Transfer Window - COMPLETE. Where’s Gregg?

[47er]

3 minutes ago, superniko said:

Perhaps I'd start Ayala, when fully fit he's one of the best in the leauge

Yes-- I would.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Nobody came up with the not unreasonable asking price and the lad didn’t make any waves about leaving.

Do you like my new font ? My iPad obviously does.

[Sweaty Gussets]

3 minutes ago, 47er said:

It may not have been the club's decision.

It was the owners decision. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just now, 47er said:

Yes-- I would.

Seeing him sat on the bench last spring kept the three lads out there playing on their toes.

[47er]

3 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

It was the owners decision. 

I'm not ITK, are you? Plenty of rumours that he's happy here and doesn't want to leave (yet!)

[Sweaty Gussets]

5 minutes ago, 47er said:

I'm not ITK, are you? Plenty of rumours that he's happy here and doesn't want to leave (yet!)

You don't have to be ITK to know they turned offers down and would only sell if their price was met. It's literally been all over the press. 

The facts he's happy here is irrelevant if nobody met the valuation. He didn't have a choice but to stay. We'll never know that bit but the fact he won't sign a new contract suggests he'll be off within the next 12 months. 

Edited September 2, 2022 by Sweaty Gussets

[joey_big_nose]

16 minutes ago, superniko said:

How would people line-up at full fitness now then? (with the obvious caveat of unknown capabilities of some signings)

Kaminski

Brittain - Hyam - Wharton - Pickering

Wharton - Travis - Morton

Dack

Hedges - Brereton

 

Subs: Pears, Ayala, Mola, Buckley, Szmodics, Gallagher, Hirst

Backup: Carter, Philips, Edun, JRC, Garrett, Dolan, Vale

 

Perhaps I'd start Ayala, when fully fit he's one of the best in the leauge.

Broadly agree with a couple of tweaks. I think we would probably go like this in a 4231, and from Gregg's comments when he signed Hirst is viewed as a starter. And I can see Dack being more of a bench player when everyone is fit.
 

                     Kaminski

Brittain   Hyam   S Wharton  Pickering

               Travis      Morton

    Hedges     A Wharton     Brereton

                        Hirst

Subs: Pears, Ayala, Mola, Buckley, Szmodics, Gallagher, Dack

Backup: Carter, Philips, Edun, JRC, Garrett, Dolan, Vale

 

Think we will also play 30-40% of our games in 343 across the season. Think Ayala may not play that much as he won't let us push up due to lack of pace, and if we are honest with ourselves he's going to be injured for most of the season anyway.

                         Kaminski

              Carter    Hyam  S Wharton 

  Brittain      Travis      Morton     Pickering

                         A Wharton

                Hirst                   Brereton

Subs: Pears, Ayala, Mola, Buckley, Szmodics, Gallagher, Dack

Backup: Carter, Philips, Edun, JRC, Garrett, Dolan, Vale

Edited September 2, 2022 by joey_big_nose

[RoverDom]

13 minutes ago, superniko said:

How would people line-up at full fitness now then? (with the obvious caveat of unknown capabilities of some signings)

Kaminski

Brittain - Hyam - Wharton - Pickering

Wharton - Travis - Morton

Dack

Hedges - Brereton

 

Subs: Pears, Ayala, Mola, Buckley, Szmodics, Gallagher, Hirst

Backup: Carter, Philips, Edun, JRC, Garrett, Dolan, Vale

 

Perhaps I'd start Ayala, when fully fit he's one of the best in the leauge.

If Ayala, Hyam and Wharton are all fit it's a real head scratcher as to who starts for me. However I'd guess that situation will be a rarity to be honest. I like Ayala but for fitness reasons maybe Hyam for a settled back line

In midfield, Travis starts. Wharton if he can consistently produce like he did in the last game should be starting but that's a lot of pressure and expectation for a young lad but if he can handle it then great. If not i'm more than happy with Morton. 

 

Kaminski

Brittan - Hyam - Wharton - Pickering*

Travis Wharton 

Hedges Dack BBD

Hirst 

 

*or Mola if he can do a job there but I don't know much about him

[AllRoverAsia]

1 hour ago, Jimmy612 said:

I'd have to watch again, but I can't really remember Bowler getting to the byline too many times...  I felt like the more obvious threat was coming from their left (our right) in the form of Lavery and their left back (name escapes me).  

Certainly in the first half the knobhead known as Lavery was the more serious threat.

I can't recall many crosses from Bowler but yet to watch a replay.

JDT targeted Bowler and tactically dealt with him well.

Hyam will be a mainstay of our back line.

Edited September 2, 2022 by AllRoverAsia

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just now, AllRoverAsia said:

Certainly in the first half the knobhead known as Lavery was the more serious threat.

I can't recall many crosses from Bowler but yet to watch a replay.

JDT targeted Bowler and tactically dealt with him well.

You can do that when the opposition only has one real playmaker.

[AllRoverAsia]

2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

You can do that when the opposition only has one real playmaker.

Yes and he will be a massive loss to Blackpool, I really wanted his talent at Ewood.

[Mike E]

I'll try something different :

                 Kaminski

       Ayala  Hyam  Wharton

Brittan                           Pickering

           Travis   Wharton

                     Dack

            Hirst      Brereton

Bench:

Pears, Carter, Edun, Morton, Buckley, Szmodics, Hedges, Gallagher

Not sure I have the numbers right on the bench, but I aimed for a strong team, with as versatile a bench as possible alloeing for direct subs as well as tactical changes.

[47er]

38 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

You don't have to be ITK to know they turned offers down and would only sell if their price was met. It's literally been all over the press. 

The facts he's happy here is irrelevant if nobody met the valuation. He didn't have a choice but to stay. We'll never know that bit but the fact he won't sign a new contract suggests he'll be off within the next 12 months. 

Its also been reported  that he's happy and doesn't want to leave, not least by one on here who got it off his parents.

[47er]

Just now, Mike E said:

I'll try something different :

                 Kaminski

       Ayala  Hyam  Wharton

Brittan                           Pickering

           Travis   Wharton

                     Dack

            Hirst      Brereton

Bench:

Pears, Carter, Edun, Morton, Buckley, Szmodics, Hedges, Gallagher

Not sure I have the numbers right on the bench, but I aimed for a strong team, with as versatile a bench as possible alloeing for direct subs as well as tactical changes.

No Philips, not even on the bench! He won't sign on that basis. Problem eh?

[islander200]

1 hour ago, RoverDom said:

Out of interest, does anyone have a list of those who will be out of contract in the summer. 

Will ayala not have a year option as seems to be the norm these days? 

Even if he does it will be in the clubs favour so hopefully the club won't activate it.

Class defender for this level but hardly ever fit and his wages could be used on someone more reliable 

 

8 minutes ago, Mike E said:

I'll try something different :

                 Kaminski

       Ayala  Hyam  Wharton

Brittan                           Pickering

           Travis   Wharton

                     Dack

            Hirst      Brereton

Bench:

Pears, Carter, Edun, Morton, Buckley, Szmodics, Hedges, Gallagher

Not sure I have the numbers right on the bench, but I aimed for a strong team, with as versatile a bench as possible alloeing for direct subs as well as tactical changes.

Mola instead of Edun on the bench hopefully.

Surely he will be better than Edun or no point in signing him 

Edited September 2, 2022 by islander200

[Sweaty Gussets]

6 minutes ago, 47er said:

Its also been reported  that he's happy and doesn't want to leave, not least by one on here who got it off his parents.

But we agree it was the club's decision not to sell him?

[islander200]

50 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Broadly agree with a couple of tweaks. I think we would probably go like this in a 4231, and from Gregg's comments when he signed Hirst is viewed as a starter. And I can see Dack being more of a bench player when everyone is fit.
 

                     Kaminski

Brittain   Hyam   S Wharton  Pickering

               Travis      Morton

    Hedges     A Wharton     Brereton

                        Hirst

Subs: Pears, Ayala, Mola, Buckley, Szmodics, Gallagher, Dack

Backup: Carter, Philips, Edun, JRC, Garrett, Dolan, Vale

 

Think we will also play 30-40% of our games in 343 across the season. Think Ayala may not play that much as he won't let us push up due to lack of pace, and if we are honest with ourselves he's going to be injured for most of the season anyway.

                         Kaminski

              Carter    Hyam  S Wharton 

  Brittain      Travis      Morton     Pickering

                         A Wharton

                Hirst                   Brereton

Subs: Pears, Ayala, Mola, Buckley, Szmodics, Gallagher, Dack

Backup: Carter, Philips, Edun, JRC, Garrett, Dolan, Vale

Dack has to be a starter, him and Brererton are the 2 players who can be relied upon for goals

[ChrisPriceBaldSpot]

[Sparks Rover]

1 hour ago, Jimmy612 said:

Okay, barring one shot which went over (first half I think) and one volley from a corner (not related to Pickering's performance, I can't remember him having any joy whatsoever. 

He's not my favourite by a mile, I've been extremely critical of him, but if Blackpool's best player has little more than a sniff against him then he's done his job, has he not? 

Just on the... "he's left footed mate" - he's a Premier League footballer - if he doesn't have the capacity to beat a full back on the outside and cross with his weak foot, he shouldn't be there, frankly - especially when his preferred avenue has clearly been found out by the opposition.  Grealish could be a decent comparison - right footed naturally plays on the left,  and certainly isn't afraid to go on the outside and keep his opposite number guessing. 

I agree.

I think with Bowler turning inside naturally made Pickerings life easier that evening. He didn't do anything wrong,  but I still want him out.

Bowler 2m, Grealish 100m....you pays your money you get the goods.

[Sparks Rover]

11 minutes ago, ChrisPriceBaldSpot said:

Wot No Bucko?  

[47er]

13 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

But we agree it was the club's decision not to sell him?

No, I don't know, it may have been  both or either.. The Club can't sell him if he doesn't want to go.

I'm not arguing anymore about it.

[Sweaty Gussets]

4 minutes ago, 47er said:

No, I don't know, it may have been  both or either.. The Club can't sell him if he doesn't want to go.

I'm not arguing anymore about it.

The club turned down the bids. The end.

And it wasn't an argument, it was a discussion. 

[Gav]

3 minutes ago, 47er said:

No, I don't know, it may have been  both or either.. The Club can't sell him if he doesn't want to go.

I'm not arguing anymore about it.

We all know if a player wants to leave, kicks up a massive fuss, he forces through a move, very rarely do clubs put players in reserves and let them rot, they move them on. 

Thankfully Brereton is the consummate professional, has worked his socks off to get where he is and we are lucky to have him.

[rigger]

2 hours ago, R0verb0y said:

Or start Sunderland's for them, maybe? After all, it's a phenomenon their manager's used to!

I think that is what the post meant, not the start of a Rovers death spiral.

[47er]

20 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

The end.

good!