BG1492 Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 You can’t say Davies on loan is uninventive and then highlight Reading signing Hendrick on loan as a positive. Davies top centre half at champ level. 2 Quote
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MarkBRFC Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Craigman said: Blackburn push hard for Kop defender Davies By Alan Nixon. However Blackburn see him playing a key role and hope for an agreement to be in place quickly. From Patreon 🤭 Edited July 12, 2022 by MarkBRFC Quote
Theaxe15 Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: Reading who looked like relegation candidates being unable to sign anyone making moves, what is going on with our club. They're signing Shane Long today - 80k wage at Southampton to 5k at Reading. Jeff Hendrick on loan. Hutchinson about to sign. Fulton from Swansea. Meanwhile we're doing F all. To say Davies would be a bad signing and then rattle off those has beens and never has beens is a bit rich 1 Quote
JHRover Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: Reading who looked like relegation candidates being unable to sign anyone making moves, what is going on with our club. They're signing Shane Long today - 80k wage at Southampton to 5k at Reading. Jeff Hendrick on loan. Hutchinson about to sign. Fulton from Swansea. Meanwhile we're doing F all. They're just disproving the FFP myth No major sales Still got Lucas Joao, Puscas, Hoillett and others there Difference is that their owners want to invest, ours don't. Quite simple really. Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Theaxe15 said: To say Davies would be a bad signing and then rattle off those has beens and never has beens is a bit rich But we are yet to sign Davies?! He's not even ours, and might never be. These are signings that Reading will make today. Quote
Theaxe15 Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, RoversClitheroe said: But we are yet to sign Davies?! He's not even ours, and might never be. These are signings that Reading will make today. True. And they’re trash. If we had already made signings and then signed some of those most people would suggest it was a waste Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, Theaxe15 said: True. And they’re trash. If we had already made signings and then signed some of those most people would suggest it was a waste You could argue all proven players that would do a job. Shane Long guarantees you 15+ goals. Can't say the same for any of our players. Don't think you could say it about BREO either who scored nothing second half of the season Quote
Miller11 Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 38 minutes ago, Craigman said: Blackburn push hard for Kop defender Davies By Alan Nixon Blackburn Rovers are trying hard to strike a deal with Liverpool for forgotten defender Ben Davies. Rovers want to take former Preston centre half Davies on loan for the season and are willing to pay the wages and an extra rental settlement. That may give Jon Dahl Thomasson an edge over rivals in the race for Davies’s signature as he seeks a handful of new signings. Davies is back at Anfield for a spell with Sheffield United where he spent much of his time on the sidelines. However Blackburn see him playing a key role and hope for an agreement to be in place quickly. From Patreon This can’t be true. He must be on 20k per week easy, if not more. Plus a loan fee on top?! If we end up paying ridiculous money like this for loans (and I know it was reported we did this with Poveda last season), yet we can’t find the money to pay academy graduates the going rate, our “structure” needs ripping up. Utter madness. We need to be finding much better deals than this. At the moment, us employing a director of football is like a chippy employing an executive chef. 5 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Miller11 said: This can’t be true. He must be on 20k per week easy, if not more. Plus a loan fee on top?! If we end up paying ridiculous money like this for loans (and I know it was reported we did this with Poveda last season), yet we can’t find the money to pay academy graduates the going rate, our “structure” needs ripping up. Utter madness. We need to be finding much better deals than this. At the moment, us employing a director of football is like a chippy employing an executive chef. Amen Quote
Northcote blues Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: You could argue all proven players that would do a job. Shane Long guarantees you 15+ goals. Can't say the same for any of our players. Don't think you could say it about BREO either who scored nothing second half of the season Long won’t even guarantee 15+ starts, nevermind goals. It’s not 2015. Goodness me. 6 Quote
Wheelton Blue Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 If Davies is true, then I suspect that Ayala is off. Quote
bigbrandjohn Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Miller11 said: This can’t be true. He must be on 20k per week easy, if not more. Plus a loan fee on top?! If we end up paying ridiculous money like this for loans (and I know it was reported we did this with Poveda last season), yet we can’t find the money to pay academy graduates the going rate, our “structure” needs ripping up. Utter madness. We need to be finding much better deals than this. At the moment, us employing a director of football is like a chippy employing an executive chef. That closer gave me a chuckle. I believe it is called LOL in modern parlance Quote
bigbrandjohn Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, JHRover said: They're just disproving the FFP myth No major sales Still got Lucas Joao, Puscas, Hoillett and others there Difference is that their owners want to invest, ours don't. Quite simple really. Yeah but they have Incey. 1 Quote
Admiral Nelsen Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, JHRover said: They're just disproving the FFP myth No major sales Still got Lucas Joao, Puscas, Hoillett and others there Difference is that their owners want to invest, ours don't. Quite simple really. Not sure of this is meant to be a joke or not, but they're literally only signing frees and cheap loans who nobody else wants on account of them being under a FFP induced transfer ban. I don't think you could pick a better example of what could go wrong if you try and cheat FFP and fail . 6 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: You could argue all proven players that would do a job. Shane Long guarantees you 15+ goals. Can't say the same for any of our players. Don't think you could say it about BREO either who scored nothing second half of the season He's had a good career, but he's not scored more than 10 league goals in a season for more than 10 years. He's not scored 15 in the last 6 years combined! 8 Quote
Theaxe15 Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: You could argue all proven players that would do a job. Shane Long guarantees you 15+ goals. Can't say the same for any of our players. Don't think you could say it about BREO either who scored nothing second half of the season Has Long ever scored 15+ goals in a season? He’s a worker but little else. 1 Quote
JHRover Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Admiral Nelsen said: Not sure of this is meant to be a joke or not, but they're literally only signing frees and cheap loans who nobody else wants on account of them being under a FFP induced transfer ban. I don't think you could pick a better example of what could go wrong if you try and cheat FFP and fail . He's had a good career, but he's not scored more than 10 league goals in a season for more than 10 years. He's not scored 15 in the last 6 years combined! Why's that then? They overspent and were sanctioned, yet despite that have survived, still have a decent looking squad, haven't slashed costs right back and are signing players. Speaking of 'only frees and cheap loans' what are you expecting us to do? Spend money? Think you'll be disappointed if so. For what its worth we might as well be under a transfer embargo. Could still sign cheap loans / nobody which is what we are going to do without an embargo. 2 Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 Ben Davies is a very good player at this level. I can't see it happening however, firstly because of his wage demands and also I am not sure how it would work with 2 left footed centre backs. Quality wise, he likely is as good as we could get. Would say a lot about our supposed intentions with expectations of £3m being spent on one centre back to loaning one in however. I am not sure why it has become gospel that we paid loads for Poveda, ultimately none of us truly know but last summer was one where we had to wait and wait because we needed Prem teams to subsidise loans. 44 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: It's such an uninventive signing. I'd be disappointed tbh, a loan too. I do love how you describe someone who was performing consistently well enough at Championship level to earn a move to Liverpool, albeit in mitigating circumstances as "uninventive" yet go on to laud signings like Shane Long, Jeff Hendrick and Jay Fulton. You also say that Shane Long guarantees 15+ goals, I can only presume that was tongue in cheek seeing as he has managed that once in his career, 11 seasons ago! 4 Quote
islander200 Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 54 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: It's such an uninventive signing. I'd be disappointed tbh, a loan too. He is better than anything we have at the back and Is one of the better defenders at this level. Only worry is he is left footed and so is Wharton 1 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, phili said: I don't think it is. All Championship clubs have agreed to new FfP rules, owners can fund club losses with cash to £60m over 3 years. Clubs can spend a maximum of 90% of turnover on wages next season, falling by 5% a season to the new uefa guidelines of 70%. Unless we substantially increase our turnover there is not much wriggle room. Last set of accounts we were at 130% or something similar. After all departures this summer and last we are probably now at 90%. The stadium is falling apart and the pitch is a disgrace. Those are both FFP exempt. 3 Quote
bluebruce Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 17 hours ago, tomphil said: Most of this reply is nothing but empty waffle trying to cover the fact it was your chain that got yanked by a harmless comment. If ever there was a definition of a messageboard glass chin you've displayed it here, likewise you aren't normally so touchy. So we'll put it down to the hot weather and move on. My original point about gate money and budget stands though. As for lack of transfers i think you'll find iv'e been telling people all along we are going seriously on our own youth this time so nothing much will happen at all. Low cost/high risk is this seasons theme i'm afraid. Another pathetic reply Tomphil, where you confuse your petulance and overreaction for being mine, and standing by your flimsy argument, so I agree, I'll leave you to it and move on. Quote
Tugayisgod Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, islander200 said: He is better than anything we have at the back and Is one of the better defenders at this level. Only worry is he is left footed and so is Wharton Can also play left back apparently? Wonder if Pickering under threat Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, Exiled_Rover said: The stadium is falling apart and the pitch is a disgrace. Those are both FFP exempt. Come on now, yes they initially planned a £2m full pitch renovation and decided against it, but we have weaved goalmouths now, stop being unrealistic! 1 Quote
SBlue Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: You could argue all proven players that would do a job. Shane Long guarantees you 15+ . Can't say the same for any of our players. Don't think you could say it about BREO either who scored nothing second half of the season Shane Long is 35 and hasn't scored 15 goals a season in over a decade, and has only scored 15 in total in the last 6 years. 32 minutes ago, ItsRoverZ said: £10 bet on Shane long outscoring anyone at rovers if he plays in the championship Deal. 3 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, islander200 said: He is better than anything we have at the back and Is one of the better defenders at this level. Only worry is he is left footed and so is Wharton I think Wharton is class personally 2 Quote
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