superniko Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, Tom said: Michael Hector still without a club? Not sure how much he’s dipped but only 30 and was huge for Sheffield Wednesday and Fulham a year or two back Interesting one - player of the year at Wednesday and I think he played most of the season when Fulham got promoted. Surely he would be a very good pick up at Championship level 1 Quote
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Polky Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 I guess Diaz is down the pecking order in Wolves transfer targets. Quote
Guest Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, superniko said: Interesting one - player of the year at Wednesday and I think he played most of the season when Fulham got promoted. Surely he would be a very good pick up at Championship level 40 games in 3 years for Fulham Edited August 4, 2022 by Mellor Rover Quote
Tricky Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, BRFC_Polky said: I guess Diaz is down the pecking order in Wolves transfer targets. Have Everton been suggested? They only have DCL and he's injured so they're going into a PL season without a decent striker and Rondon suspended. Edited August 4, 2022 by Tricky Quote
Dan Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tricky said: Have Everton been suggested? They only have DCL and he's injured so they're going into a PL season without a decent striker and Rondon suspended. Going to Everton would be a gamble, Lampard will be sacked before the Autumn and I wouldn’t be surprised if they were in for another relegation battle. 1 Quote
superniko Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 45 minutes ago, Mellor Rover said: 40 games in 3 years for Fulham Yeah that's why I stated the year they got promoted. Fulham then went out and spent £150m or so. 1 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) End of the day if we were a normally run club with genuine financial issues, i'd be shipping out Diaz tomorrow for anything around £15m, doubling our money on someone who looked like he had never played the game for his first 2 years here is decent going i think. The fact is though we're not, venkys don't give a hoot about money here and never really have done. So on that basis I would rather keep him as I know he will get somewhere around 15 goals this season. Take him out and goal scoring looks very bleak in this side. Edited August 4, 2022 by MarkBRFC 3 Quote
Sparks Rover Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 53 minutes ago, Mellor Rover said: 40 games in 3 years for Fulham Stats again mean nowt...the guy is a class act. Check out that tackle.....https://mobile.twitter.com/RhysDalySport/status/1529173246519791622 I still remember it to this day. Quote
Irish_Rover Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said: Stats again mean nowt...the guy is a class act. Check out that tackle.....https://mobile.twitter.com/RhysDalySport/status/1529173246519791622 I still remember it to this day. We're talking about Myles Anderson here yeh!?! 😁 4 Quote
Angry_Pirate Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 Maybe Helik is on the list but is the "B" option, with Van Hecke being the "A" target. Scenario 1: Helik goes to Poland for £1.5m (outrage from some), Van Hecke signs for Rovers for £3m in 2 weeks (delirium). Scenario 2: Rovers sign Helik £1.5m (good signing), Van Hecke signs for another CH team for less than £3m in 4 weeks as Rovers "can't" afford him, and already have Wharton, Ayala, Carter, Helik, Barnes and Phillips (outrage by the many). Scenario 3: Rovers sign neither (Or any quality CB) (mass outrage by all). That's always the gamble when option "B" gets transferred first. 3 Quote
TruRover Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Angry_Pirate said: Maybe Helik is on the list but is the "B" option, with Van Hecke being the "A" target. Scenario 1: Helik goes to Poland for £1.5m (outrage from some), Van Hecke signs for Rovers for £3m in 2 weeks (delirium). Scenario 2: Rovers sign Helik £1.5m (good signing), Van Hecke signs for another CH team for less than £3m in 4 weeks as Rovers "can't" afford him, and already have Wharton, Ayala, Carter, Helik, Barnes and Phillips (outrage by the many). Scenario 3: Rovers sign neither (Or any quality CB) (mass outrage by all). That's always the gamble when option "B" gets transferred first. This something you’ve heard ? Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 55 minutes ago, Dan said: Going to Everton would be a gamble, Lampard will be sacked before the Autumn and I wouldn’t be surprised if they were in for another relegation battle. That sounds like a them problem. Quote
roversinmyblood Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, phili said: I think playing the high pressing game for 2 games a week will be a struggle on the players later in the season. I agree and I think that is the reason for the second half of season dips. The number of games combined with the inevitable knocks and strains they pick they are burnt out by Christmas and can’t perform to the same standards. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 36 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: End of the day if we were a normally run club with genuine financial issues, i'd be shipping out Diaz tomorrow for anything around £15m, doubling our money on someone who looked like he had never played the game for his first 2 years here is decent going i think. The fact is though we're not, venkys don't give a hoot about money here and never really have done. So on that basis I would rather keep him as I know he will get somewhere around 15 goals this season. Take him out and goal scoring looks very bleak in this side. I genuinely think we're trying to ship him out. Broughton will want to wash his own face financially - that sale will help. Quote
roversinmyblood Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Mellor Rover said: 40 games in 3 years for Fulham Is that because they bought Tosin? Quote
magicalmortensleftpeg Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 46 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: End of the day if we were a normally run club with genuine financial issues, i'd be shipping out Diaz tomorrow for anything around £15m, doubling our money on someone who looked like he had never played the game for his first 2 years here is decent going i think. The fact is though we're not, venkys don't give a hoot about money here and never really have done. So on that basis I would rather keep him as I know he will get somewhere around 15 goals this season. Take him out and goal scoring looks very bleak in this side. Who’s paying £15m for him at the moment? No one has been seriously linked. We sold Armstrong last season under very similar (almost identical) circumstances so I’m sure he’ll be gone if a serious offer is submitted. Quote
Dan Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: I genuinely think we're trying to ship him out. Broughton will want to wash his own face financially - that sale will help. But, without his goals we could be in a big trouble. The money would have to be used wisely and his goals would have to be replaced(we also need to add to his tally anyway). ~£15 million pounds is great, but I’d rather stay in this league/possibly challange for promotion. If you took away his goals last season I imagine we’d have been relegated? Quote
RoverDom Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dan said: If you took away his goals last season I imagine we’d have been relegated Like the saddo i am I just flicked through all the results from last season and I think we'd have 13 fewer points if you toom away his goals. He often scored in losing games and games where we won by 3 or 4 rather than 1 or 2. That would gave put us about 17th / 18th roughly 2 Quote
Dan Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, RoverDom said: Like the saddo i am I just flicked through all the results from last season and I think we'd have 13 fewer points if you toom away his goals. He often scored in losing games and games where we won by 3 or 4 rather than 1 or 2. That would gave put us about 17th / 18th roughly I was tempted to do the same! Might not have been as bad as I feared then, but his goals almost got us into the play offs and could quite easily be the difference this season. It’s a stick or twist situation. We could keep him and get possibly into the play offs, get promoted and then it’d be more than worth losing the ~£15 million, or we could finish mid table anyway and lose him for nothing. Shit or bust do they say? Quote
MarkBRFC Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dan said: I was tempted to do the same! Might not have been as bad as I feared then, but his goals almost got us into the play offs and could quite easily be the difference this season. It’s a stick or twist situation. We could keep him and get possibly into the play offs, get promoted and then it’d be more than worth losing the ~£15 million, or we could finish mid table anyway and lose him for nothing. Shit or bust do they say? Venkys will just plug that gap anyway. I wish it wasn't the case but here we are, I would rather keep him and go for it and see how we do. Quote
davulsukur Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, blackburnravers.com said: Sam Barnes injury confirmed...... Gutted for him. Looking very thin on the ground for CB's now! 4 Quote
RoverDom Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) So we're down to Wharton Ayala and Phillips? So essentially, we're down to Wharton and Phillips Genuinely what other centre back options do we have? We don't have any midfielders that we could repurpose for a couple of games do we? Unless Edun could do a shift there? Edited August 4, 2022 by RoverDom Quote
rigger Posted August 4, 2022 Posted August 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, davulsukur said: Gutted for him. Looking very thin on the ground for CB's now! Just the 4 players for the two positions. I don't count Annesley or Saadi, because I don't think either are good enough. Quote
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