Transfer Window - COMPLETE. Where’s Gregg?

[Gumbi]

Given that Brighton have just sold Clarke and Chelsea are now supposedly after Webster, I can't see Brighton wanting to lose Van Hecke too.

[rigger]

  On 24/08/2022 at 18:35, Hasta said:

Then why would you want an unproven , younger centre half to come in on loan. But not a player who has already shown he was our best centre half last year by being player of the year. Who is 100% proven in this division

We would all much rather we signed him permanently, but if that really isn’t possible then why wouldn’t you loan him, especially as you are clearly open to loaning a centre half ?

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Because I would only want one loanee center-half, and as far as a loan goes I would prefer the Liverpool player.

[islander200]

  On 24/08/2022 at 18:35, Hasta said:

Then why would you want an unproven , younger centre half to come in on loan. But not a player who has already shown he was our best centre half last year by being player of the year. Who is 100% proven in this division

We would all much rather we signed him permanently, but if that really isn’t possible then why wouldn’t you loan him, especially as you are clearly open to loaning a centre half ?

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Id prefer Van Hecke myself but I do have some reservations if he would be as good as part of a back 4 rather than a 3.

And Sepp van den Berg may not be proven here but he has proved himself in the championship with Preston also added value that he has shown himself capable of playing rb, I don't think covering Rb when needed would be as comfortable for Van Hecke.

 

[Sweaty Gussets]

I'd take Van Wilder at his point. 

[Hasta]

  On 24/08/2022 at 18:41, rigger said:

Because I would only want one loanee center-half, and as far as a loan goes I would prefer the Liverpool player.

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So if we can’t get Van Den Berg, you still wouldn’t want JPVH on loan ?

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[Ricky]

  On 24/08/2022 at 17:20, chaddyrovers said:

Not really. They have loaned out 2 players in Ellis Simms and Lewis Gibson I might have look at. I think I would want straight cash for him then we can bring in players to replace him. 

I agree with your first point that we should sell him given he wants out from media reports and We could use that fee to fund a couple of replacements like Veljko Birmancevic(suggested cos JDT knows him) and Georgios Giakoumakis(being linked with a move to championship according a poster who posted that link) for example of what we could do and who we could sign. 

You mention Tyrese Campbell as replacement for BBD and he would be very good signing I just don't see him coming here. JDT will know Riis so maybe he is realistic option but I wouldn't pay more than 4 or 5 million for him. 

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100% we need to have the money and not get drawn into loan deals bringing the fee down. It needs to become a bidding war but the worry is that there just hasn’t been the concrete interest to date. 
 

Really need two or three teams at a minimum pushing for him.

[J*B]

  On 24/08/2022 at 18:35, Hasta said:

Then why would you want an unproven , younger centre half to come in on loan. But not a player who has already shown he was our best centre half last year by being player of the year. Who is 100% proven in this division

We would all much rather we signed him permanently, but if that really isn’t possible then why wouldn’t you loan him, especially as you are clearly open to loaning a centre half ?

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Van Den Berg isn’t unproven. He’s a proven championship centre half. 

[Hasta]

  On 24/08/2022 at 18:49, J*B said:

Van Den Berg isn’t unproven. He’s a proven championship centre half. 

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Agreed. Badly worded. I’m not saying I don’t want him. But I’d rather JPVH as I doubt VDB would have made the impact and be as successful as Van Hecke was here last year. Van Hecke is proven at Ewood as being exceptional.

But my general point is, you can’t say you want Van Den Berg on loan but under no circumstances do you want JPVH on loan unless it’s a permanent. That’s crazy.

Edited August 24, 2022 by Hasta

[roverandout]

  On 24/08/2022 at 18:45, Sweaty Gussets said:

I'd take Van Wilder at his point. 

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I'd take a removal van 

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 24/08/2022 at 18:47, Hasta said:

So if we can’t get Van Den Berg, you still wouldn’t want JPVH on loan ?

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Brighton aren't going to let JP VH go out on loan unless he signs a new contract there first.

He also did very well here and apparently enjoyed it. We're also never likely to be in the position again to be in with the chance (however slight) of signing someone of that age and quality for the price. On the flip side I'm guessing there I'd no chance of ever acquiring the Liverpool guy permanently. 

I'd say it is perfectly logical to try and acquire JPVH permanently and get the other centre half option in on loan be it VDB  or anyone else.

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[jim mk2]

Rovers have dropped their interest in both Van Den Berg and Van Hecke I'm hearing and have switched their sights to Van Halen who could rock up as early as tomorrow. Have I told you lately that Van Morrison is available too? 

[Hasta]

  On 24/08/2022 at 18:58, RevidgeBlue said:

Brighton aren't going to let JP VH go out on loan unless he signs a new contract there first.

He also did very well here and apparently enjoyed it. We're also never likely to be in the position again to be in with the chance (however slight) of signing someone of that age and quality for the price. On the flip side I'm guessing there I'd no chance of ever acquiring the Liverpool guy permanently. 

I'd say it is perfectly logical to try and acquire JPVH permanently and get the other centre half option in on loan be it VDB  or anyone else.

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Agree on all of that.

But if on transfer deadline day we’ve brought nobody in, would you say we don’t want Van Hecke on loan, it’s either permanent or nothing?

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[Guest]

  On 24/08/2022 at 19:01, jim mk2 said:

Rovers have dropped their interest in both Van Den Berg and Van Hecke I'm hearing and have switched their sights to Van Halen who could rock up as early as tomorrow. Have I told you lately that Van Morrison is available too? 

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Nope. It's Rip Van Winkel.

 

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[miqaayil]

Can we also get Van Helsing ...mainly to hunt our owners

[simongarnerisgod]

  On 24/08/2022 at 18:10, roversfan99 said:

Van Hecke is starting for Brighton tonight in the cup.

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well van hecke not going to sunderland,if he was then he`d have signed before tonight,****** deluded lot those sunderland fans,won **** all for 50 years and they think they are the biggest club in europe

[rigger]

  On 24/08/2022 at 18:47, Hasta said:

So if we can’t get Van Den Berg, you still wouldn’t want JPVH on loan ?

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Again, where have I said that. This is a rhetorical question, no need for you to answer it, as this conversation is getting boring.

[rigger]

  On 24/08/2022 at 19:06, miqaayil said:

Can we also get Van Helsing ...mainly to hunt our owners

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He's good with crosses.

[Hasta]

  On 24/08/2022 at 18:19, rigger said:

We don't want Van Hecke on loan. Permanant or nothing.

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  On 24/08/2022 at 19:10, rigger said:

Again, where have I said that. This is a rhetorical question, no need for you to answer it, as this conversation is getting boring.

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There.

[Polky]

Right, all the moaners can stop now…we’ve signed someone 😉 

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 24/08/2022 at 18:14, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Another day with no activity or rumours - except outgoing. 

Standard.

Tick tock goes the alarm clock. 

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Yep, to go back to the one day cricket analogy the run rate is going up and up.

You would also have thought that with there being a possibility of BBD leaving, we'd have been heavily linked with several strikers as a possible back up -  and not a hint of that.

There's no need to panic though. Apparently all these top quality players apparently become available out of nowhere at a knockdown price as the window draws to a close.

[simongarnerisgod]

  On 24/08/2022 at 19:19, BRFC_Polky said:

Right, all the moaners can stop now…we’ve signed someone 😉 

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i never doubted gregg,he`s a trojan

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

  On 24/08/2022 at 19:23, RevidgeBlue said:

Yep, to go back to the one day cricket analogy the run rate is going up and up.

You would also have thought that with there being a possibility of BBD leaving, we'd have been heavily linked with several strikers as a possible back up -  and not a hint of that.

There's no need to panic though. Apparently all these top quality players apparently become available out of nowhere at a knockdown price as the window draws to a close.

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Exactly. 

Everybody bemoaning the small pool of players available post Brexit, yet as the deadline approaches, they are all going to become cheaper.  Surely, it works the opposite way. 

[Athlete]

  On 24/08/2022 at 19:31, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Exactly. 

Everybody bemoaning the small pool of players available post Brexit, yet as the deadline approaches, they are all going to become cheaper.  Surely, it works the opposite way. 

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From the EU they become dearer

[Blue blood]

To be honest the issues with the squad have been years in the making right back to our second full season in the Championship. 

We let a stunningly promising (now Premiership) keeper leave to replace him with a very limited forward, which given the forward line has sod all investment since then and we have a promote from within policy over the last 3 years, makes it an even bigger clanger. Factor in the defenders are coming only came in on loan and we were shoving as many problems as we could down the line. 

The end of the last but one season we had a mass clear out of an admittedly bloated squad albeit the numbers out compared with in made us worryingly vulnerable to issues and light on numbers. Factor in Elliott wasn't replaced, nor our 20+ goal striker Armstrong, and you could see the problems rapidly adding up. 

At the end of last season letting 3 first teamers leave for nothing, does nothing to help our cause either in terms of numbers or funding replacements. In fact that was a master stroke to decimate an already depleted squad, and with Bereton seemingly not signing a new contract or going either, it seems the depletion without investment will continue.

The reliance and loss of strong loans continued to haunt us as well as last seasons player of the year also bogged off leaving even bigger holes in the defence. If just finding the loan gems was the majority of the summer tasks that wouldn't be too bad but instead it's yet another crucial piece of the jigsaw on top of so many others. 

Of course there have been a few additions albeit an injury prone old centre back was never going to help the cause, and whilst there may be potential in the lad from Spurs, we cannot afford another 3 year slow burner/late developer like Bereton as gaps appear far, far more quickly. (Debatable if we could have afforded that then but now is a certainty not to.) 

Add all of this up and my word, we are struggling. We've half a squad to still fill. It's been a problem years in the making, and leaves a huge amount of work for a competent ownership to do, much less our lot.  

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

  On 24/08/2022 at 19:34, Athlete said:

From the EU they become dearer

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So by that logic, surely domestic prices will rise accordingly.

Edit: The only players that may come down in value are those like Diaz, with one year left.  

Edited August 24, 2022 by Wing Wizard Windy Miller