Transfer Window - COMPLETE. Where’s Gregg?

[chaddyrovers]

  On 22/08/2022 at 11:07, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

We need 6 minimum. Although there are a couple of players we should be looking to sell. 

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Everybody has different opinions on how many signings we need. Its all about quality signings and making sure our budget can stretch to bring in what we need. 

[Sparks Rover]

  On 22/08/2022 at 11:07, Herbie6590 said:

BBD will be by now valued at zero in our books so every £ we get for him is pure profit towards FFP…

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Apart from the sell on fee.....%%%%

[Exiled_Rover]

  On 22/08/2022 at 11:23, Sparks Rover said:

Apart from the sell on fee.....%%%%

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If we agreed a sell on percentage for an unproven 18 year old that we spent £7m on then heads need to roll.

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 22/08/2022 at 11:18, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Not entirely true.  Clubs may make offers, we can accept them. BBD  may refuse them obviously..but future clubs may be put off a player that isn't willing to be sold and will just run a contract down. 

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Possibly, but he will have to decide whether the potential financial upside against that is a risk worth taking as regards his own career.

The point is, if he does decide to go down that route there's nothing we can do about it. The most we can do is freeze him out (which would be cutting off our nose to spite our face when the alternative is Sam Gallagher) and again that's a possibility BBD would have to take into consideration.

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[Miller11]

Gregg has got some serious work to do to prevent this being the worst transfer window in Rovers history.

[Guest]

  On 22/08/2022 at 11:01, J*B said:

If you’re happy to let a 7M investment leave on a free when he could be sold for 12-15M then I don’t really know what to say. 

Do you think Waggott and Pasha will let that happen?

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If we don't replace him, which is @Revidge Blue's point, we'll go down if we sell him as our current squad is, I've no doubt.

We wouldn't score 50 goals this season if he left.

[TheKitGuy]

Let brereton go for circa £25M bring in Belotti on a free and let's go up as champions. 

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 22/08/2022 at 11:32, Miller11 said:

Gregg has got some serious work to do to prevent this being the worst transfer window in Rovers history.

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Not sure if that is strictly speaking the case in terms of arrivals through the door, but it is the transfer window where more needed to be done than ever before due to the negligence of Waggott and Mowbray and you have to say that so far the Club have  singularly failed to address it.

Edit: It's not like it's a surprise either. We've known for 18 months or more that the 3 amigos might not sign new deals and might need to be replaced and it must have been obvious since the early part of last season we'd need to up the ante considerably for BBD.

Edited August 22, 2022 by RevidgeBlue

[the original david brent]

  On 22/08/2022 at 10:39, TheRevAshton said:

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The Dack situation surely won’t be helping this. My understanding is Diaz & Dack are top mates if not best mates at the club. Freezing your best mate out of the team & playing inferior players in his place isn’t going to entice him to sign on the dotted line! 

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 22/08/2022 at 11:38, TheKitGuy said:

Let brereton go for circa £25M bring in Belotti on a free and let's go up as champions. 

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What if teams are offering less than half that?

[Mike E]

  On 22/08/2022 at 08:51, J*B said:

Where do you reckon the new one fits in Mike? I’ve put below the centre backs in the order I would pick them, where does the new one fit in for you? 

Ayala

Wharton

Carter

Phillips

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Ayala

Wharton

New Guy (or higher, depending on ability)

Phillips

Carter (only because I haven't yet seen him).

[Finlay McKenna]

  On 22/08/2022 at 11:32, Miller11 said:

Gregg has got some serious work to do to prevent this being the worst transfer window in Rovers history.

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Mowbray must've been an absolute miracle worker then considering that by this point last year we'd only signed Leighton Clarkson and lost just as much

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 22/08/2022 at 11:47, Finlay McKenna said:

Mowbray must've been an absolute miracle worker then considering that by this point last year we'd only signed Leighton Clarkson and lost just as much

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We hadn't lost three permanent first teamers of the calibre of DL, RN and JR at this point last year though.

(Edit: Plus JPVH and to a lesser extent Khedra)

Edited August 22, 2022 by RevidgeBlue

[TheKitGuy]

  On 22/08/2022 at 11:40, RevidgeBlue said:

What if teams are offering less than half that?

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To be honest mate we will never sign Belotti not in a billion years.. I'd take £15M for brereton as I can't see him performing at whichever club he chooses to go to next 

[lraC]

  On 22/08/2022 at 11:39, RevidgeBlue said:

Not sure if that is strictly speaking the case in terms of arrivals through the door, but it is the transfer window where more needed to be done than ever before due to the negligence of Waggott and Mowbray and you have to say that so far the Club have  singularly failed to address it.

Edit: It's not like it's a surprise either. We've known for 18 months or more that the 3 amigos might not sign new deals and might need to be replaced and it must have been obvious since the early part of last season we'd need to up the ante considerably for BBD.

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Only in the world of Venkys would we appoint the likes of Broughton, who seems to have an affliction to talking in the media and to players agents. Hope he doesn’t tell us he works for nothing next and sleeps at the training ground. If we sign his son, I am ruining for the hills. 

[Finlay McKenna]

  On 22/08/2022 at 11:51, RevidgeBlue said:

We hadn't lost three permanent first teamers of the calibre of DL, RN and JR at this point last year though.

(Edit: Plus JPVH and to a lesser extent Khedra)

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Adam Armstrong, Harvey Elliott, Lewis Holtby...

[rigger]

  On 22/08/2022 at 10:20, RevidgeBlue said:

That has to be absolute nonsense surely. What's the point from the Club's  point of view of allowing him to sign a deal that lets him move out on loan at more or less any given point?

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Because if he moves whilst contracted we will get a fee. If he isn't contracted we will get an amount settled by a tribunal, probably next to nothing.

[DE.]

Tbf the Armstrong departure would have been a disaster if Brereton hadn't stepped up, as we didn't replace him. Not sure there's anybody waiting in the wings now to bail us out if BBD is sold.

[47er]

  On 22/08/2022 at 10:59, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

As others have said, depends on whether JDT wants to play 2 or 3cb.  

Wharton and Ayala have done nothing wrong this season so should keep the shirt initially, regardless of who comes in. Carter should be cover.  The young lad should be 5th choice.  Should still get a few games or more if we play with a 3. Don't need 2 centrebacks coming in  IMO. 

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Looking at or defence I think I'd be going for 3 at the back.

[Finlay McKenna]

  On 22/08/2022 at 12:03, DE. said:

Tbf the Armstrong departure would have been a disaster if Brereton hadn't stepped up, as we didn't replace him. Not sure there's anybody waiting in the wings now to bail us out if BBD is sold.

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Gallagher got any South American relatives?

[JHRover]

Conspiracy theory time. Anyone reckon Dack's card is marked because they want his wages off the books?

He must be top earner with Ayala by some distance. They can't get rid of Ayala and he's out of contract soon anyway so not too much to worry about there. Can't imagine, given the drive to cut wages, that Dack's are sitting particularly well with those running the show.

[47er]

  On 22/08/2022 at 12:08, JHRover said:

Conspiracy theory time. Anyone reckon Dack's card is marked because they want his wages off the books?

He must be top earner with Ayala by some distance. They can't get rid of Ayala and he's out of contract soon anyway so not too much to worry about there. Can't imagine, given the drive to cut wages, that Dack's are sitting particularly well with those running the show.

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Won't get any fee for Dack till he can prove his fitness.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

  On 22/08/2022 at 12:05, 47er said:

Looking at or defence I think I'd be going for 3 at the back.

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Inclined to agree but then we definitely do need a new left wing back.

[davulsukur]

  On 22/08/2022 at 12:03, DE. said:

Tbf the Armstrong departure would have been a disaster if Brereton hadn't stepped up, as we didn't replace him. Not sure there's anybody waiting in the wings now to bail us out if BBD is sold.

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Nar, there won't be a repeat of that happening with the players at our disposal.

If he leaves and is not replaced, we're royally screwed.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

  On 22/08/2022 at 12:08, JHRover said:

Conspiracy theory time. Anyone reckon Dack's card is marked because they want his wages off the books?

He must be top earner with Ayala by some distance. They can't get rid of Ayala and he's out of contract soon anyway so not too much to worry about there. Can't imagine, given the drive to cut wages, that Dack's are sitting particularly well with those running the show.

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He's out of contract next summer as well isn't he?  Although I think the club have a year option.