RevidgeBlue Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Mellor Rover said: Middlesbrough averaged 22k last season at home, we averaged 13.5k. You can't spend money you don't have Gav! Can Gibson afford to put the maximum allowable under FFP every season into the Club without even blinking like Venky's? And does he? Genuine question The differential in income between 22.5 k fans and 13k fans doesn't seem that great to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Finlay McKenna Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Depending on who the 3/4 incomings are I think we’ll probably finish the window just as strong as we finished last summer, don’t see any reason why we can’t compete for playoffs, all a test of how good JDT really is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Tom Posted August 26, 2022 Backroom Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Finlay McKenna said: Caulker’s reputation amongst English fans is damaged by his performances during a period of struggling with addiction, since then his career has turned upwards in Turkey and he’s been sober for 3 years, clearly a player with experience, ability and a point to prove, get behind him. Goes without saying that people would get behind him if signed same with any player, in fact I think the Ewood crowd have often been very patient. Questioning it when linked doesn’t change that 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackburnEnd75 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Can Gibson afford to put the maximum allowable under FFP every season into the Club without even blinking like Venky's? And does he? Genuine question The differential in income between 22.5 k fans and 13k fans doesn't seem that great to me. Boro also had the privilege of being able to sell their second choice right back for around £15mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevidgeBlue Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Finlay McKenna said: Wouldn’t say much weaker that’s for sure You have to be kidding. Lenihan and JPVH v Hyam and Caulker. And all this crapola spoken in general about how the reason there'd been no signings was that we had to take a bit longer to ensure we got "the right sort of quality" in. Absolute joke. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay McKenna Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Think If we’re going to compare the squad we finished last summer with and then squad we finish this summer with we need to consider perspective, how how was JPVH perceived Sep 1st 2021? If I were to do a H2H squad comparison of how confident I’d be in the squad we finish this window with to how confident I was in the squad we finished last window with I’d expect it to overwhelmingly favour this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rover23 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said: Let's say we bring in Hyam and Caulker. Are we stronger than last year? Nope. Rothwell - Szmodics ❌ Nyambe/Zeefuik - Brittain ✅ Lenihan - Hyam 🤷♂️ Khadra - no replacement Van Hecke - Caulker ❌ B Johnson - Morton 🤷♂️ Davenport - Garrett/Wharton - probably better. Certainly no better, quite possibly worse. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevidgeBlue Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, BlackburnEnd75 said: Boro also had the privilege of being able to sell their second choice right back for around £15mil Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay McKenna Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, RevidgeBlue said: You have to be kidding. Lenihan and JPVH v Hyam and Caulker. And all this crapola spoken in general about how the reason there'd been no signings was that we had to take a bit longer to ensure we got "the right sort of quality" in. Absolute joke. I’d be more confident in Wharton, Ayala, Caulker, Hyam, Carter, Phillips as our defensive options than I would’ve been in Lenihan, Ayala, Van Hecke, Wharton, Carter this time last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davulsukur Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) We obviously need a lot more than what we will be getting this window but if we are signing Caulker and Hyam, we really need to be focusing on some pace upfront and some creativity. If BBD goes, a replacement for him as well. Edited August 26, 2022 by davulsukur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Good point. Armstrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, Finlay McKenna said: Hedges Dolan Markanday Brereton Brereton isn't a winger, he's a wide forward, same with Markanday I believe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay McKenna Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said: Brereton isn't a winger, he's a wide forward, same with Markanday I believe. But they both occupy the same areas of the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay McKenna Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Confidence now compared to confidence this time last season defence - more confident midfield - similarly confident attack - more confident 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevidgeBlue Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, rover23 said: Nope. Rothwell - Szmodics ❌ Nyambe/Zeefuik - Brittain ✅ Lenihan - Hyam 🤷♂️ Khadra - no replacement Van Hecke - Caulker ❌ B Johnson - Morton 🤷♂️ Davenport - Garrett/Wharton - probably better. Certainly no better, quite possibly worse. Rothwell - not replaced - Szmodics totally different type of player and worse anyway Nyambe - early days but possibly the only half decent bit of business In the window. No worse. Lenihan - not replaced - Coventry lad possibly a downgrade IF he comes which is probably doubtful anyway JPVH - not replaced - Caulker- you must be joking Khedra - not replaced Poveda - not replaced Johnson/Davenport - Morton might be a slight upgrade but none appear to be first choice picks Giles/Zeefuick - not replaced If we were deliberately trying to mess up the transfer window we couldn't be doing a better job. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevidgeBlue Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Finlay McKenna said: Confidence now compared to confidence this time last season defence - more confident midfield - similarly confident attack - more confident Wow. Just wow. I'm not going to make the obvious insinuation as I'll just earn myself another short ban 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 19 minutes ago, Finlay McKenna said: Depending on who the 3/4 incomings are I think we’ll probably finish the window just as strong as we finished last summer, don’t see any reason why we can’t compete for playoffs, all a test of how good JDT really is Isn't the idea to be stronger than the previous season? So if this squad doesn't finish 8th or higher, then it's down to the manager? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim mk2 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, Finlay McKenna said: I’d be more confident in Wharton, Ayala, Caulker, Hyam, Carter, Phillips as our defensive options than I would’ve been in Lenihan, Ayala, Van Hecke, Wharton, Carter this time last year April 1 was many months ago 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugayisgod Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said: Brereton isn't a winger, he's a wide forward, same with Markanday I believe. Didnt think we play with wingers. Not in the true sense of the word anyway. We have a flexible attacking front 4 which is what JDT says he wants Edited August 26, 2022 by Tugayisgod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay McKenna Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Rothwell - not replaced - Szmodics totally different type of player and worse anyway Nyambe - early days but possibly the only half decent bit of business In the window. No worse. Lenihan - not replaced - Coventry lad possibly a downgrade IF he comes which is probably doubtful anyway JPVH - not replaced - Caulker- you must be joking Khedra - not replaced Poveda - not replaced Johnson/Davenport - Morton might be a slight upgrade but none appear to be first choice picks Giles/Zeefuick - not replaced If we were deliberately trying to mess up the transfer window we couldn't be doing a better job. Rothwell - Dack Poveda - Hedges Khadra - Markanday Giles - Pickering zeefuik - all Round pointless addition The narrative we aren’t replacing players blatantly ignores internal replacements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mellelieu Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Wow. Just wow. I'm not going to make the obvious insinuation as I'll just earn myself another short ban Go on Rev. See if you can do it without mentioning how crap Gally is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankfan Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Not sure what to make of this Celta Vigo link for BBD, but surely having multiple teams submit bids is only going to increase the sales price. We all knew he was likely to be sold this summer and it's in the best interest to get the business done now as opposed to deadline day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevidgeBlue Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Gav said: Armstrong? Plus the financial jiggery poker with the training ground. Can't do it more than once but it should have freed up funds this time round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankfan Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, RevidgeBlue said: Plus the financial jiggery poker with the training ground. Can't do it more than once but it should have freed up funds this time round. As long as we dont have matched behind closes doors due to a global pandemic, we shouldn't have the need again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevidgeBlue Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Paul Mellelieu said: Go on Rev. See if you can do it without mentioning how crap Gally is. Does saying Gally's crap earn you a ban? There'd be no-one left on the board! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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