Transfer Window - COMPLETE. Where’s Gregg?

[lraC]

  On 15/08/2022 at 17:06, Exiled_Rover said:

My dad turned to me after his goal on Sunday and said "if I was a PL club on the fence about buying him, that would have convinced me". 

He obviously then went on to skin two Watford players and lay it on a plate for Gallagher. 

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Watford must be gutted. Ben skinning their players, when we are playing West Brom.

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 15/08/2022 at 17:32, Mashed Potatoes said:

Shearer was the best player in the country ! Phillips has played a couple of games.

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Best in the Country at his age though possibly? 

How much would he be worth in future if under contract? It would be a ludicrous false economy to miss out on a potential fee of £40m or £50m two or three years down the line because we weren't prepared to invest a couple of million now in giving him a decent contract.

[roversfan99]

  On 15/08/2022 at 17:22, RevidgeBlue said:

On the flip side though, if the owners decided they wanted to sell Players A, B, C and D to either secure the Club's financial future or even simply because they wished to trouser the cash then the manager would have no say in that whatsoever, he'd have to grin and bear it.

So why should it be solely Mowbray or JDT's decision whether or not a key asset is sold? If Venky's decide they particularly want to keep a key player then they should be entitled to make that choice or at least have a say in the matter. The manager works for them not the other way round.

 

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They appoint those managers (and also now a director of football) because they are far more qualified to make decisions about players than themselves.

They shouldn't be making decisions that potentially undermine the manager/go against the plan that the manager is trying to adopt because they "like" a player.

  On 15/08/2022 at 17:31, RevidgeBlue said:

Think that's rubbish personally. None of the rest of the squad (with the possible exception of BBD if he signs a new deal) have a potential future resale value of £40 - £50m. When they have, well then, then they might have a right to complain

Do you think the rest of the squad were unhappy about Shearer earning more than everyone else 92 - 96? Or do you think they'd just be happy to have him in their side rather than someone else's?

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How can you possibly already have come up with that potential figure? He has played 2 senior games, 1 v Hartlepool.

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 15/08/2022 at 17:36, Gav said:

With the greatest of respect that simply isn't true.

How would that make any sense for a club with injuries and its main striker going away on international duty?

If it doesn't make sense its probably not true.

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With the greatest of respect it is true - what was going on in Mowbray's head was anyone's guess . However he freely admitted it was his own decision not to bring another striker in as "we don't play that way".

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 15/08/2022 at 17:38, roversfan99 said:

How can you possibly already have come up with that potential figure? He has played 2 senior games, 1 v Hartlepool.

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Why wouldn't he be worth that in years to come?

All these top Premier League Clubs aren't sniffing round him for no reason.

[Mashed Potatoes]

  On 15/08/2022 at 17:44, RevidgeBlue said:

Why wouldn't he be worth that in years to come?

All these top Premier League Clubs aren't sniffing round him for no reason.

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The moment there is a couple of million for Phillips then Jake Batty will be looking for something similar. Just paying a significant percentage of our wage bill in the hope that it will all come good one day in the future is a form of Russian Roulette.

[roversfan99]

  On 15/08/2022 at 17:40, RevidgeBlue said:

With the greatest of respect it is true - what was going on in Mowbray's head was anyone's guess . However he freely admitted it was his own decision not to bring another striker in as "we don't play that way".

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We haven't played with an out and out striker in the last 2 league games nor in the 6 game winning streak last season.

Seems an illogical rumour that we had a similar amount of money to the amount we would have raised had the owners not prevented the sale of Rothwell, and that he chose not to spend the £5m but wanted to reinvest the £3-4m of a potential sale.

One thing I suppose Venkys can be summed up as is illogical. Lets hope they don't try and interfere under Tomasson especially as he may well not stand for such nonsense.

  On 15/08/2022 at 17:44, RevidgeBlue said:

Why wouldn't he be worth that in years to come?

All these top Premier League Clubs aren't sniffing round him for no reason.

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He may be, but it is one hell of an unsubstantiated suggestion at this stage, to use that price tag.

[islander200]

  On 15/08/2022 at 17:36, Gav said:

With the greatest of respect that simply isn't true.

How would that make any sense for a club with injuries and its main striker going away on international duty?

If it doesn't make sense its probably not true.

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I don't know if £5 million but didn't Mowbray himself admit we had money to spend but he chose not too?

[roversfan99]

  On 15/08/2022 at 17:57, islander200 said:

I don't know if £5 million but didn't Mowbray himself admit we had money to spend but he chose not too?

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He said that he turned down strikers, but that they were kids on loan from the Premier League.

Makes no sense that he turned down money to spend yet also wanted to sell Rothwell to get money to spend, therefore I would suggest that the rumour is false.

[JacknOry]

  On 15/08/2022 at 17:24, xtp said:

At that point, 75% of our squad start knocking on Waggot's door asking why some kid who's played one game is getting 2-3 times their salary. Would annihilate squad morale instantly. 

Estimated (guessed) squad wages last year: https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-championship/blackburn-rovers/

 

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That link is very inaccurate to begin with. Then, if a 17 year old is put on pro terms to reflect his status as a first teamer/squad player and players feel they deserve more - they can come to the discussion table when their contracts need reneweing. I think most would understand the situation if the lad is worht more to the club long term than they are. Shearer came in on 10x the wages of other first teamers. You just accept it and see if you yourself get a better deal down the line. You earn due to your perceived value to the club. 

[JacknOry]

  On 15/08/2022 at 17:32, Mashed Potatoes said:

Shearer was the best player in the country ! Phillips has played a couple of games.

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Not at that time he wasnt. Potentially, yes - but he was playing for Southampton.

[Mashed Potatoes]

  On 15/08/2022 at 17:58, JacknOry said:

That link is very inaccurate to begin with. Then, if a 17 year old is put on pro terms to reflect his status as a first teamer/squad player and players feel they deserve more - they can come to the discussion table when their contracts need reneweing. I think most would understand the situation if the lad is worht more to the club long term than they are. Shearer came in on 10x the wages of other first teamers. You just accept it and see if you yourself get a better deal down the line. You earn due to your perceived value to the club. 

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Shearer had signed for a then record transfer fee. Phillips is nowhere near that; when he is then he gets paid accordingly.

[JacknOry]

  On 15/08/2022 at 17:48, Mashed Potatoes said:

The moment there is a couple of million for Phillips then Jake Batty will be looking for something similar. Just paying a significant percentage of our wage bill in the hope that it will all come good one day in the future is a form of Russian Roulette.

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Okay so we lose a player with the potential of bringing in a huge transfer fee - for peanuts. If Batty was as highly rated at just turned 17, we'd be having the same conversation. 

[JacknOry]

  On 15/08/2022 at 18:01, Mashed Potatoes said:

Shearer had signed for a then record transfer fee. Phillips is nowhere near that; when he is then he gets paid accordingly.

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So a potential loss of many many millions. 

[Mashed Potatoes]

  On 15/08/2022 at 18:03, JacknOry said:

So a potential loss of many many millions. 

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Football is littered with teenagers with "potential" who failed to match the hype. 

[Sweaty Gussets]

We should rename Ewood the Ash Phillips Arena, give him £100k a week and  make Dack his chauffeur. 

Edited August 15, 2022 by Sweaty Gussets

[JacknOry]

  On 15/08/2022 at 18:06, Mashed Potatoes said:

Football is littered with teenagers with "potential" who failed to match the hype. 

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So you dont think he will make it? 

Tell you what, i would rather spend half of Ayala's wages for four years finding out while the latter goes on another Xmas holiday. 

Edited August 15, 2022 by JacknOry

[roversfan99]

Van Den Berg on the bench for Liverpool tonight.

[islander200]

  On 15/08/2022 at 17:58, roversfan99 said:

He said that he turned down strikers, but that they were kids on loan from the Premier League.

Makes no sense that he turned down money to spend yet also wanted to sell Rothwell to get money to spend, therefore I would suggest that the rumour is false.

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Fair enough but we also have people discussing that Mowbray could have brought in Jed Wallace for the money when Wallace is on a deal that far exceeds our highest earner.

No way could we have brought in Wallace and Dembele for the initial £3 million we were supposedly selling Rothwell to Bournemouth for.

[Cordoba]

Massively sketchy looking account but might as well chuck it up 👀

[simongarnerisgod]

🤣jones is on 100000k  a week at utd,that would be some pay cut 🤣

[JacknOry]

A pay cut? You would think so - lol

[superniko]

I read that Watford rejected a £20m bid for Joao Pedro from Newcastle today. 

Obviously the contract is going against us with Ben but surely £20m has to be the minimum we’d accept now. 

[Sweaty Gussets]

  On 15/08/2022 at 18:18, Jaybes said:

Massively sketchy looking account but might as well chuck it up 👀

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How would a 'pay cut' work when Phil Jones is under contract!? Or are they just going to cancel his Utd contract? Or is it just complete bullshit?

Hmmm...

[rebelmswar]

  On 15/08/2022 at 18:18, Jaybes said:

Massively sketchy looking account but might as well chuck it up 👀

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Could buy two players for a year of his wages. Fantastic picture choice.