simongarnerisgod Posted September 2, 2022 Posted September 2, 2022 nothing against mowbray tbh,though he should have been let go 3 seasons ago when he decided to concentrate on topping his pension up and boring us all rigid with his strange tactics 4 Quote
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tomphil Posted September 2, 2022 Posted September 2, 2022 He deserves a good reception because he didn't really get a great send off the club managed to cock that up. Plus he'd spent a good few months unendearing himself to a lot of people. If he takes the points and jumps around in the dugout he should be banned from entering the area ever again. 1 Quote
Oldgregg86 Posted September 2, 2022 Posted September 2, 2022 I might give him a mild applause at the same time really wanting to put five past them and laugh in his face. It’s a strange emotion 😅 3 Quote
Upside Down Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 I think he deserves total indifference. Nothing more or less. He did well in the first couple of years but he never gave a toss about the club, the fans or anything other than lining his own pockets. He always thought we were totally beneath him but he didn't have a problem cashing in his payslip every week. I think his total lack of desire or ambition makes him a poor manager. As for all this talk about him being humble and down to earth, it is total bollocks. He has a massive ego, nothing is ever his fault and when he tries something that clearly doesn't work he just doubles down on it. He's a dolloper who wasted years of our time. 6 Quote
magicalmortensleftpeg Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Upside Down said: I think he deserves total indifference. Nothing more or less. He did well in the first couple of years but he never gave a toss about the club, the fans or anything other than lining his own pockets. He always thought we were totally beneath him but he didn't have a problem cashing in his payslip every week. I think his total lack of desire or ambition makes him a poor manager. As for all this talk about him being humble and down to earth, it is total bollocks. He has a massive ego, nothing is ever his fault and when he tries something that clearly doesn't work he just doubles down on it. He's a dolloper who wasted years of our time. Disagree. He outstayed his welcome and ran out of ideas but was a decent enough bloke and to say he never cared about the club is unfair. Edited September 3, 2022 by magicalmortensleftpeg 2 Quote
Gav Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Upside Down said: I think he deserves total indifference. Nothing more or less. He did well in the first couple of years but he never gave a toss about the club, the fans or anything other than lining his own pockets. He always thought we were totally beneath him but he didn't have a problem cashing in his payslip every week. I think his total lack of desire or ambition makes him a poor manager. As for all this talk about him being humble and down to earth, it is total bollocks. He has a massive ego, nothing is ever his fault and when he tries something that clearly doesn't work he just doubles down on it. He's a dolloper who wasted years of our time. What utter rubbish. Quote
Oldgregg86 Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Gav said: What utter rubbish. If he cared about the club and fans he would have gone to charlton to win the league. Man’s a fraud 8 Quote
jim mk2 Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Upside Down said: I think he deserves total indifference. Nothing more or less. He did well in the first couple of years but he never gave a toss about the club, the fans or anything other than lining his own pockets. He always thought we were totally beneath him but he didn't have a problem cashing in his payslip every week. I think his total lack of desire or ambition makes him a poor manager. As for all this talk about him being humble and down to earth, it is total bollocks. He has a massive ego, nothing is ever his fault and when he tries something that clearly doesn't work he just doubles down on it. He's a dolloper who wasted years of our time. Agree with most of this. He certainly felt Rovers were a bit beneath him and he was at the club far too long. Unlike on here Rovers fans at matches never really turned against him in numbers though even after some dire performances. In the end he did a fair job at Ewood but his time had come to a close. He was as probably as relieved to leave as many people were to see the back of him. Peterborough away at the end of last season was the final straw for me 2 Quote
magicalmortensleftpeg Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 34 minutes ago, Oldgregg86 said: If he cared about the club and fans he would have gone to charlton to win the league. Man’s a fraud That’s your argument? You think the Charlton game was more significant than the fact he had won us promotion?! Keep it in perspective. 1 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said: That’s your argument? You think the Charlton game was more significant than the fact he had won us promotion?! Keep it in perspective. It was indicative of his attitude. The man isn’t a winner. 6 Quote
Oldgregg86 Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 59 minutes ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said: That’s your argument? You think the Charlton game was more significant than the fact he had won us promotion?! Keep it in perspective. If you want your club to do the bare minimum and give up under a manager who thinks that’s acceptable than I don’t know what I’m arguing 2 Quote
blue_and_white Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 He deserves a hero's welcome. Took over when the club had been on a downward slide for 6 years. Fantastic effort to keep us up (going down on 51 points is ridiculous), promotion first time of asking, a steady improvement in the Championship except for one season (15th, 11th, 15th, 8th). And those last 2 seasons he did it on a meagre budget, signing players for under £1m/for free/on loan, when other teams in the Championship are getting parachute payments of now £80-90m (depending on how long they're in the PL) over 3 years. Its Rovers fans ridiculous expectation levels and the Big Sam situation all over again. Back then it wasn't good enough to have us as a solid mid-table PL team, "We're Blackburn Rovers, we've won the PL. Mid-table and long-ball football isn't good enough, get him out!". With Mowbray it wasn't good enough to be slowly edging us up the Championship, "We're Blackburn Rovers, we should be in the Premier League, get him out!". How about we're Blackburn Rovers, we generate about £16m per season in revenue (peanuts, absolute peanuts). Our wage bill is about £24m, our operating costs about £8m, we lose about £15m per season and are now £200m in debt. Maybe we aren't a PL club, maybe its not the manager's fault every time we fall short. But JDT will find out soon enough how he's not good enough either, and so will the next manager, and the next manager, and... Quote
Upside Down Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 1 minute ago, blue_and_white said: He deserves a hero's welcome. Took over when the club had been on a downward slide for 6 years. Fantastic effort to keep us up (going down on 51 points is ridiculous), promotion first time of asking, a steady improvement in the Championship except for one season (15th, 11th, 15th, 8th). And those last 2 seasons he did it on a meagre budget, signing players for under £1m/for free/on loan, when other teams in the Championship are getting parachute payments of now £80-90m (depending on how long they're in the PL) over 3 years. Its Rovers fans ridiculous expectation levels and the Big Sam situation all over again. Back then it wasn't good enough to have us as a solid mid-table PL team, "We're Blackburn Rovers, we've won the PL. Mid-table and long-ball football isn't good enough, get him out!". With Mowbray it wasn't good enough to be slowly edging us up the Championship, "We're Blackburn Rovers, we should be in the Premier League, get him out!". How about we're Blackburn Rovers, we generate about £16m per season in revenue (peanuts, absolute peanuts). Our wage bill is about £24m, our operating costs about £8m, we lose about £15m per season and are now £200m in debt. Maybe we aren't a PL club, maybe its not the manager's fault every time we fall short. But JDT will find out soon enough how he's not good enough either, and so will the next manager, and the next manager, and... 2 wins in 17 games is definitely the managers fault. 4 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 Let’s see how he goes on at Sunderland. 1 Quote
roverandout Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, blue_and_white said: He deserves a hero's welcome. Took over when the club had been on a downward slide for 6 years. Fantastic effort to keep us up (going down on 51 points is ridiculous), promotion first time of asking, a steady improvement in the Championship except for one season (15th, 11th, 15th, 8th). And those last 2 seasons he did it on a meagre budget, signing players for under £1m/for free/on loan, when other teams in the Championship are getting parachute payments of now £80-90m (depending on how long they're in the PL) over 3 years. Its Rovers fans ridiculous expectation levels and the Big Sam situation all over again. Back then it wasn't good enough to have us as a solid mid-table PL team, "We're Blackburn Rovers, we've won the PL. Mid-table and long-ball football isn't good enough, get him out!". With Mowbray it wasn't good enough to be slowly edging us up the Championship, "We're Blackburn Rovers, we should be in the Premier League, get him out!". How about we're Blackburn Rovers, we generate about £16m per season in revenue (peanuts, absolute peanuts). Our wage bill is about £24m, our operating costs about £8m, we lose about £15m per season and are now £200m in debt. Maybe we aren't a PL club, maybe its not the manager's fault every time we fall short. But JDT will find out soon enough how he's not good enough either, and so will the next manager, and the next manager, and... Kenny Dalglish greame souness deserve hero's welcomes. Don mackay. Does at a pinch. Mowbray deserves a light applause. Nothing more 3 Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 Hmmmmm ..... Breath in, out, in, out .... Good .... Now just ignore this fucking bollocks. The moaning git has gone. TTFFT Quote
Sweaty Gussets Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 35 minutes ago, roverandout said: Kenny Dalglish greame souness deserve hero's welcomes. Don mackay. Does at a pinch. Mowbray deserves a light applause. Nothing more 'Light applause' Could you grade all the managers so I know what to do when they return? 😉 2 Quote
Upside Down Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 Some deserve to be showered with praise. Some deserve to be showered with something else. 3 Quote
toogs Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 3 hours ago, jim mk2 said: Peterborough away at the end of last season was the final straw for me PNE away 3 seasons ago was the final straw for me. Appalling management before, during and after that game. Obvious where his “management” was going from that point onwards. 1 Quote
roverandout Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 56 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said: 'Light applause' Could you grade all the managers so I know what to do when they return? 😉 Dalglish standing ovation. Souness. Mexican wave. Mackay. 3 cheers. Ince. Shit thrown at him. Kean atomic bomb dropped on him. Mowbray. Light tap 1 Quote
Upside Down Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 I think the most appropriate response would be merely a shrug of the shoulders . 4 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted September 3, 2022 Moderation Lead Posted September 3, 2022 2 hours ago, blue_and_white said: He deserves a hero's welcome. Took over when the club had been on a downward slide for 6 years. Fantastic effort to keep us up (going down on 51 points is ridiculous), promotion first time of asking, a steady improvement in the Championship except for one season (15th, 11th, 15th, 8th). And those last 2 seasons he did it on a meagre budget, signing players for under £1m/for free/on loan, when other teams in the Championship are getting parachute payments of now £80-90m (depending on how long they're in the PL) over 3 years. Its Rovers fans ridiculous expectation levels and the Big Sam situation all over again. Back then it wasn't good enough to have us as a solid mid-table PL team, "We're Blackburn Rovers, we've won the PL. Mid-table and long-ball football isn't good enough, get him out!". With Mowbray it wasn't good enough to be slowly edging us up the Championship, "We're Blackburn Rovers, we should be in the Premier League, get him out’’ How about we're Blackburn Rovers, we generate about £16m per season in revenue (peanuts, absolute peanuts). Our wage bill is about £24m, our operating costs about £8m, we lose about £15m per season and are now £200m in debt. Maybe we aren't a PL club, maybe its not the manager's fault every time we fall short. But JDT will find out soon enough how he's not good enough either, and so will the next manager, and the next manager, and... If anyone thinks like that, they’re in the minority. The entitlement you’re suggesting is simply a lazy argument. I don’t know anyone that thinks like that, they just want better for their team than Mowbray was giving. An incredibly frustrating man. 5 Quote
47er Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 2 hours ago, blue_and_white said: He deserves a hero's welcome. Took over when the club had been on a downward slide for 6 years. Fantastic effort to keep us up (going down on 51 points is ridiculous), promotion first time of asking, a steady improvement in the Championship except for one season (15th, 11th, 15th, 8th). And those last 2 seasons he did it on a meagre budget, signing players for under £1m/for free/on loan, when other teams in the Championship are getting parachute payments of now £80-90m (depending on how long they're in the PL) over 3 years. Its Rovers fans ridiculous expectation levels and the Big Sam situation all over again. Back then it wasn't good enough to have us as a solid mid-table PL team, "We're Blackburn Rovers, we've won the PL. Mid-table and long-ball football isn't good enough, get him out!". With Mowbray it wasn't good enough to be slowly edging us up the Championship, "We're Blackburn Rovers, we should be in the Premier League, get him out!". How about we're Blackburn Rovers, we generate about £16m per season in revenue (peanuts, absolute peanuts). Our wage bill is about £24m, our operating costs about £8m, we lose about £15m per season and are now £200m in debt. Maybe we aren't a PL club, maybe its not the manager's fault every time we fall short. But JDT will find out soon enough how he's not good enough either, and so will the next manager, and the next manager, and... In 4 seasons he only got us in the top half once and never finished in the top 6. Average position 12th and we were. So glad he's gone----some of the most numbing performances ever seen. 2 Quote
SuperBrfc Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 2 hours ago, blue_and_white said: He deserves a hero's welcome. Took over when the club had been on a downward slide for 6 years. Fantastic effort to keep us up (going down on 51 points is ridiculous), promotion first time of asking, a steady improvement in the Championship except for one season (15th, 11th, 15th, 8th). And those last 2 seasons he did it on a meagre budget, signing players for under £1m/for free/on loan, when other teams in the Championship are getting parachute payments of now £80-90m (depending on how long they're in the PL) over 3 years. Its Rovers fans ridiculous expectation levels and the Big Sam situation all over again. Back then it wasn't good enough to have us as a solid mid-table PL team, "We're Blackburn Rovers, we've won the PL. Mid-table and long-ball football isn't good enough, get him out!". With Mowbray it wasn't good enough to be slowly edging us up the Championship, "We're Blackburn Rovers, we should be in the Premier League, get him out!". How about we're Blackburn Rovers, we generate about £16m per season in revenue (peanuts, absolute peanuts). Our wage bill is about £24m, our operating costs about £8m, we lose about £15m per season and are now £200m in debt. Maybe we aren't a PL club, maybe its not the manager's fault every time we fall short. But JDT will find out soon enough how he's not good enough either, and so will the next manager, and the next manager, and... Hero? This is the guy that looked down at our club and talked us down. He blew the best chance of promotion we had in years and just shrugged it off, yet you want to roll out the red carpet? If you want to embrace mediocrity and even applaud it, that's up to you. Some of us won't accept that for this Football Club. By the way, you should pay more attention to DunnFC over your gaffe. He's on the money with his posts and will be proven right in time. 3 Quote
Gav Posted September 3, 2022 Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, blue_and_white said: He deserves a hero's welcome. Took over when the club had been on a downward slide for 6 years. Fantastic effort to keep us up (going down on 51 points is ridiculous), promotion first time of asking, a steady improvement in the Championship except for one season (15th, 11th, 15th, 8th). And those last 2 seasons he did it on a meagre budget, signing players for under £1m/for free/on loan, when other teams in the Championship are getting parachute payments of now £80-90m (depending on how long they're in the PL) over 3 years. Its Rovers fans ridiculous expectation levels and the Big Sam situation all over again. Back then it wasn't good enough to have us as a solid mid-table PL team, "We're Blackburn Rovers, we've won the PL. Mid-table and long-ball football isn't good enough, get him out!". With Mowbray it wasn't good enough to be slowly edging us up the Championship, "We're Blackburn Rovers, we should be in the Premier League, get him out!". How about we're Blackburn Rovers, we generate about £16m per season in revenue (peanuts, absolute peanuts). Our wage bill is about £24m, our operating costs about £8m, we lose about £15m per season and are now £200m in debt. Maybe we aren't a PL club, maybe its not the manager's fault every time we fall short. But JDT will find out soon enough how he's not good enough either, and so will the next manager, and the next manager, and... Not sure about a hero, but agreed, a part for the Allardyce bit 👍 Edited September 3, 2022 by Gav Quote
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