Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, AJW said: I seem him as a Holding midfielder in the Pirlo/Tugay mould rather than the Makelele style Deep lying playmaker in FM world. 1 Quote
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AllRoverAsia Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said: Au contraire, you've educated me to the fact you can't back up your claims. Whatever. I'm still not doing your post reading and analysis, so suck on that. Quote
Ossydave Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, OldEwoodBlue said: Buckley in the same sentence as. Tugay. Pub level in comparison but I agree our best "footballer" with "footballer's" brain. Can only blame Venkys for how we went from there to here and why many of our remaining fans lap it up as our level. People saying Rothwell was great. 3 goals in his best season. He was an awful player. Defenders had better be coming soon. If Ayala (our best player) gets injured at weekend we will be in big trouble. In fairness he said in the Tugay mould that's all.... Next task is to get him smoking Marlboro and grow his hair. 4 Quote
OldEwoodBlue Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Exiled in Toronto said: You mean those runs that 9/10 ended with him surrounded by defenders and losing the ball? Buckley’s forward passing is a lot quicker and goes to a teammate more often. He got through the defence about three times all season. 100% spot on. Ball moves faster than Rothwell. Simple game. "Let the ball do the work". Buckley was great early last season threading visionary passes. As soon as dickbrain moved him up front he wss anonymous. Rothwell was anonymous apart from 3 goals. Edited August 5, 2022 by OldEwoodBlue 1 Quote
Sweaty Gussets Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said: Whatever. I'm still not doing your post reading and analysis, so suck on that. No problem. You seem lovely BTW. Quote
Wheelton Blue Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 Give me a player who can pass the ball through a defemce, vesus one who can dribble through a defence, any day. The former will be more successful than the latter, every time. 2 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Wheelton Blue said: Give me a player who can pass the ball through a defemce, vesus one who can dribble through a defence, any day. The former will be more successful than the latter, every time. Correct. If the runner loses the ball he’s usually on the wrong side of the ball defensively. If the passer has a pass intercepted he’s always still on the right side of the ball defensively. 2 Quote
Iceman Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said: Give me a player who can pass the ball through a defemce, vesus one who can dribble through a defence, any day. The former will be more successful than the latter, every time. Leo Messi, Ronaldinho says hello Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Ossydave said: Looks like Vydra ain't signing a new deal down the road, wonder how much he's after? More than our 4 buttons and a Netflix subscription wage structure I guess, but he'll do a job at this level for someone. He’s still not returned from a serious injury. Avoid. Quote
Wheelton Blue Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Iceman said: Leo Messi, Ronaldinho says hello ... who could do both with aplomb. 1 Quote
tomphil Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 The way Rothwell played last season helped us shed off the possession football the manager had foisted on us out of nowhere. Finally a move on from the likes of Evans, Trybull etc so for that he should have had our thanks. I don't want to see it return. Quote
Iceman Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said: ... who could do both with aplomb. Yeh but you said the latter will never ever be successful. Plenty of players have dribbled their way successfully through defences over the years. Playing a through ball is just alot easier it seems, because you do less work to get that ball moving from your foot to the next player Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Iceman said: Leo Messi, Ronaldinho says hello When we discover the new Bryan Douglas I may change my mind. Ton Finney, who was in the Dougie league as a dribbler, used to tell a story about his time as an apprentice. He was getting a reputation even then as a great dribbler. One day the trainer took him to one side. He said “ I’ll have a bet with you Tom. You see young George stood thirty yards away ? I’ll bet I can get the ball to him before you can “. Tom said “ You’re on.” The trainer said “ At the count of three. One, two, three, go “. Tom set off with ball but before he’d gone 5 yards the trainer had just passed the ball to the other player. He said “ I win Tom. “ Finney said he never forgot that lesson. 5 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said: ... who could do both with aplomb. With plenty of end product. Players who can carry the ball from the middle third to the last third can kill you but they need to be able to use the ball when they get there. 1 Quote
Lee0r Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 So… any sign of any signings. Any rumours? JPVH? Anything? I honestly thought we would have 1 CB through the door before the trip to Swansea. Quote
BigBar Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 9 hours ago, JBiz said: What do you base this on? My eyes and ability to not just tell myself something I want to be true. Not enough assists, not enough goals, went missing so often, missed multiple one on ones, dilly dallied in possession countless times. You disagree? 1 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Lee0r said: So… any sign of any signings. Any rumours? JPVH? Anything? I honestly thought we would have 1 CB through the door before the trip to Swansea. I can only think we’re waiting on Brighton to decide what they want to do. I’m sure people would happily wait a little longer to get our man than invest in someone who we haven’t seen. Focus on getting Van heckle, then maybe a loan or free at the back. Edited August 5, 2022 by BankEnd Rover Quote
BigBar Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Sweaty Gussets said: I think what he's saying is that he doesn't rate Buckley, thinks he played badly last season, and is upset other people might think differently. Furthermore, he thinks people will continue to overstate how good Buckley is this season to make up for how bad he was last season, just so they can 'save face'. He may need help. Pretty accurate breakdown..no help needed. All the Buckley lovers quiet as mouse's for months last season have now reared their heads again. Think you may need help. Quote
Mattyblue Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 I thought Buckley was massively improved on the season before up to January, but like the rest of them looked lost as the pound shop Tinkerman got up to his usual antics… 2 Quote
Popular Post Tyrone Shoelaces Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted August 5, 2022 Buckley is set up to have his best season this time. He just needs to cut out the silly, pointless bookings he picks up all the time. Tripping somebody up from behind on the half way line doesn’t make you a hard man. 11 Quote
Displaced Rover Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 Rothwell is criminally overrated by some people in here. He was a decent Championship midfielder who I’d be be happy to still have but that’s about it. His end product was often poor and like some else mentioned his running up dead ends often left gaping holes in midfield. Buckley has a much higher ceiling and will go far further in the game. I’d be genuinely shocked if Rothwell makes any sort of impact in the Premier League, whereas I’m sure that’s where Buckley will end up (ideally with Rovers!). 8 Quote
islander200 Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, BigBar said: Pretty accurate breakdown..no help needed. All the Buckley lovers quiet as mouse's for months last season have now reared their heads again. Think you may need help. All the Buckley lovers? You mean the majority of the message board? 2 Quote
JBiz Posted August 5, 2022 Posted August 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, BigBar said: My eyes and ability to not just tell myself something I want to be true Not a big fan of breaking posts up Chaddy style but I thought this deserved its own reply. Do you think being so patronising helps your argument? 6 minutes ago, BigBar said: . Not enough assists, not enough goals, went missing so often, missed multiple one on ones, dilly dallied in possession countless times. You disagree? That’s a fantastic list of all the things he and many other footballers do wrong at times. There’s no point in me listing good things about his game, because despite @Mattyblue’s attempt to justify slagging players off without any actual balance, you’ve already come to a ridiculous conclusion. Ill just put you into the “JAL” section of “posters I’ll try never to read or reply too again”. Good day sir. Quote
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