jim mk2 Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 Plea to the owners: We desperately need players Time to splash the cash and capitalise on the good start and the feelgood factor around the club Make Brighton a very good offer for Van Hecke and get him signed up. And others too. 7 Quote
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Sweaty Gussets Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, jim mk2 said: Plea to the owners: We desperately need players Time to splash the cash and capitalise on the good start and the feelgood factor around the club Make Brighton a very good offer for Van Hecke and get him signed up. And others too. SvdB is on his way. Don't worry yourself about the finer contractual details. JDT has got it covered. Quote
CambridgeRover Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 Centre half prior 1. Then left back. 1 Quote
Sweaty Gussets Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said: Centre half prior 1. Then left back. ...and don't sell BBD. 1 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) Wharton out for a few weeks yet…Need x 2 CBs in asap! Edited August 14, 2022 by BankEnd Rover Quote
JacknOry Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 35 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said: SvdB is on his way. Don't worry yourself about the finer contractual details. JDT has got it covered. Need him in sharpish - he is also decent as a RB - would have been ideal for us today. Then another CB on top. Philippis didnt look out of place at all - so he could become a big part of the squad. Needs to sign the contract though. He wont get game time at Spurs thats for sure. 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 5 hours ago, tomphil said: Personally i'd rather see Carter than VDB but looks like his injury might be a long problem. Or they'll loan in this lad and flog Carter to Pompey i wouldn't be surprised if that happened. Why? Van Den Berg is a player who has been a stand out performer at Championship level for 18 months so surely that puts him ahead of Carter at the moment? 4 hours ago, Tom said: Those clauses are awful. In the case of Poveda it could have resulted in coming on instead of the likes of Dolan purely to avoid triggering a ‘fine’ it’s a dangerous path to go down The problem comes if the manager ever considers any fine when making changes. If he does, and it's a real grey area, then it is a problem. Also, if he gets a bad injury, you are paying extra for the privilege of having a player unavailable, potentially. Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 1 hour ago, jim mk2 said: Plea to the owners: We desperately need players Time to splash the cash and capitalise on the good start and the feelgood factor around the club Make Brighton a very good offer for Van Hecke and get him signed up. And others too. jdt and broughton keep saying the budget is very healthy 2 Quote
jim mk2 Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 Just now, simongarnerisgod said: jdt and broughton keep saying the budget is very healthy That's good., though I'll only believe it when they do. It needs spending soon Quote
tomphil Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Why? Van Den Berg is a player who has been a stand out performer at Championship level for 18 months so surely that puts him ahead of Carter at the moment? The problem comes if the manager ever considers any fine when making changes. If he does, and it's a real grey area, then it is a problem. Also, if he gets a bad injury, you are paying extra for the privilege of having a player unavailable, potentially. Because i expect him to step up after his loan like Wharton did, obviously now he's injuer so that puts a different slant on it. However why block his progress when fit ? Van Dan Berg has been at Preston 2 seasons and is now looking at coming to us with guaranteed games. So yes he has experience to slot straight in which is good but why is no one else snapping him up ? Nothing to say Carter couldn't do the job we need and he's one of our own. Van Hecke 1 season here now maybe around his parent clubs Prem squad. Tosin 1 season here snapped up by money bags ambitious Fulham. Quote
roversfan99 Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 1 minute ago, tomphil said: Because i expect him to step up after his loan like Wharton did, obviously now he's injuer so that puts a different slant on it. However why block his progress when fit ? Van Dan Berg has been at Preston 2 seasons and is now looking at coming to us with guaranteed games. So yes he has experience to slot straight in which is good but why is no one else snapping him up ? Nothing to say Carter couldn't do the job we need and he's one of our own. Van Hecke 1 season here now maybe around his parent clubs Prem squad. Tosin 1 season here snapped up by money bags ambitious Fulham. The key should be to put out the best team though, and get results. If that includes loan players, so be it. Maybe even we can loan out Carter once more if we end up signing 2. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 32 minutes ago, JacknOry said: Need him in sharpish - he is also decent as a RB - would have been ideal for us today. Then another CB on top. Philippis didnt look out of place at all - so he could become a big part of the squad. Needs to sign the contract though. He wont get game time at Spurs thats for sure. Phillips was quality today - you don't want to play him too much, too young, but he can absolutely play at this level. No concerns about him at all as one of the options at CB. Need one more though - two if Carter / Wharton are out for any length of time. Five is enough at CB with Pickering able to cover as the sixth choice. 2 Quote
JacknOry Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, tomphil said: Because i expect him to step up after his loan like Wharton did, obviously now he's injuer so that puts a different slant on it. However why block his progress when fit ? Van Dan Berg has been at Preston 2 seasons and is now looking at coming to us with guaranteed games. So yes he has experience to slot straight in which is good but why is no one else snapping him up ? Nothing to say Carter couldn't do the job we need and he's one of our own. Van Hecke 1 season here now maybe around his parent clubs Prem squad. Tosin 1 season here snapped up by money bags ambitious Fulham. Burnley are just one of several clubs reportedly after VDB. Plus, he was on pool's bench last game - they not too sure about letting him out as they have been hit with a few injuries. Quote
tomphil Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: The key should be to put out the best team though, and get results. If that includes loan players, so be it. Maybe even we can loan out Carter once more if we end up signing 2. We have changed tack now though somewhat and the key should be build with our own where possible. Just grabbing players on loan and then fitting them in especially if they have caveats to that loan is the Mowbray way. If we sign this lad with a view to buy fair enough but to grab him and he keeps Carter out whilst costing a load of money is a bit counter productive. Obviously not if he helps promotion but that is still a pipe dream. Quote
Hasta Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 32 minutes ago, tomphil said: Obviously not if he helps promotion but that is still a pipe dream. Think big. Quote
tomphil Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, Hasta said: Think big. I did last January, nobody down there did though. 5 Quote
Hasta Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, tomphil said: I did last January, nobody down there did though. Not the point I was making, but agreed. Quote
Swanson Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 We do need defenders so Gregg should look to the Bundesliga and his former players Marius Lode (CB) and Fredrik Bjørkan (LB), they don't seem to get much gametime at Schalke and Hertha. 2 Quote
moerpho Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) Those two won't come cheap and are a perfect fit for the way JDT wants to play. Bjørkan is s really good wing/back when in form and also have goals in him. Don't think the system in his current club suites him - hence he is not playing. Good enough to play for Norway with Haaland - probably good enough for us. Same goes for Lode. But probably out of our price range Edited August 14, 2022 by moerpho Bloody autocorrect 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted August 14, 2022 Author Posted August 14, 2022 2 hours ago, roversfan99 said: The problem comes if the manager ever considers any fine when making changes. If he does, and it's a real grey area, then it is a problem. JDT wouldn't even take that into any considering when picking the team. that is clear from his comments since he joined here 2 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Also, if he gets a bad injury, you are paying extra for the privilege of having a player unavailable, potentially. That why you put a clause in about that if injury or suspension happen we pay the same wages as if he was playing. Quote
slowmo Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 Desperate for a cb in the next couple of days , who can hit the ground running. Got away with it today , but 3 game week with Sheffield next Sunday .... 6 Quote
roversfan99 Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: JDT wouldn't even take that into any considering when picking the team. that is clear from his comments since he joined here That why you put a clause in about that if injury or suspension happen we pay the same wages as if he was playing. You cant possibly know if Tomasson would or wouldnt consider or be asked and pressured into considering financial consequences of his team selections. No one can ever dismiss that point out of hand. And even if he did consider it, he wouldnt say as such publically. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted August 14, 2022 Author Posted August 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: You cant possibly know if Tomasson would or wouldnt consider or be asked and pressured into considering financial consequences of his team selections. No one can ever dismiss that point out of hand. And even if he did consider it, he wouldnt say as such publically. JDT has always said the team is more important from day one including in his first meeting with the players, the media and he mention most interviews. Trying to make an issue out about a small part of the detail which is probably that if he doesn't play we pay more of his wages and he does play we pay less. If JDT wants him and think he will be key player for us then lets get sign up ASAP 11 minutes ago, slowmo said: Desperate for a cb in the next couple of days , who can hit the ground running. Got away with it today , but 3 game week with Sheffield next Sunday .... Sheffield United game is on Saturday 1 Quote
booth Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: If JDT wants him and think he will be key player for us then lets get sign up ASAP Den Berg and Styles would give us the defence needed for the way JDT wants to play. Styles could also play midfield if needed so gives us options. 4 Quote
roversfan99 Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 Markanday and Rankin Costello both picked up injuries for the under 21s, leaving us potentially even shorter. 1 Quote
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