RoversClitheroe Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, Mellor Rover said: Talk about the finances involved are concerning, but, objectively, this is a fantastic signing even on loan. Was in the conversation of the best CB in the championship in his time at Preston. EDIT: The worry of course is if we don't sign anyone else of that caliber, then it's almost pointless. We won't be going up and will have to give him back in 12 months. I'm in complete agreement, the finances involved seem crazy for a loan. Liverpool don't even need him in or around the first team so we shouldn't break the bank (or this bs wage structure) to get him. E.g. I think there are more inventive signings we could make that won't cost an arm and a leg. 2 Quote
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TheRevAshton Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, neophox said: Surely a danish player will be coming this window. You'd think so! I've been looking at a bunch of them who are in our price-range. Carlo Holse looks like a good'en from the clips i've seen, and scout reports suggest he's a talent. He's currently playing for Rosenberg and making peanuts even compared to what we could offer, contract expires in 2024 mind so they might want a few million. I hope they're (as expected) really scouring the Scandi' leagues in the background, there are some great prospects over there who'd probably jump at the chance to play under JDT, whilst receiving a decent pay bump too. Edited July 13, 2022 by TheRevAshton Quote
damo100 Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, bazza said: Surely 6 Danish players will be coming this window. I wonder if the club's chef gets cheaper bacon these days? Quote
Guest Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said: Carlo Holse looks like a good'en from the clips i've seen, and scout reports suggest he's a talent. He's currently playing for Rosenberg and making peanuts even compared to what we could offer, contract expires in 2024 mind so they might want a few million. Fails work permit. Use this it's super helpful https://analyticsfc.co.uk/gbe-calculator/ Almost all of the Scandinavian league players do. Quote
TheRevAshton Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 1 minute ago, JoeH said: Fails work permit. Use this it's super helpful https://analyticsfc.co.uk/gbe-calculator/ Almost all of the Scandinavian league players do. Ahh very handy cheers! I guess I can stop hoping for his name to pop up now then 🤣 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) Apparently we are being pushed to sign Davies on a perm. I'd be much happier with that, but it depends on the wage. https://twitter.com/RyanTaylorSport/status/1547183080791752704?t=PzfzK0G8S2lb2_Ia6FRVgA&s=19 Edited July 13, 2022 by RoversClitheroe 3 Quote
TheRevAshton Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: Apparently we are being pushed to sign Davies on a perm. I'd be much happier with that, but it depends on the wage. https://twitter.com/RyanTaylorSport/status/1547183080791752704?t=PzfzK0G8S2lb2_Ia6FRVgA&s=19 If he'd be happy with less than 20k/pw then great - but how much would Liverpool expect for him with 3 years left on his contract? Quote
martonrover Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, bazza said: Surely 6 Danish players will be coming this window. Swedes more likely, but we'll probably end up buying them from Aldi. Quote
MarkBRFC Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: Apparently we are being pushed to sign Davies on a perm. I'd be much happier with that, but it depends on the wage. https://twitter.com/RyanTaylorSport/status/1547183080791752704?t=PzfzK0G8S2lb2_Ia6FRVgA&s=19 I imagine a permanent move would rule us out. 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 9 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Well we have to agree to disagree cos I think he has be breath of fresh air since being appointed. He spoke well, has a clear way how he wants us to play, communicate well. I never said he hasn't spoke well, my point was that there isn't anything tangible to judge him on, no games played, no signings made. But even if we took an approach of trust blindly until he proves otherwise, no manager is perfect, hence my Pep comment, therefore you can surely question rumoured signings without losing total faith in the manager. You don't need to remove critical faculty, if you aren't sure about a certain aspect of a rumoured signing, then that's fine. Quote
ItsRoverZ Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: I imagine a permanent move would rule us out. I don't know, because our interest in Anel was supposedly real? So we must of bid 3 mil for him? Maybe 2 to 3 mil for Davies too? Quote
Jimmy612 Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 1 minute ago, ItsRoverZ said: I don't know, because our interest in Anel was supposedly real? So we must of bid 3 mil for him? Maybe 2 to 3 mil for Davies too? His wages are the stumbling block, never mind the fee. According to some sources, Liverpool gave him a six year deal worth 60K p/w 😂 https://www.spotrac.com/epl/liverpool-fc/ben-davies-71614/ If that's the case he's over our max wage outlay by about 300%. Quote
47er Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Jimmy612 said: His wages are the stumbling block, never mind the fee. According to some sources, Liverpool gave him a six year deal worth 60K p/w 😂 https://www.spotrac.com/epl/liverpool-fc/ben-davies-71614/ If that's the case he's over our max wage outlay by about 300%. Odd to lose Lenihan,Nyambe and Rothwell because we couldn't pay them and then to pay out that much to Davies. If that's what's required to get him, surely this has no chance. 8 Quote
ItsRoverZ Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said: His wages are the stumbling block, never mind the fee. According to some sources, Liverpool gave him a six year deal worth 60K p/w 😂 https://www.spotrac.com/epl/liverpool-fc/ben-davies-71614/ If that's the case he's over our max wage outlay by about 300%. That's a fair point, for some reason I thought his wages were 20k a week not bloody 60k! That's mad 2 Quote
islander200 Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said: His wages are the stumbling block, never mind the fee. According to some sources, Liverpool gave him a six year deal worth 60K p/w 😂 https://www.spotrac.com/epl/liverpool-fc/ben-davies-71614/ If that's the case he's over our max wage outlay by about 300%. I still don't believe they are paying him that much. Liverpool ain't daft.He was on less than 20k at Preston. Why would Liverpool pay a player who was never going to play much 3x+ his wage? It's not like other clubs were offering 60k a week to a 25 year old CB who had never played above championship level. Iv seen other places suggest his wage is £30k per week which is far more likely 2 Quote
Butty Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 There’s not a chance in hell that Ben Davies is on 60k a week. 7 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 What will be baffling, will be if we pay a fee and then we also give him a bigger contract than we offered Lenihan. 3 Quote
islander200 Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: What will be baffling, will be if we pay a fee and then we also give him a bigger contract than we offered Lenihan. Davies is a better player than Lenihen. Lenihen last contract offer that he turned down was 22k per week. 8 Quote
Irish_Rover Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, islander200 said: Davies is a better player than Lenihen. Lenihen last contract offer that he turned down was 22k per week. Was it definately 22k per week we offered him? That isn't too bad in all honesty, I still had assumed we were trying to screw him over to the tune of around 10 or 15k per week. Edited July 13, 2022 by Irish_Rover Quote
RoverRB Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, islander200 said: I still don't believe they are paying him that much. Liverpool ain't daft.He was on less than 20k at Preston. Why would Liverpool pay a player who was never going to play much 3x+ his wage? It's not like other clubs were offering 60k a week to a 25 year old CB who had never played above championship level. Iv seen other places suggest his wage is £30k per week which is far more likely Preston’s wage structure is more strict than ours so I’m with you. Highly doubt he’s on that much. Quote
TheRevAshton Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Irish_Rover said: Was it definately 22k per week we offered him? That isn't too bad in all honesty, I still had assumed we were trying to screw him over to the tune of around 10 or 15k per week. I've heard from a good source that he was indeed offered around 22k per week until 2025 Edited July 13, 2022 by TheRevAshton 3 Quote
Admiral Nelsen Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 47 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: I imagine a permanent move would rule us out. Liverpool seem to see him as totally surplus to requirements, so it could just come down to accepting the best offer that comes their way (including subsiding a big chunk of his wages if they're as high as some are suggesting). That's obviously not to say that the best offer would come from us - I can't see us offering the same sort of fee that we supposedly were for the Bosnian lad seeing as there's little chance of getting a big profit further down the line. We might still be able to offer a semi-decent fee though, which might be enough with a bit of luck. Quote
phili Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, RoverRB said: Preston’s wage structure is more strict than ours so I’m with you. Highly doubt he’s on that much. It wouldn't surprise me if he was. Below average wage and they were in a bind when they signed him. It's just a shock to us with being out of the premier League for 12 years 1 Quote
joey_big_nose Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said: I've heard from a good source that he was indeed offered around 22k per week until 2025 What's depressing is if we offered him that a year ago I'm pretty sure he would have signed. 4 Quote
Danny O.Brien Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 If he's on say 20k a week at Liverpool. We can offer around that plus a rise if promoted. Plus he'll be desperate to play football again. Quote
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