that too.

Don't have any idea why you are saying I'm crazy or why it's wrong to reply to your posts on a message board 

I ignored it because I didn’t mention those players. Anyway, you reply to this so you can have the final word, get it all off your chest then we’ll call it a day.

[islander200]

Just now, booth said:

I ignored it because I didn’t mention those players. Anyway, you reply to this so you can have the final word, get it all off your chest then we’ll call it a day.

Mate this isn't personal to me it's your opinion on this matter I disagree with.

 It's you like last time starting with the name calling all because I have a different opinion to yours.

You replied with your reasoning ,I replied with mine you then decide to take it personal

And my point with those 3 players is they were the sort that was available,we might have had some money but not the money to buy guaranteed goals.

[RV Blue]

1 hour ago, glen9mullan said:

Great words by TM on Rothwell, stating he knocked on his door 8am yesterday declaring he is ready to fight for the cause 100% committed.

His comments about Joe in general dispels the rumour TM wanted him gone and he was finished.

Onwards and forwards, feels like a new signing 

 

But @J*B said that Rothwell was going to fake an injury for the rest of the season if he didn’t get his move? An adult behaving like an adult, how very strange.

[AllRoverAsia]

1 hour ago, glen9mullan said:

Great words by TM on Rothwell, stating he knocked on his door 8am yesterday declaring he is ready to fight for the cause 100% committed.

His comments about Joe in general dispels the rumour TM wanted him gone and he was finished.

Onwards and forwards, feels like a new signing 

 

Brought tears to my eyes.

Its been a long time since a long running Soap Opera had such an effect, probably not since Martha passed on in the Rovers Snug back in '64

TM can spin a good yarn ......... which I knew was coming.

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, only2garners said:

He was listed as a sub in the post I quoted.

He wasn’t…

[RevidgeBlue]

20 minutes ago, Vilesinner said:

Absolute nonsense. Most of those appearances are from the subs bench. 

Has he had more than about a dozen starts? 

I'd say he'd have 8 to 10 goals if he started 23 games. A one in 3 striker. 

Why is it nonsense?

He's 26 and has NEVER scored more than 11 League goals. That was the season he was with us.

In fact hat's, that's the ONLY time He's hit double figures as well.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

No otg  meant he has gone there in response to someone who put Butterworth on the bench in a proposed line up I think.

I assume that’s what he was getting at, don’t see him though 🤣

[RevidgeBlue]

10 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Mate this isn't personal to me it's your opinion on this matter I disagree with.

 It's you like last time starting with the name calling all because I have a different opinion to yours.

You replied with your reasoning ,I replied with mine you then decide to take it personal

And my point with those 3 players is they were the sort that was available,we might have had some money but not the money to buy guaranteed goals.

To be fair, the problem is likely to be almost as severe if Kaminsky or Travis are out for any length of time as well.

We've brought some extra bodies in, just not in the positions we most needed them.

I'd say that's been a common feature of our recruitment over the last few years.

[islander200]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

To be fair, the problem is likely to be almost as severe if Kaminsky or Travis are out for any length of time as well.

We've brought some extra bodies in, just not in the positions we most needed them.

I'd say that's been a common feature of our recruitment over the last few years.

See I would say an injury to Kaminski or Travis would be worse than an injury to Brererton.

I get he is our main goalscorer but the same was said when Dack got injured and when Armstrong was sold "who will score our goals now" Invariably people step up.The goals can be shared around.

Goalscorers cost decent dough and want big wages.Like Maja and Forss potentially would have been decent but their goal scoring records are nothing to write home about and would probably want guaranteed minutes.

Im in agreement if money was available the squad should have been made stronger  a back up goalkeeper and someone to step in for Travis could have been found at the very least

[booth]

7 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

To be fair, the problem is likely to be almost as severe if Kaminsky or Travis are out for any length of time as well.

We've brought some extra bodies in, just not in the positions we most needed them.

I'd say that's been a common feature of our recruitment over the last few years.

We may ride our luck with Travis but Kaminski would be a huge loss.

[bluebruce]

4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

To be fair, the problem is likely to be almost as severe if Kaminsky or Travis are out for any length of time as well.

We've brought some extra bodies in, just not in the positions we most needed them.

I'd say that's been a common feature of our recruitment over the last few years.

I dunno about that second paragraph. We had no RWB cover for Nyambe (hell, Nyambe isn't really even a wingback) apart from injury prone, unfit JRC who isn't a defender. Competition there was definitely needed. We maybe didn't need Brown as yet another option there, but it's clearly been done for very cheap emergency cover, and as someone we own who may be able to step up a bit more next year when Zeefuik and/or Nyambe are gone.

Markanday and Hedges are both attackers, which people are still saying we need more of. One got injured for the season, which is highly unfortunate.

Giles probably wasn't necessary until Edun got injured in addition to Pickering, leaving us facing probably about a third of our remaining matches with no LWB. He can also play CM apparently, which is an area I don't think we have enough quality cover.

I don't object to who we brought in, just that some other core issues were not addressed.

[bluebruce]

5 minutes ago, islander200 said:

See I would say an injury to Kaminski or Travis would be worse than an injury to Brererton.

I get he is our main goalscorer but the same was said when Dack got injured and when Armstrong was sold "who will score our goals now" Invariably people step up.The goals can be shared around.

Goalscorers cost decent dough and want big wages.Like Maja and Forss potentially would have been decent but their goal scoring records are nothing to write home about and would probably want guaranteed minutes.

Im in agreement if money was available the squad should have been made stronger  a back up goalkeeper and someone to step in for Travis could have been found at the very least

I'm not sure about invariably. Even with BBD for most of it, we only scored 2 goals in the league in January, in 5 games. Goals have dried up lately as it is, let alone if our 20 goal man was out.

[J*B]

25 minutes ago, RV Blue said:

But @J*B said that Rothwell was going to fake an injury for the rest of the season if he didn’t get his move? An adult behaving like an adult, how very strange.

No, he didn’t. J*B went through a role playing exercise with you, explaining how players ultimately have control of their careers rather than clubs. 

[RevidgeBlue]

3 minutes ago, J*B said:

No, he didn’t. J*B went through a role playing exercise with you, explaining how players ultimately have control of their careers rather than clubs. 

Yes, but not the power to leave before the end of their contract if their Clubs don't want them to.